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lic Nov 4th 2009 4:34 am

Verb Conjugation
 
Does anyone have any helpful hints with regards to this, either online or otherwise.
I can do the Hablar, hablo, habla, etc.

Thanks

rachelk Nov 4th 2009 4:47 am

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It's not a guide but it's a great site for looking them up

http://www.verbix.com/languages/spanish.shtml

Mitzyboy Nov 4th 2009 4:55 am

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Originally Posted by rachelk (Post 8070932)
It's not a guide but it's a great site for looking them up

http://www.verbix.com/languages/spanish.shtml

Useful, thanks

lunacrout Nov 4th 2009 5:20 am

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Originally Posted by rachelk (Post 8070932)
It's not a guide but it's a great site for looking them up

http://www.verbix.com/languages/spanish.shtml


That's excellent - thank you - I'll bookmark it:)

(I've really got to move beyond the present & past!)



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shaggymon Nov 4th 2009 5:46 am

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See also:

http://www.123teachme.com/spanish_verb_conjugation

bil Nov 4th 2009 5:56 am

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Which past?

Imperfect, perfect, preterit, pluperfect, progressive imperfect, perfect, preterit, pluperfect or what?

Then of course there's the infinitive perfect, the participle perfect, and you could use the immediate imperfect.......

Don't have a heart attack just yet. The most useful piece of advice I can give is to look for the patterns. Learn them and you don't have to learn the way every verb goes, just the bits that don't fit the patterns.

For example the future is the infinitive, with the endings of the present tense of haber on the end. There are only 11 or so irregular verbs in the future, two in the imperfect, and none in the conditional

and so it goes.

DebsyW Nov 4th 2009 6:10 am

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eh?

:unsure::blink::confused: :eek::eek:























Hiya Bil xx

JLFS Nov 4th 2009 6:21 am

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My advice would be to learn the verb HABER inside out and then use the ando-iendo and ado-ido ending for the verbs ti make up the different tenses

And in most forms of conversation try to use the ing-ando-iendo instead of the "yo como" form. Use the yo como etc form, only for habitual things. It does not work all the time, but it helps to make your self understood, as it does seem easier from an English speaking point of view.

Then the other way will come later when you are more fluent.

If this makes any sence to anyone, I will be flabbergasted.

Good luck

Mitzyboy Nov 4th 2009 6:25 am

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Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 8071162)
If this makes any sence to anyone, I will be flabbergasted.

Good luck

flabbergasto, dont you mean?

JLFS Nov 4th 2009 6:26 am

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This a good link which explains all about HABER to be used as have in English.

http://spanish.about.com/od/verbtens...er_perfect.htm

Cheers

JLFS Nov 4th 2009 6:27 am

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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 8071173)
flabbergasto, dont you mean?

I mean flabbergastado

Mitzyboy Nov 4th 2009 6:28 am

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Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 8071181)
I mean flabbergastado

indeedeee :)

bil Nov 4th 2009 6:44 am

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Originally Posted by DebsyW (Post 8071134)
eh?

:unsure::blink::confused: :eek::eek:








Hiya Bil xx





Hi sweetie.

The simple pasts are the most useful, ie the imperfect, perfect and the preterite.

To simplify, look at the verb to eat.

Imperfect. I used to eat at Joe's. (I did so habitually, but no longer eat there)

Perfect. I have eaten at Joe's. ( this may have been once, or several times, and I may well eat there in the future.)

Preterit. I ate at Joe's. (This refers to a single event in the past.)

The pret and perf can overlap just as you could say 'I ate at Joe's this morning', and it would signify exactly the same as saying 'I have eaten at Joe's this morning.'

What you couldn't say is 'I used to eat there this morning'.

See what I mean?

Progressive tenses are conjugated with estar. the progressive imperfect would be 'estaba comiendo....' I was eating when the bell rang. (Different from I was eating at Joe's lat week which would be the straightforward imperfect.)

Does that help?

JLFS Nov 4th 2009 6:59 am

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Originally Posted by bil (Post 8071219)
Hi sweetie.

The simple pasts are the most useful, ie the imperfect, perfect and the preterite.

To simplify, look at the verb to eat.

Imperfect. I used to eat at Joe's. (I did so habitually, but no longer eat there)

Perfect. I have eaten at Joe's. ( this may have been once, or several times, and I may well eat there in the future.)

