Vaccine passports
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Re: Vaccine passports
"There are hundreds of reported deaths from the vax" - probably because the Bill Gates tracking chip in the vaccine had a faulty update/reboot or downloaded a virus when it clicked on a dodgy link in an email.
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The info is available online for anyone who cares to look for it.
Anyone who uses Telegram can access this channel: "Covid Vaccine Victims"
As of this morning there are 17419 subscribers to it. But no doubt they are all conspiracy theorists.
Anyone who uses Telegram can access this channel: "Covid Vaccine Victims"
As of this morning there are 17419 subscribers to it. But no doubt they are all conspiracy theorists.
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Re: Vaccine passports
This time last year, you remember when it was two weeks to flatten the curve, all the conspiracy theorists were predicting endless lockdowns and talking about "The Great Reset" and Davos and the WEF and "Build Back Better".
Then there were the real crazies that talked about mandatory vaccines and vaccine passports.
Governments around the world denied it all. Could never happen. Illegal. Against the Nuremberg code. Etc.
I suppose all those crazy conspiracy theorists will just have to invent some new ones now that all their old ones have come true and are no longer conspiracy theory but conspiracy fact.
But then you mention personality and intelligence and the Guardian in the same sentence and lose all credibility.
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Any death is a tradgedy for someone.
My mother has just died of cancer in the UK. Couldn't get a follow up scan because the wonderful NHS cancelled anything that wasn't CV related.
She is one of thousands.
A lot more than 1%.
But hey, if it saves just one life.....
Keep clapping comrade.
My mother has just died of cancer in the UK. Couldn't get a follow up scan because the wonderful NHS cancelled anything that wasn't CV related.
She is one of thousands.
A lot more than 1%.
But hey, if it saves just one life.....
Keep clapping comrade.
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It does mention hundreds of reported deaths, some of which occurred shortly after the deceased had received a Covid vaccination.
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Thousands of people have died with CV on their death certificates because they have tested positive for CV within a month of dying. Regardless of whether CV was the actual cause of death ("With" rather than "From"). This is well known but played down by governments.
Of the very many people that have died within a very short time of receiving a CV vax the cause of death is always one of the victim's underlying health problems. Never the vax.
Try finding official stats for deaths caused by the vax. You can't. Either there aren't any stats or they're suppressed.
These vaccinations are still in their experimental stage. How can they be rated as safe for pregnant women? Or used alongside other drugs?
This time last year many governments, the WHO, even the BBC and Dr Hillary were all stating that masks were totally useless against CV, and could even make the symptoms worse. Mask manufacturers even printed on their packaging that they would provide no protection against CV. This was FACT. TRUTH. ACCEPTED.
One year later the complete opposite is the truth and only conspiracy theorists believe otherwise.
Why did many governments suddenly ban existing treatments such as HCQ by saying they were dangerous? These treatments have been used safely for over 50 years worldwide. This was FACT. TRUTH. ACCEPTED.
But now we are told the complete opposite. Only conspiracy theorists believe otherwise.
The only acceptable truth is whatever the government is currently telling us and they've provided official fact checkers to prove it. Only conspiracy theorists believe otherwise.
We've always been at war with Eurasia. Or Eastasia. Or Oceania.
Of the very many people that have died within a very short time of receiving a CV vax the cause of death is always one of the victim's underlying health problems. Never the vax.
Try finding official stats for deaths caused by the vax. You can't. Either there aren't any stats or they're suppressed.
These vaccinations are still in their experimental stage. How can they be rated as safe for pregnant women? Or used alongside other drugs?
This time last year many governments, the WHO, even the BBC and Dr Hillary were all stating that masks were totally useless against CV, and could even make the symptoms worse. Mask manufacturers even printed on their packaging that they would provide no protection against CV. This was FACT. TRUTH. ACCEPTED.
One year later the complete opposite is the truth and only conspiracy theorists believe otherwise.
Why did many governments suddenly ban existing treatments such as HCQ by saying they were dangerous? These treatments have been used safely for over 50 years worldwide. This was FACT. TRUTH. ACCEPTED.
But now we are told the complete opposite. Only conspiracy theorists believe otherwise.
The only acceptable truth is whatever the government is currently telling us and they've provided official fact checkers to prove it. Only conspiracy theorists believe otherwise.
