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Old Feb 9th 2018 | 9:09 pm
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Originally Posted by Bridie55
Because you don't live there...
If it was just about living there then non uk citizens living there would get the vote on all matters. I will leave it that i disagree with your point of view.
 
Old Feb 9th 2018 | 9:09 pm
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Originally Posted by mikemike
I have no voting rights anywhere.

I make fiscal contributions to the Uk treasury and I firmly believe that taxation without representation is unacceptable, wars have been fought over this.

Stop taxing me in the UK, then I would accept no to a vote, not until.
Exactly the point i am making Mike
 
Old Feb 9th 2018 | 9:40 pm
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I think it is totally amazing well hypocritical really that the west preaches democracy and in fact storms around the world fighting wars in the name of it and yet does not practise it.
Currently, many expats have no voting rights anywhere despite the fact they are legal tax paying residents.
 
Old Feb 9th 2018 | 11:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Bridie55
The vote was a UK decision for people who live in the UK. If you don't live in the UK you don't have that vote.
What utter rubbish I am a British citizen born in U.K.
from many generations
of Brits.Traced back to 1750 Gloucestershire. I have a British passport and have held one continuously since I was 13 (70yrs). I served Queen and country all over the world for 25yrs. I pay taxes in U.K. and Spain. I have children and grandchildren in the British Isles. Don’t tell me I have no interest and cannot vote. No Taxation without Representation the bedrock of democracy since the American Declaration of Independence.
 
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Originally Posted by EsuriJohn
What utter rubbish I am a British citizen born in U.K.
from many generations
of Brits.Traced back to 1750 Gloucestershire. I have a British passport and have held one continuously since I was 13 (70yrs). I served Queen and country all over the world for 25yrs. I pay taxes in U.K. and Spain. I have children and grandchildren in the British Isles. Don’t tell me I have no interest and cannot vote. No Taxation without Representation the bedrock of democracy since the American Declaration of Independence.
 
Old Feb 10th 2018 | 12:59 am
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Originally Posted by Bridie55
The vote was a UK decision for people who live in the UK. If you don't live in the UK you don't have that vote.
Hmm, seems most don't agree, but we don't all live in the UK so that doesn't count, eh?

So, do you have another more balanced, reasonable and sensible argument for ex pats not having a vote or are you just another 'tap room table slammer?'
 
Old Feb 10th 2018 | 3:28 am
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Originally Posted by EsuriJohn
What utter rubbish I am a British citizen born in U.K.
from many generations
of Brits.Traced back to 1750 Gloucestershire. I have a British passport and have held one continuously since I was 13 (70yrs). I served Queen and country all over the world for 25yrs. I pay taxes in U.K. and Spain. I have children and grandchildren in the British Isles. Don’t tell me I have no interest and cannot vote. No Taxation without Representation the bedrock of democracy since the American Declaration of Independence.
Do you think an American on a work permit in the UK should have had a vote in the EU referendum? How about a Vietnamese on a 2-year work permit, should they be able to vote in a GE?
 
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Originally Posted by Cape Blue
Do you think an American on a work permit in the UK should have had a vote in the EU referendum? How about a Vietnamese on a 2-year work permit, should they be able to vote in a GE?
Would they happen to be British Citizens ?
 
Old Feb 10th 2018 | 3:32 am
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Oh dear, the resident troll has turned up!
 
Old Feb 10th 2018 | 3:36 am
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Originally Posted by bobd22
Would they happen to be British Citizens ?
Esuri is saying "no taxation without representation" - if an American is on a work visa in the UK and paying tax Esuri appears to be saying they should be able to vote. Ditto a Romanian in the UK.

I am pointing-out the taxation/representation statement has some holes.
 
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Oh dear, the resident troll has turned up!
Oh look, the resident stalker has turned up.
 
Old Feb 10th 2018 | 4:10 am
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I believe the site is geared for British Expats i.e. British Citizens that live or plan to live outside the UK. However often expats have to continue to pay income tax on such as government pensions. That is the point I am making.
 
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Originally Posted by bobd22
I believe the site is geared for British Expats i.e. British Citizens that live or plan to live outside the UK. However often expats have to continue to pay income tax on such as government pensions. That is the point I am making.
I know, but the "no taxation without representation" phrase used by Esuri is an American one and I was pointing-out the obvious holes in it even in the UK - lots of people pay tax in lots of countries without (full) representation.
 
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The principle was established in the English Bill of Rights, 1689.
 
Old Feb 11th 2018 | 1:25 am
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If you move full time overseas then you have no right to vote to a UK vote IMHO.
 


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