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Lionda Nov 21st 2009 4:50 am

Re: Way too much time on my hands
 

Originally Posted by GrapeEater (Post 8114936)
No car insurance that bl**dy annoys me (wherever he / she is) - What if he injures himself, others or god forbid kills someone !! Irresponsible and Selfish !

My brother was in a serious accident with a drunk / not insured IDIOT.. wrote off both cars - no compo for Bro' as this idiot had no money either - I think he was ordered to pay £10 a month (which fizzled out) :thumbdown:

I agree with you entirely. However he is convinced he is doing no wrong as his insurance people take his money every year and assure him he is legal. Don't understand how when he doesn't have a tax disc and the car doesn't leave Spanish soil so can't possibly have an MOT. Unless you can have an ITV with British plates :unsure:

rugbymatt Nov 21st 2009 4:51 am

Re: Way too much time on my hands
 

Originally Posted by Lionda (Post 8115132)
I agree with you entirely. However he is convinced he is doing no wrong as his insurance people take his money every year and assure him he is legal. Don't understand how when he doesn't have a tax disc and the car doesn't leave Spanish soil so can't possibly have an MOT. Unless you can have an ITV with British plates :unsure:

Thats my point Li, without an up to date MOT your insurance is null and void anyway, so its all academic.

Lionda Nov 21st 2009 4:55 am

Re: Way too much time on my hands
 

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 8115136)
Thats my point Li, without an up to date MOT your insurance is null and void anyway, so its all academic.

Hi Matt :)

That's what I told him but he is such a good friend and such a really, really nice person I didn't press the issue. I just hope he will be ok :fingerscrossed:

bigglesworth Nov 21st 2009 4:58 am

Re: Way too much time on my hands
 
I hope the unlucky person he runs into is ok.

Lionda Nov 21st 2009 5:11 am

Re: Way too much time on my hands
 

Originally Posted by bigglesworth (Post 8115152)
I hope the unlucky person he runs into is ok.

I know what you are saying...I've said the same thing. Unfortunately there are a lot of people doing exactly the same thing and none of them seem to care. Bit annoying when we paid out a small fortune for rematriculation. I couldn't sleep at night if I thought I was doing anything illegal :ohmy:

shaggymon Nov 21st 2009 6:02 am

Re: Way too much time on my hands
 

Originally Posted by Lionda (Post 8115132)
I agree with you entirely. However he is convinced he is doing no wrong as his insurance people take his money every year and assure him he is legal. Don't understand how when he doesn't have a tax disc and the car doesn't leave Spanish soil so can't possibly have an MOT. Unless you can have an ITV with British plates :unsure:

You cannot get an ITV on a car on British plates. I just wish I could get a straight answer as to who to report these illegals to. Anyone? It drives me mad to see all these British cars merrily driving around all year round.

bigglesworth Nov 21st 2009 6:39 am

Re: Way too much time on my hands
 
I pull over.

A shiver runs up my spine every time I see an English number plate. The chances are they not only are not taxed, but also not ITVed

If not ITVed they may not be serviced.

If they do have insurance it will not pay out.

Will they have ANY tread on their tyres?

(Mind you, you could have shaved in the reflection of one of the microcars we passed this morning)

genegenie Nov 21st 2009 7:29 am

Re: Way too much time on my hands
 

Originally Posted by Lionda (Post 8115147)
Hi Matt :)

That's what I told him but he is such a good friend and such a really, really nice person I didn't press the issue. I just hope he will be ok :fingerscrossed:

But what about the poor person he may run into ?????????????

Lionda Nov 21st 2009 7:38 am

Re: Way too much time on my hands
 

Originally Posted by genegenie (Post 8115330)
But what about the poor person he may run into ?????????????

And it isn't just him......there are loads of British plated cars :thumbdown:

mikelincs Nov 21st 2009 7:42 am

Re: Way too much time on my hands
 

Originally Posted by Lionda (Post 8115337)
And it isn't just him......there are loads of British plated cars :thumbdown:

Those drivers would never have thought of driving in the UK without tax, MOT or Insurance, so why do it in Spain.

Bigger Jim Nov 21st 2009 7:54 am

Re: Way too much time on my hands
 

Originally Posted by bigglesworth (Post 8115284)
I pull over.

A shiver runs up my spine every time I see an English number plate. The chances are they not only are not taxed, but also not ITVed

If not ITVed they may not be serviced.

If they do have insurance it will not pay out.

Will they have ANY tread on their tyres?

(Mind you, you could have shaved in the reflection of one of the microcars we passed this morning)

I drive a 10 year old car with an English numberplate!

You've got me there because I've never been ITV'd and yet I've always been taxed.

Do I have to be ITV'd to get serviced?

Perhaps I should not be insured and then if I hit you you could claim off of the Spanish Insurance Board.

Are slicks not legal here anymore?

Was the close shave caused by you pulling over too fast in front of the microcar because you saw an English numberplate?

Think I'll stick to what I do and come over twice a year for three months, for the pedants just under, and hope I dont frighten you if you should see me coming.

Jim

missile Nov 21st 2009 9:18 am

Re: Way too much time on my hands
 

Originally Posted by shaggymon (Post 8115258)
I just wish I could get a straight answer as to who to report these illegals to. Anyone? .

If you feel so inclined, report to DVLA.

shaggymon Nov 21st 2009 8:07 pm

Re: Way too much time on my hands
 

Originally Posted by missile (Post 8115445)
If you feel so inclined, report to DVLA.

Unfortunately, they are not interested. Fortunately, the Spanish police are beginning to clamp down and are now enforcing the rules. 12 British cars were confiscated in my town in one day recently for having no MOT/tax/insurance :thumbsup: It would have been funny (if it had not been so pathetic) to hear the indignation and anger of some of the "victims" in a local bar shortly after that historic day. Of course, these people also had the inconvenience of not being able to drive home after their bucketful of ale - a pity as it appears that the drink driving laws don't apply to Brits either :huh:

Mitzyboy Nov 21st 2009 9:40 pm

Re: Way too much time on my hands
 

Originally Posted by shaggymon (Post 8115258)
You cannot get an ITV on a car on British plates.

I have heard of it being done ... although some say its not worth the paper it's printed on. The ITV station will be happy though, as they have your money


Originally Posted by Bigger Jim (Post 8115355)
Think I'll stick to what I do and come over twice a year for three months, for the pedants just under, and hope I dont frighten you if you should see me coming.
Jim

But you're not a resident here from what you say


Originally Posted by missile (Post 8115445)
If you feel so inclined, report to DVLA.

DVLA wont be interested probably as said, although the car should have been documented as permanently exported. Only thing you could do, if you could be bothered, I guess is to do a denuncia here

missile Nov 22nd 2009 3:05 am

Re: Way too much time on my hands
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 8116354)
DVLA wont be interested probably as said, although the car should have been documented as permanently exported.

Perhaps I should have explained :wub:

the car doesn't leave Spanish soil so can't possibly have an MOT.
nor road tax. Likely on SORN or the DVLA would issue fines to the driver. I am sure DVLA will be interested in reports of such a vehicle on the road.

See here . http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...cle/DG_4022073


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