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University in Spain?
I'm currently living with my brother right now in Marbella, been here a few weeks and I just found out that Marbella opened up a University last year.
I'm really interested in studying there, but I can't afford the fees right off the bat right now, as a EU Citizen does anyone know if I am allowed Financial Aid, back in the UK I would be granted a grant or a loan, is the same for Spain or not? I emailed the University but they didn't respond to the question. All I know is that it is a Private University. Can anyone help? |
Re: University in Spain?
Originally Posted by p-balenciaga
(Post 8369546)
I'm currently living with my brother right now in Marbella, been here a few weeks and I just found out that Marbella opened up a University last year.
I'm really interested in studying there, but I can't afford the fees right off the bat right now, as a EU Citizen does anyone know if I am allowed Financial Aid, back in the UK I would be granted a grant or a loan, is the same for Spain or not? I emailed the University but they didn't respond to the question. All I know is that it is a Private University. Can anyone help? |
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So this is a private university in Marbella with classes in English? Don't waste your money here. I doubt this place has any sort of academic accredition or anything like that. It looks like it is purely designed to extract money from unsuspecting foreign students, i.e. rich Arabs and the like who don't have the qualifications to get into proper universities but want to say that they studied abroad.
If you want to study, the University in Malaga has a good reputation. It will cost you a lot less and you will get a decent education. |
Re: University in Spain?
Originally Posted by AdrianTO
(Post 8370121)
So this is a private university in Marbella with classes in English? Don't waste your money here. I doubt this place has any sort of academic accredition or anything like that. It looks like it is purely designed to extract money from unsuspecting foreign students, i.e. rich Arabs and the like who don't have the qualifications to get into proper universities but want to say that they studied abroad.
If you want to study, the University in Malaga has a good reputation. It will cost you a lot less and you will get a decent education. theough it seems there might be opportunities for sponsorship |
Re: University in Spain?
Originally Posted by lynnxa
(Post 8370128)
my thoughts too
theough it seems there might be opportunities for sponsorship They have used a $30 template that you can buy off the internet to create their website. That about says it all. |
Re: University in Spain?
Originally Posted by AdrianTO
(Post 8370121)
If you want to study, the University in Malaga has a good reputation..
http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/6283...sidades/mundo/ |
Re: University in Spain?
Originally Posted by agoreira
(Post 8370331)
Locally maybe. In world rankings the first Spanish university appears at position 150, Sevilla.
http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/6283...sidades/mundo/ But the teaching is pretty good and a degree from a good uni in Spain is roughly worth the same to employers as a degree from a good uni in the UK. Plus going to a Spanish uni is much much cheaper than going to one in the UK. Of course you will need to speak fluent Spanish and the downside is a degree is 5 years in Spain rather than 3 years in the UK. The Spanish people I know who did half their degree in Spain and the other half in the Uk said the UK courses were way easier, in Spain you have a lot of hours of classes and they make you learn and remember a lot for the exams. Of course you'll need to meet the entry criteria. This depends on how popular the course is. The most popular courses have the highest entry criteria. Regarding the private uni in Marbella, I wouldnt waste my time and money on that. |
Re: University in Spain?
Originally Posted by p-balenciaga
(Post 8369546)
I'm currently living with my brother right now in Marbella, been here a few weeks and I just found out that Marbella opened up a University last year.
I'm really interested in studying there, but I can't afford the fees right off the bat right now, as a EU Citizen does anyone know if I am allowed Financial Aid, back in the UK I would be granted a grant or a loan, is the same for Spain or not? I emailed the University but they didn't respond to the question. All I know is that it is a Private University. Can anyone help? |
Re: University in Spain?
Originally Posted by cricketman
(Post 8370520)
The Spanish people I know who did half their degree in Spain and the other half in the Uk said the UK courses were way easier, in Spain you have a lot of hours of classes and they make you learn and remember a lot for the exams. |
Re: University in Spain?
Originally Posted by agoreira
(Post 8370598)
Fair do's, you never disappoint! :) I had money on you to answer as such.
