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fionamw Apr 29th 2010 9:02 am

Useful words for car problems? eg tracking.....
 
Is there a particular book for these words/phrases or alternatively could we use this thread to share some? I need the tracking checked but the chap in the tyre place said direccion which translates as steering & the dictionary version was something different & I've just found yet another word, siguimiento... Help!

paintermujer Apr 29th 2010 10:08 am

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Originally Posted by fionamw (Post 8529895)
Is there a particular book for these words/phrases or alternatively could we use this thread to share some? I need the tracking checked but the chap in the tyre place said direccion which translates as steering & the dictionary version was something different & I've just found yet another word, siguimiento... Help!

Yes we have probs also with car repairs and the proper words.

OH says its alineacion de la direccion for tracking.

Good post-will be watching this one.

big wheels Apr 29th 2010 3:19 pm

Re: Useful words for car problems? eg tracking.....
 
Look in the free beer thread.


Car part terms for use at the garage

It's all there.


.

JLFS Apr 29th 2010 3:24 pm

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Originally Posted by paintermujer (Post 8530012)
Yes we have probs also with car repairs and the proper words.

OH says its alineacion de la direccion for tracking.

Good post-will be watching this one.


Tell your other half that he is right.................:thumbup::thumbup:

or alineamiento

savateur Apr 29th 2010 3:52 pm

Re: Useful words for car problems? eg tracking.....
 
Cojonudo in fact ! :lol:

JLFS Apr 29th 2010 3:55 pm

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Originally Posted by savateur (Post 8530774)
Cojonudo in fact ! :lol:

Thats my boy.............:rofl::thumbup:

Bigger Jim Apr 30th 2010 2:03 pm

Re: Useful words for car problems? eg tracking.....
 
Why don't you get Google to translate it?

eg: my car tracking requires alignment - mi seguimiento de coches requiere la alineación

translation.google.es

Not as personable as asking other members but quicker if you are in a hurry.

Jim

bfg69bug Apr 30th 2010 4:53 pm

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Originally Posted by Bigger Jim (Post 8533053)
Why don't you get Google to translate it?

eg: my car tracking requires alignment - mi seguimiento de coches requiere la alineación

translation.google.es

Not as personable as asking other members but quicker if you are in a hurry.

Jim

erm.. they might look at you funny.

"puedes hacer alinacion en los ruedas delantero porfa". would be more .. "street" ;)

agoreira Apr 30th 2010 5:13 pm

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Originally Posted by bfg69bug (Post 8533438)
erm.. they might look at you funny.

"puedes hacer alinacion en los ruedas delantero porfa". would be more .. "street" ;)

but very bad grammatically!:)

bfg69bug Apr 30th 2010 5:15 pm

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yep, no doubt about it :) but then, i live in the campo ;)

JLFS Apr 30th 2010 5:18 pm

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Here one that has got me laughing........my big end has gone..!!!!!!!...
:rofl::rofl:
...


mi gran final se ha ido (Google translate....

bfg69bug Apr 30th 2010 5:19 pm

Re: Useful words for car problems? eg tracking.....
 
:eek: :rofl:

agoreira Apr 30th 2010 5:31 pm

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Originally Posted by Bigger Jim (Post 8533053)
Why don't you get Google to translate it?

eg: my car tracking requires alignment - mi seguimiento de coches requiere la alineación

translation.google.es

Not as personable as asking other members but quicker if you are in a hurry.

Jim

Problem is speed counts for nought if it makes no sense!:) It's translated "tracking" as the following of something or somebody, and not car tracking. :confused:

bfg69bug Apr 30th 2010 5:38 pm

Re: Useful words for car problems? eg tracking.....
 
try www.reverso.net and instead of translate, use the dictionary :)

agoreira Apr 30th 2010 5:40 pm

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Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 8533493)
Here one that has got me laughing........my big end has gone..!!!!!!!...
:rofl::rofl:
...
mi gran final se ha ido (Google translate....

I saw one that someone had put up in good faith without reading right through and the Spanish original was "La Corrida de Cintas en Bicicleta de los lunes de Fiestas", and they had posted the google translation, " Cumshots tape and bicycle riding":rofl: Genuine!

JLFS Apr 30th 2010 5:42 pm

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Originally Posted by bfg69bug (Post 8533540)
try www.reverso.net and instead of translate, use the dictionary :)

It does not work very well, I put in tracking and it came up with rastreo,

Which is following a trail.

JLFS Apr 30th 2010 5:46 pm

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Originally Posted by bfg69bug (Post 8533540)
try www.reverso.net and instead of translate, use the dictionary :)

Just done echar un polvo and got................

To throw(add) a powder...........:rofl::rofl:


This is fun.