Preterit. I ate at Joe's. (This refers to a single event in the past.)

The pret and perf can overlap just as you could say 'I ate at Joe's this morning', and it would signify exactly the same as saying 'I have eaten at Joe's this morning.'

What you couldn't say is 'I used to eat there this morning'.

See what I mean?

Progressive tenses are conjugated with estar. the progressive imperfect would be 'estaba comiendo....' I was eating when the bell rang. (Different from I was eating at Joe's lat week which would be the straightforward imperfect.)

Does that help?

Holy S**t, I am confused and I am bloody Spanish..............:lol:

lunacrout Nov 4th 2009 7:11 am

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Originally Posted by bil (Post 8071094)
Which past?

There are only 11 or so irregular verbs in the future, two in the imperfect, and none in the conditional

and so it goes.

Pheww - well that's a relief then :rofl:


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scampicat Nov 4th 2009 8:14 am

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Originally Posted by bil (Post 8071219)
Hi sweetie.

The simple pasts are the most useful, ie the imperfect, perfect and the preterite.

To simplify, look at the verb to eat.

Imperfect. I used to eat at Joe's. (I did so habitually, but no longer eat there)

Perfect. I have eaten at Joe's. ( this may have been once, or several times, and I may well eat there in the future.)

Preterit. I ate at Joe's. (This refers to a single event in the past.)

The pret and perf can overlap just as you could say 'I ate at Joe's this morning', and it would signify exactly the same as saying 'I have eaten at Joe's this morning.'

What you couldn't say is 'I used to eat there this morning'.

See what I mean?

Progressive tenses are conjugated with estar. the progressive imperfect would be 'estaba comiendo....' I was eating when the bell rang. (Different from I was eating at Joe's lat week which would be the straightforward imperfect.)

Does that help?

?QUE?

No wonder I can't get out of the present tense!

Veleta Nov 4th 2009 8:34 am

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Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 8071255)
Holy S**t, I am confused and I am bloody Spanish..............:lol:

No you're not. You're an imposter, remember?!

:lol:

DebsyW Nov 4th 2009 8:55 am

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I love Bil :wub::wub:

He can tell me about his imperfectos all night if he wants to ;)

DebsyW Nov 4th 2009 8:56 am

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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 8071185)
indeedeee :)

indeedeeeo

bil Nov 4th 2009 9:11 am

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Originally Posted by lunacrout (Post 8071289)
Pheww - well that's a relief then :rofl:


.

Hell yes. There are lots more in the present, and of course the preterite has a special block of irregulars. These have some endings like AR verbs and the rest like ER/IR

AR go Hable, hablaste, hablo, hablamos, hablastais hablaron
ER/IR go Vivi, viviste, vivio, vivimos, vivisteis, vivieron.

The mixers are estuve, estuviste, estuvo, estuvimos, estuvisteis, estuvieron.

Mixers come in pairs and trios.

Conducir, decir and traer are all the same,
Andar, estar and tener
ser and ir
dir and ver
caber and saber
Haber and poder
Querrer and poner
dar and ver

DebsyW Nov 4th 2009 9:53 am

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Bil :wub: Tell me more about Querrer





















































Sorry, Querido, but I can`t help it. You know I love you really ....... :wub:

JLFS Nov 4th 2009 7:18 pm

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Originally Posted by Veleta (Post 8071505)
No you're not. You're an imposter, remember?!

:lol:

Thank you for rminding me, I had forotten that fact,:lol::lol:

Although after reading Bils posts, I am beginning to think that I am an imposter,:rofl::rofl::rofl:

How are you doing?

agoreira Nov 4th 2009 7:24 pm

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I use this online dictionary, it has a conjugator at the top, kill two birds with one stone.
http://dictionary.reverso.net/spanish-english

bil Nov 4th 2009 8:14 pm

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Originally Posted by scampicat (Post 8071450)
?QUE?

No wonder I can't get out of the present tense!


Weeelll, I take your point. Viewed en masse it can be very daunting, but what I suggest is that you sit down and try and work out the patterns. Once they are learnt, the rest come easier.

Verbs are the scaffolding on which almost all sentances are constructed.

Stick to the regular trio, Hablar, vender and vivir, and take hablar first, as it is the simplest.