In Spain, for some courses, around 30% of students fail their year. For example an engineering degree is 7 years long, but many students take 10 years to complete it because it is very difficult to complete the course and not fail a year or two. In the UK hardly anyone fails their year, they just get a low grade instead. It's nothing to be proud of. A UK degree from a red brick uni is easier, cheaper and many ways better. But thanks to the current UK government, it also can be very expensive. Employers will recognise a degree from most unis in Europe as long as it was in a serious subject. In fact, if you are British and you get a Spanish degree, British employers would be very impressed as it shows you are intelligent, adventurous and dont always take the easy option. |
Re: University in Spain?
I spent a year at sevilla uni and wasn't impressed. Though I had a great time:D
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Re: University in Spain?
Originally Posted by jackytoo
(Post 8370872)
I spent a year at sevilla uni and wasn't impressed. Though I had a great time:D
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Re: University in Spain?
Generally speaking the private universities are full of students who failed their selectividad exam and were refused entry into the public universities.
The only entry requirement for a private university is money.;) |
Re: University in Spain?
Originally Posted by Veleta
(Post 8371096)
Why only a year? Which courses are only 1 year long?
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Re: University in Spain?
Originally Posted by lynnxa
(Post 8371105)
an exchange year?
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Re: University in Spain?
Originally Posted by Veleta
(Post 8371096)
Why only a year? Which courses are only 1 year long?
All lectures were given in Spanish (to be expected) and work and exams marked with no allowance given for Spanish not being the main language of the entrant. Unless the OP is really fluent in Spanish (and I do mean fluent, not just able to carry on a conversation, read the newspaper etc), he might do better IMHO to take a degree course at an English university (even if he chooses to do a degree incorporating some element of Spanish) than find his marks reflect the fact that his lexicon is almost certainly below that of all his Spanish classmates? |
Re: University in Spain?
Originally Posted by noelrosie
(Post 8371270)
My daughter is doing a degree in Hispanic Studies with English at Kings College in London. It is a 4 year degree and she spent last year at University in Sevilla - a 'year abroad'. In common with Jackytoo she was distinctly unimpressed by her experience at Sevilla University and felt it compared very unfavourably with Kings College (which in the UK is one of the Russell Group Universities, known for the high standards of their degree courses).
All lectures were given in Spanish (to be expected) and work and exams marked with no allowance given for Spanish not being the main language of the entrant. Unless the OP is really fluent in Spanish (and I do mean fluent, not just able to carry on a conversation, read the newspaper etc), he might do better IMHO to take a degree course at an English university (even if he chooses to do a degree incorporating some element of Spanish) than find his marks reflect the fact that his lexicon is almost certainly below that of all his Spanish classmates? |
Re: University in Spain?
Originally Posted by cricketman
(Post 8371708)
To be fair, the Spanish students who do an erasmus year in the UK take the same courses and exams as the British students in English for that year. So what's the difference?
I believe, based on my daughter's experience, that it would be more difficult for a non-native speaker to gain a good degree from a Spanish University. He would not be starting from a level playing-field. My daughter has obtained significantly higher marks for the years of study she has completed in the UK (as opposed to that one 'year abroad') and even in UK at least 50% of her course is in Spanish and marked by Spanish tutors! |
Re: University in Spain?
Originally Posted by noelrosie
(Post 8371757)
I don't see that there is any difference, and that is not the point I was trying to make.
I believe, based on my daughter's experience, that it would be more difficult for a non-native speaker to gain a good degree from a Spanish University. He would not be starting from a level playing-field. My daughter has obtained significantly higher marks for the years of study she has completed in the UK (as opposed to that one 'year abroad') and even in UK at least 50% of her course is in Spanish and marked by Spanish tutors! On the positive side, if a non-native Spanish speaker manages to get a good degree in Spain it is quite an achievement and will look good for employees in both the UK and Spain. |
Re: University in Spain?
Originally Posted by cricketman
(Post 8370770)
What do you want me to do, lie?
there are about 18 British Universities and absolutely no Spanish universities. Now that tells me that generally UK universities are much higher regarded than Spanish ones. Maybe not by you, but then the experts have probably got it all wrong anyway. |
Re: University in Spain?