Although I must admit that I dont know the big end translation, could anyone give me a few Spanish lessons, I need to brush up.....:o:o

All I know about the big end is that, it strikes terror into the heart of the motorist involved when it breaks down.

agoreira Apr 30th 2010 5:48 pm

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Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 8533546)
It does not work very well, I put in tracking and it came up with rastreo,

Which is following a trail.

That's similar to the one above by google, instead of rastreo it gave seguimiento! The problem with these translators is that they are used because we don't know the Spanish, so we have to blindly accept what they give us, and don't realise it can be completely wrong. :)

JLFS Apr 30th 2010 5:51 pm

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 8533560)
That's similar to the one above by google, instead of rastreo it gave seguimiento! The problem with these translators is that they are used because we don't know the Spanish, so we have to blindly accept what they give us, and don't realise it can be completely wrong. :)

You must admit that is is very entertaining though. Its like being a kid and looking up rude words in the dictionary.

agoreira Apr 30th 2010 5:56 pm

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Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 8533558)
Just done echar un polvo and got................

To throw(add) a powder...........:rofl::rofl:

Try Word Magic Software, it gives the following,

e·char un pol·vo Verb

1. have sex, be engaged in sexual intercourse; Synonyms: fornicar, hacer el acto sexual, hacer el amor, hacer el sexo, involucrarse en una relación sexual, tener relaciones sexuales, follar, subirse al guayabo; Tener relaciones sexuales fuera del matrimonio, generalmente prohibidas por las religiones.

I find it one of the better freebies, especially for sayings, expressions etc.
http://www.wordmagicsoft.com/diction...un%20polvo.php

JLFS Apr 30th 2010 7:10 pm

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 8533574)
Try Word Magic Software, it gives the following,

e·char un pol·vo Verb

1. have sex, be engaged in sexual intercourse; Synonyms: fornicar, hacer el acto sexual, hacer el amor, hacer el sexo, involucrarse en una relación sexual, tener relaciones sexuales, follar, subirse al guayabo; Tener relaciones sexuales fuera del matrimonio, generalmente prohibidas por las religiones.

I find it one of the better freebies, especially for sayings, expressions etc.
http://www.wordmagicsoft.com/diction...un%20polvo.php

Fornicar, now that is a great sounding word in both languages:D

Bigger Jim Apr 30th 2010 7:30 pm

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 8533524)
Problem is speed counts for nought if it makes no sense!:) It's translated "tracking" as the following of something or somebody, and not car tracking. :confused:

Perhaps the problem is not the Spanish but the English. I can think of at least 3 things that the tracking may be referring to in a car.:D:D

Jim

Bigger Jim Apr 30th 2010 7:58 pm

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Originally Posted by fionamw (Post 8529895)
I need the tracking checked but the chap in the tyre place said direccion which translates as steering !

Problem is he was correct. A normal request would be "Can you check my steering or steering alignment".

Jim

agoreira Apr 30th 2010 7:58 pm

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Originally Posted by Bigger Jim (Post 8533747)
Perhaps the problem is not the Spanish but the English. I can think of at least 3 things that the tracking may be referring to in a car.:D:D

Jim

Exactly my point, the translation software that say google uses has no way of working that out, and it's highly likely you can end up with something that makes no sense.:) Whereas a human translator would not make that mistake, not if they are any good! :D

Bigger Jim Apr 30th 2010 8:30 pm

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 8533779)
Exactly my point, the translation software that say google uses has no way of working that out, and it's highly likely you can end up with something that makes no sense.:) Whereas a human translator would not make that mistake, not if they are any good! :D

The human translator would need to interact with you to ascertain exactly what you meant and would also require some technical background to ensure that both of you knew what you were talking about least you end up with the classic problem of "Garbage In Garbage Out".

One way round it is to use a specialist translator program and even they can fail if the user is non technical.:D:D

Jim

fionamw May 1st 2010 11:09 am

Re: Useful words for car problems? eg tracking.....
 

Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 8533524)
Problem is speed counts for nought if it makes no sense!:) It's translated "tracking" as the following of something or somebody, and not car tracking. :confused:


Originally Posted by Bigger Jim (Post 8533776)
Problem is he was correct. A normal request would be "Can you check my steering or steering alignment".
Jim


Originally Posted by Bigger Jim (Post 8533822)
and would also require some technical background to ensure that both of you knew what you were talking about least you end up with the classic problem of "Garbage In Garbage Out".
Jim

All of which kind of justifies my question; I know a bit but not enough about cars to be able define the difference between steering & tracking (if any, see above!) so wondered if he was right to use a word that meant steering when it's a problem with the tyres - only one, actually - wearing unevenly. I guess I have to assemble a list of possible words, say them all to him & leave him to work out I don't want him to literally reinvent the wheel, just check what needs doing & if he can do it! Good job I know him from having bought tyres there for years!

big wheels May 1st 2010 2:43 pm

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Originally Posted by fionamw (Post 8534769)
All of which kind of justifies my question; I know a bit but not enough about cars to be able define the difference between steering & tracking (if any, see above!) so wondered if he was right to use a word that meant steering when it's a problem with the tyres - only one, actually - wearing unevenly. I guess I have to assemble a list of possible words, say them all to him & leave him to work out I don't want him to literally reinvent the wheel, just check what needs doing & if he can do it! Good job I know him from having bought tyres there for years!