If you look, most simple tenses all have a stem, onto which the same endings go every time.

present ............. imperfect ............. conditional

hablo ............. hablaba ............. hablaria
habla s ............. hablaba s ............. hablaria s
habla ............. hablaba .......... hablaria
habla mos ............ hablaba mos ........... hablaria mos
habla is ............. hablaba is ............. hablaria is
habla n ............. hablaba n ............. hablaria n

see what I mean?

get one of those Spanish verbs 501, which give you the complete conjugation of all the verbs, and you can start to work out the patterns for yourself.

fionamw Nov 4th 2009 8:49 pm

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Yeeesss.... it´s just that if you've followed enough of what's been said to you to give a proper reply, and attempt to speak at anything like a reasonable speed, and are struggling with prepositions, adverbs, adjectives and pronouns, (just ignoring nouns for a mo!) you (by which I mean I:lol:) tend to flounder when it comes to remembering which verbs are irregular and if so in which way:eek:

Veleta Nov 4th 2009 9:09 pm

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Originally Posted by fionamw (Post 8072759)
Yeeesss.... it´s just that if you've followed enough of what's been said to you to give a proper reply, and attempt to speak at anything like a reasonable speed, and are struggling with prepositions, adverbs, adjectives and pronouns, (just ignoring nouns for a mo!) you (by which I mean I:lol:) tend to flounder when it comes to remembering which verbs are irregular and if so in which way:eek:

Then the answer is practise, practise and practise some more! Like the ad on the radio says, there's no miracle pill that you can take each morning to learn a new language. You've just got to study and practise at every opportunity and eventually, after a long hard slog you might get there!

agoreira Nov 4th 2009 9:37 pm

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And it all fails, you always have the option of getting it wrong! :) It's not a crime, don't let it put you off trying. It would be great to be word perfect, but most of us lesser mortals are never going to be word perfect, but if you can hold a conversation with some locals, that's a good start. And with time, it'll improve, just don't give up.

fionamw Nov 4th 2009 9:45 pm

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 8072829)
And it all fails, you always have the option of getting it wrong! :) It's not a crime, don't let it put you off trying. It would be great to be word perfect, but most of us lesser mortals are never going to be word perfect, but if you can hold a conversation with some locals, that's a good start. And with time, it'll improve, just don't give up.

I know, both right of course but if you speak naturally quite quickly as I do, and also tend to go back & forth within the same conversation (same sentence, if I'm honest - look at my posts. I post as I speak:rofl:) then trying to do that in a foreign language & retain some semblance of intelligence, well :eek::eek::o

steviedeluxe Nov 4th 2009 9:51 pm

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 8072829)
And it all fails, you always have the option of getting it wrong! :) It's not a crime, don't let it put you off trying. It would be great to be word perfect, but most of us lesser mortals are never going to be word perfect, but if you can hold a conversation with some locals, that's a good start. And with time, it'll improve, just don't give up.

Little by little..don't the locals say "poco a poco"?

Just be grateful you've got a fairly straightforward language to learn. You could be learning German!:eek:

JLFS Nov 4th 2009 11:29 pm

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 8072829)
And it all fails, you always have the option of getting it wrong! :) It's not a crime, don't let it put you off trying. It would be great to be word perfect, but most of us lesser mortals are never going to be word perfect, but if you can hold a conversation with some locals, that's a good start. And with time, it'll improve, just don't give up.

This comment is one of the most sensible things that has been said on the subject.
There is nothing wrong with making mistakes, as long as you can be fairly well understood and understand, that is OK for most folk.
I understand that Spanish grammer is a pain, but English is also a sod of a language to learn.

There is no need to be too anal about it, you cannot enjoy conversing with people if you are always trying to be "perfect", its kind of like trying to hold your belly in all the time. It can be managed for a photo, or when a grand entrance is needed, but to do it all day long :eek::eek: Stress, stress, stress.

fionamw Nov 5th 2009 1:19 am

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Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 8073036)
This comment is one of the most sensible things that has been said on the subject.
There is nothing wrong with making mistakes, as long as you can be fairly well understood and understand, that is OK for most folk.
I understand that Spanish grammer is a pain, but English is also a sod of a language to learn.

There is no need to be too anal about it, you cannot enjoy conversing with people if you are always trying to be "perfect", its kind of like trying to hold your belly in all the time. It can be managed for a photo, or when a grand entrance is needed, but to do it all day long :eek::eek: Stress, stress, stress.