Originally Posted by agoreira
(Post 8373552)
Just try and be objective. You're so biased it isn't true, but if I look at an independent, impartial list of top 100 universities, http://www.topuniversities.com/unive...s/2009/results
there are about 18 British Universities and absolutely no Spanish universities. Now that tells me that generally UK universities are much higher regarded than Spanish ones. Maybe not by you, but then the experts have probably got it all wrong anyway. I already agreed that Spanish unis are not well regarded internationally. Mainly down to the poor research funding and too many students to teacher ratio. The only points I was making are 1. Spanish degrees are difficult and 2. If you are British a Spanish degree would look good to a UK employer because it is something out of the ordinary and shows you've got initiative and are intelligent Chr**t, I spent 6 months out after my degree to come to Spain and learn Spanish and that helped me no-end to get a job in London. It was a major talking point at interviews. And the employers didnt care whether I spoke Spanish they just like young people who have a get-up-and-go attitude. Maybe I should add that some people I know with Spanish degrees have been given excellent jobs in the UK, Spain and the US earning 50k plus. While others are shop assistents at Springfield. So make of that whatever you like. |
Re: University in Spain?
Noelrosie wasn't saying that her daughter's course in Spain was more difficult than the UK part. She pointed out that is is difficult being on the same course as a native speaker with no support for people from other countries. I found a lack of resources too. When the Spanish came to the UK on the same course they had mentors and a gradual introduction into a different system and access to more resources.
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Re: University in Spain?
Originally Posted by jackytoo
(Post 8373691)
Noelrosie wasn't saying that her daughter's course in Spain was more difficult than the UK part. She pointed out that is is difficult being on the same course as a native speaker with no support for people from other countries. I found a lack of resources too. When the Spanish came to the UK on the same course they had mentors and a gradual introduction into a different system and access to more resources.
I believe different unis in Spain have a different approach. Some give foreigners on the erasmus year completely different courses to the Spanish students - and even some in English as they recognise that few will have a high-enough level of Spanish. Plus, there is a difference in expectations as you say. In Spanish essays you should never write your opinion but stick to your sources rigidly, while in the UK you have more freedom to give your own theories and opinions. |
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Excuse me for interrupting an excellent batting back and forth... just to add that I cannot get my UK degree homologated in Spain. This may all have changed under the new Bologna principles (it was supposed to, but I don't know if in reality it has), but it is certainly important if you want to stay in Spain and work in public sector.
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Re: University in Spain?
Back to the OPs original question for a moment,
Apparently a Consulting company and the "so called" Marbella University are located at the same address of Centro Plaza, Nueva Andalucia Marbella. I dont think either is particularly successful at the moment as it seems they have to share an office. So if its the same one, I dont think its a university in the way you're thinking, more of a money making operation????? Jo xxxx |
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Jo I think the same. Don't know if it's the same outfit but one opened about 8 years ago too in a different part of Marbella and sunk without a trace! May as well buy a degree online as waste time with them.:)
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From the Marbella Uni site: A word from the president
In Somnis Veritas – The Truth is in Dreams: “During the last 35 years I have had more than 10,000 dreams about the state of humanity and the earth, the hidden realities in politics and economy, the reality behind the façades of religions and spiritual institutions, as well as about the future development of humanity. I have also had more than 2,000 dreams about God, the Spirit, the transcendental world of the souls, the genuine and vivid source of the true religion and spirituality, the authentic spiritual and religious vocations, all the Archetypes of the Soul with their inner processes up to the highest aim given since ever and forever, and the collective unconscious world – much more dreams than one can find in all Holy Books together. Therefore, you can be sure, I have the knowledge, the sources, the tools, the personality quality, and especially the corresponding vocation to lead humanity towards a good future, to prepare students for the future challenges as leaders of humans, and to give the right advice to the leaders in politics, religion, economy, and education!†Blimey! |
Re: University in Spain?
Sounds like another marbella scam:rofl:
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Re: University in Spain?
Timeshare Doctorate Degrees. ;);)
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Re: University in Spain?
I have reasons to believe that the same chap who ran a Spanish forum that recently started trying to charge posters and convert them to a strange cult type thing also co-runs the Marbella university!!!!!!!
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=659794 Jo xxx |
Re: University in Spain?
Originally Posted by rachelk
(Post 8455381)
From the Marbella Uni site: A word from the president
Ok, so a good quote,but from a university? Blimey! |
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