Go back to post 3 in this thread. The glossary of all terms needed at the garage with translations into Spanish was posted by me and placed in the "free beer" section around two years ago. :rolleyes:;)

JLFS May 1st 2010 3:37 pm

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Originally Posted by big wheels (Post 8535088)
Go back to post 3 in this thread. The glossary of all terms needed at the garage with translations into Spanish was posted by me and placed in the "free beer" section around two years ago. :rolleyes:;)


It is a great list, and a good help to many, but would you believe the OP asked about Tracking, and it is not on the list.;)

Bigger Jim May 1st 2010 3:41 pm

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Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 8535154)
It is a great list, and a good help to many, but would you believe the OP asked about Tracking, and it is not on the list.;)

Not surprising as it is targeted at mechanics and Technicians and not at run of the mill motorists.

Just done the same exercise with the same word.

Jim

Bigger Jim May 1st 2010 3:49 pm

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Originally Posted by fionamw (Post 8534769)
Good job I know him from having bought tyres there for years!

So presumably he has done the tracking on your car before so why not just ask him?

If he hasn't it probably needs it and is relatively cheap and is often done while you wait.

Jim

JLFS May 1st 2010 4:01 pm

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Originally Posted by Bigger Jim (Post 8535164)
Not surprising as it is targeted at mechanics and Technicians and not at run of the mill motorists.

Just done the same exercise with the same word.

Jim


Are you saying that it is aimed at technicians and such, because a lot of the words there are not exactly "technical" terms pertaining only to car mechanics.

Words like, interior, rust, and loads of others are just normal words which a run of the mill motorist would know.

So what happend to tracking, if it is for the "people in the know"?

jdr May 1st 2010 4:39 pm

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Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 8535187)
Are you saying that it is aimed at technicians and such, because a lot of the words there are not exactly "technical" terms pertaining only to car mechanics.

Words like, interior, rust, and loads of others are just normal words which a run of the mill motorist would know.

So what happend to tracking, if it is for the "people in the know"?

The list is probably for do it yourselfers and tracking is slightly technical
cos a shade out and you knacker the tyres amongst other things, so they don`t list it ?

big wheels May 1st 2010 4:41 pm

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Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 8535154)
It is a great list, and a good help to many, but would you believe the OP asked about Tracking, and it is not on the list.;)

Look under Steering/suspension.

alignment (tracking)= alineación

check = comprobar/verificar

simple.

jdr May 1st 2010 4:42 pm

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Originally Posted by big wheels (Post 8535088)
Go back to post 3 in this thread. The glossary of all terms needed at the garage with translations into Spanish was posted by me and placed in the "free beer" section around two years ago. :rolleyes:;)

They still don`t look in there for stuff despite me changing the title to something i thought would attract people. :D

JLFS May 1st 2010 4:47 pm

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Originally Posted by big wheels (Post 8535241)
Look under Steering/suspension.

alignment (tracking)= alineación

check = comprobar/verificar

simple.

I did not need to look up the answer, I already knew it. I just expected it to be under "t" for Tracking.

It is a very usefull tool, though.

Bigger Jim May 1st 2010 7:44 pm

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Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 8535187)
Are you saying that it is aimed at technicians and such, because a lot of the words there are not exactly "technical" terms pertaining only to car mechanics.

No because that's what it says it's for!!!

The translations contained in this glossary represent most, if not all, of the terms a technician may encounter on the associated bilingual certification exams. The “Preferred Spanish” translation for each English term or phrase is intended to represent a translation that should be correctly understood by any knowledgeable Spanish-speaking automobile technician, regardless of where their Spanish originates. Given the variations in Spanish from country to country, and region to region, creating a universally understood technical document in Spanish is a substantial challenge.

Jim

missile May 2nd 2010 4:48 am

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Originally Posted by fionamw (Post 8534769)
All of which kind of justifies my question; I know a bit but not enough about cars to be able define the difference between steering & tracking (if any, see above!) so wondered if he was right to use a word that meant steering when it's a problem with the tyres - only one, actually - wearing unevenly. I guess I have to assemble a list of possible words, say them all to him & leave him to work out I don't want him to literally reinvent the wheel, just check what needs doing & if he can do it! Good job I know him from having bought tyres there for years!

IMHO, badly aligned tracking would not cause uneven wear on only one (front?) trye.

With all due respect I would suggest a little knowledge can be dangerous. I would suggest you should tell your trained mechanic what your problem is and let him diagnose the cause. Pointing at the worn tyre and "es no bien" or "¿por qué?" would suffice.


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