Both sets of comments make sense, and I think a lot of us will relate to your belly analogy:p however and this is almost impossible to define, we're all probably singing from different hymn sheets in that our ability in Spanish is all different..... I might think I'm cr*p & someone else thinks I'm brilliant or vice versa (not that I'd ever say I'm brilliant, but you get my drift)... I sometimes see reference to not understanding certain things & think how simple it is, but equally find it awkward & a bit ignorant to be using the preterite of an ar verb as an example, waiting for the person to prompt me, if I struggle to some up with the right ending. Anyway, onwards & upwards. I had a long conversation about the teaching of multiplication in the Spanish system & English system yesterday evening - can't pretend I understood all of it, but hey ho!

bil Nov 5th 2009 1:37 am

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All good, valid points. You just have to go for it. It doesn't matter whether you get it right or not, you get the most points for just trying.

My advice would be to pick one tense at a time. and look at that. One would hope, over time to be able to speak more elegantly. One past tense is enough to survive, and for survival the future can be expressed using the present.

However after a while, you may well feel that saying 'I have done this and we have done that, have, have, have is a bit repetitive, and that's when you start looking at other ways to express yourself more elegantly.

It takes time, it takes practice and it takes study. You need to learn grammar. It's a vital skill if you are to make sense of what is being said to you.

fionamw Nov 5th 2009 1:45 am

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Originally Posted by bil (Post 8073294)
All good, valid points. You just have to go for it. It doesn't matter whether you get it right or not, you get the most points for just trying.

My advice would be to pick one tense at a time. and look at that. One would hope, over time to be able to speak more elegantly. One past tense is enough to survive, and for survival the future can be expressed using the present.

However after a while, you may well feel that saying 'I have done this and we have done that, have, have, have is a bit repetitive, and that's when you start looking at other ways to express yourself more elegantly.

It takes time, it takes practice and it takes study. You need to learn grammar. It's a vital skill if you are to make sense of what is being said to you.

Boy is that true (though it helps if you're not deep in campo Andalucia with fewer consonants in use than anyone else, of course:eek:). It took ages for me to identify when they were saying fue, and of course that's pretty fundamental. Somebody pointed out when we were talking about what I used to know as the imperfect in Latin (aba, ia, etc.) that if you can recognise that and any other verb endings it makes a lot of difference to your understanding of what's being said - you'll stand a chance of knowing if it's past present or future - even if you can't remember or haven't yet learned how to reply elegantly!

bil Nov 5th 2009 1:54 am

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Not to mention that they have a whole different vocab to anywhere else, of course!

JLFS Nov 5th 2009 4:19 am

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I have just been shopping for a few bits, including milk and eggs.

My wife has asked if some kind soul on this forum could explain the difference between, huevos and huevos cocidos..................:ohmy::ohmy:

agoreira Nov 5th 2009 4:33 am

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Originally Posted by fionamw (Post 8073318)
Boy is that true (though it helps if you're not deep in campo Andalucia with fewer consonants in use than anyone else, of course:eek:).

The first time I heard a mumbled "maomeno" (más o menos)I didn't have a clue. Then later when I adopted it and mumbled it in a language school, the profe said "You're starting to sound Andalucian now!:ohmy: Oh no, it's an awful accent! I speak via skype to a guy in northern Spain and he said the same.:thumbdown:

fionamw Nov 5th 2009 4:40 am

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 8073672)
The first time I heard a mumbled "maomeno" (más o menos)I didn't have a clue. Then later when I adopted it and mumbled it in a language school, the profe said "You're starting to sound Andalucian now!:ohmy: Oh no, it's an awful accent! I speak via skype to a guy in northern Spain and he said the same.:thumbdown:

I don't believe the profe said Andalucian.... Andalu, purleese!:sneaky:

agoreira Nov 5th 2009 5:08 am

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Originally Posted by fionamw (Post 8073686)
I don't believe the profe said Andalucian.... Andalu, purleese!:sneaky:

Nooooo! Andalú, con acento.

fionamw Nov 5th 2009 5:30 am

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 8073744)
Nooooo! Andalú, con acento.

I know, I know. What I don't know is where it is on the keyboard:lol:

JLFS Nov 5th 2009 5:54 am

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Originally Posted by fionamw (Post 8073784)
I know, I know. What I don't know is where it is on the keyboard:lol:

Like me then, dont let it worry you............whats a few accents between friends????:rofl::rofl:


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