We've always been at war with Eurasia. Or Eastasia. Or Oceania.
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Re: Vaccine passports
"Try finding official stats for deaths caused by the vax. You can't. Either there aren't any stats or they're suppressed."
All too easy to say that a lack of statistics is a proof that it is true. Same with some unknown people/organisation suppressing the figures.
All too easy to say the info is there on the internet if you look for it, without showing us.
You've got it the wrong way round, it isn't up to us to prove the number of deaths, or lack of them - you came out with the statement so when challenged, you need to prove the assertion that - "There are hundreds of reported deaths from the vax".
And yet funnily enough you say in one hand there are hundred of reported deaths and then say one can't find statistics about it - so it's just anecdotal?
Name ten people who have died as a direct medically proven connection that the vaccine caused their deaths.
All too easy to say that a lack of statistics is a proof that it is true. Same with some unknown people/organisation suppressing the figures.
All too easy to say the info is there on the internet if you look for it, without showing us.
You've got it the wrong way round, it isn't up to us to prove the number of deaths, or lack of them - you came out with the statement so when challenged, you need to prove the assertion that - "There are hundreds of reported deaths from the vax".
And yet funnily enough you say in one hand there are hundred of reported deaths and then say one can't find statistics about it - so it's just anecdotal?
Name ten people who have died as a direct medically proven connection that the vaccine caused their deaths.
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Re: Vaccine passports
Yes, we're all conspiracy theorists when we don't agree with the relentless government propaganda that's pumped out every day.
This time last year, you remember when it was two weeks to flatten the curve, all the conspiracy theorists were predicting endless lockdowns and talking about "The Great Reset" and Davos and the WEF and "Build Back Better".
Then there were the real crazies that talked about mandatory vaccines and vaccine passports.
Governments around the world denied it all. Could never happen. Illegal. Against the Nuremberg code. Etc.
I suppose all those crazy conspiracy theorists will just have to invent some new ones now that all their old ones have come true and are no longer conspiracy theory but conspiracy fact.
But then you mention personality and intelligence and the Guardian in the same sentence and lose all credibility.
This time last year, you remember when it was two weeks to flatten the curve, all the conspiracy theorists were predicting endless lockdowns and talking about "The Great Reset" and Davos and the WEF and "Build Back Better".
Then there were the real crazies that talked about mandatory vaccines and vaccine passports.
Governments around the world denied it all. Could never happen. Illegal. Against the Nuremberg code. Etc.
I suppose all those crazy conspiracy theorists will just have to invent some new ones now that all their old ones have come true and are no longer conspiracy theory but conspiracy fact.
But then you mention personality and intelligence and the Guardian in the same sentence and lose all credibility.
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Re: Vaccine passports
My great grandfather was a member of the Knights Templar who kept the Holy Grail under the bed!!!
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Re: Vaccine passports
"Try finding official stats for deaths caused by the vax. You can't. Either there aren't any stats or they're suppressed."
All too easy to say that a lack of statistics is a proof that it is true. Same with some unknown people/organisation suppressing the figures.
All too easy to say the info is there on the internet if you look for it, without showing us.
You've got it the wrong way round, it isn't up to us to prove the number of deaths, or lack of them - you came out with the statement so when challenged, you need to prove the assertion that - "There are hundreds of reported deaths from the vax".
And yet funnily enough you say in one hand there are hundred of reported deaths and then say one can't find statistics about it - so it's just anecdotal?
Name ten people who have died as a direct medically proven connection that the vaccine caused their deaths.
All too easy to say that a lack of statistics is a proof that it is true. Same with some unknown people/organisation suppressing the figures.
All too easy to say the info is there on the internet if you look for it, without showing us.
You've got it the wrong way round, it isn't up to us to prove the number of deaths, or lack of them - you came out with the statement so when challenged, you need to prove the assertion that - "There are hundreds of reported deaths from the vax".
And yet funnily enough you say in one hand there are hundred of reported deaths and then say one can't find statistics about it - so it's just anecdotal?
Name ten people who have died as a direct medically proven connection that the vaccine caused their deaths.
And no, I don't personally know anyone who has died from the vax. Just as I don't know anyone who has died from CV.
I personally know people who have died as a consequence of lockdowns and shutting down the NHS though.
And it's not up to me to prove anything - do your own research, I don't care if you want to take part in human trials, because that is exactly what they are.
But don't forget that everyone from the person injecting you to the drug manufacturer has total and complete indemnity from any harm these experimental vaccines might do to you.
Here's a quick list of vax related death reports (a few of many) - None of these have been reported on MSM so that must mean they are all just conspiracies, right?
https://dailymemphian.com/article/19...nse#/questions
https://alaskawatchman.com/2021/02/0...ovid-vaccines/
https://theirishsentinel.com/2021/01...harma-wexford/
https://vaccineimpact.com/2021/cdc-6...rted-injuries/
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/c...d/2526566/?amp
https://www.preciouslife.com/news/96...vid19-vaccine/
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/fi...D-19)&DIED=Yes
https://greekcitytimes.com/2021/02/1...-covid-19-jab/
https://detroit.cbslocal.com/2021/02...covid-vaccine/
https://www.ibtimes.com/another-pers...accine-3129954
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Re: Vaccine passports
Just a few more unofficial death reports conspiracies....
https://catholiccitizens.org/issues/...orting-system/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/139569...vaccines-safe/
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/d...covid-vaccine/
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_ap...0171.html?v=ul
https://m.tribunnews.com/amp/regiona...-kiblat?page=2
https://stopnop.com.pl/smierc-covid/
https://www.gdnonline.com/Details/93...-complications
https://www.craterenews.it/2021/02/p...sua-scomparsa/
https://www.edexlive.com/news/2021/f...ent-18566.html
https://www.secondopianonews.it/news...-sanitari.html
https://fromrome.info/2021/01/27/ita...-heart-attack/
https://en.gaonconnection.com/19-hea...investigation/
https://www.jpost.com/health-science...ination-657428
https://catholiccitizens.org/issues/...orting-system/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/139569...vaccines-safe/
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/d...covid-vaccine/
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_ap...0171.html?v=ul
https://m.tribunnews.com/amp/regiona...-kiblat?page=2
https://stopnop.com.pl/smierc-covid/
https://www.gdnonline.com/Details/93...-complications
https://www.craterenews.it/2021/02/p...sua-scomparsa/
https://www.edexlive.com/news/2021/f...ent-18566.html
https://www.secondopianonews.it/news...-sanitari.html
https://fromrome.info/2021/01/27/ita...-heart-attack/
https://en.gaonconnection.com/19-hea...investigation/
https://www.jpost.com/health-science...ination-657428
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Re: Vaccine passports
I am tempted by a yearly subscription to the Alaska Watchman.
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Re: Vaccine passports
"And it's not up to me to prove anything .......- do your own research. "
That's the point isn't it. Not only do you feel you can make a contentious statement without backing it up, you don't think you should need to.
Why should I do your research for you to prove what you are saying?
Add on to that, you hide behind 'there are no stats so it must be true' thinking and I'm afraid on these points there is no reason at all, none whatsoever, why I should accept what you say is correct.
You are more or less saying, "I believe something to be true and I'm telling you it is true, but there is no data to support my claim because it is hidden from us and you need to do the research yourself to back up what I say."
Do you realise how unrealistic that sounds?
You'll be saying next, "It is true, take my word for it."
Not without you providing proof I won't (and your get out is you can't because the data is being subdued, but it's true! Honest! - and if you say the data can't be found, then who precisely is hiding it? Names and proof of that if you please as well).
That's the point isn't it. Not only do you feel you can make a contentious statement without backing it up, you don't think you should need to.
Why should I do your research for you to prove what you are saying?
Add on to that, you hide behind 'there are no stats so it must be true' thinking and I'm afraid on these points there is no reason at all, none whatsoever, why I should accept what you say is correct.
You are more or less saying, "I believe something to be true and I'm telling you it is true, but there is no data to support my claim because it is hidden from us and you need to do the research yourself to back up what I say."
Do you realise how unrealistic that sounds?
You'll be saying next, "It is true, take my word for it."
Not without you providing proof I won't (and your get out is you can't because the data is being subdued, but it's true! Honest! - and if you say the data can't be found, then who precisely is hiding it? Names and proof of that if you please as well).