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Fredbargate May 1st 2011 4:52 pm

Re: The United Nations.
 

Originally Posted by HBG (Post 9336298)
Donald Trump being put forward for the presidency of the US.

The people of the US won't vote for that clown, will they?


They would vote for Mickey Mouse if he stood for president, and he would probably be the best one they ever had.

bil May 1st 2011 5:17 pm

Re: The United Nations.
 

Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 9336376)
They would vote for Mickey Mouse if he stood for president, and he would probably be the best one they ever had.

After Bill Clinton, yeah.

licinius May 1st 2011 8:11 pm

Re: The United Nations.
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 9335868)
In any event a mere drop in the ocean compared with his own attrocities

By that reasoning it's ok to kill tens of thousands of Americans in revenge for the attrocities committed by George Bush.

jackytoo May 1st 2011 9:06 pm

Re: The United Nations.
 
The old saying comes to mind "Two wrongs don't make a right"

Dick Dasterdly May 1st 2011 9:45 pm

Re: The United Nations.
 

Originally Posted by licinius (Post 9336697)
By that reasoning it's ok to kill tens of thousands of Americans in revenge for the attrocities committed by George Bush.

Sorry,but I find your sense of logic somewhat confusing.:confused:

I don't recall saying that it would be ok to kill tens of thousands of Libyans because of Gadaffis attocities.

On the contrary the general idea of the present operation is supposed to be to save Libyan lives, however dropping a big one on top of Gadaffis head may also assist in that aim, regardless of whether or not it was on the agenda.

licinius May 2nd 2011 7:05 am

Re: The United Nations.
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 9336831)
On the contrary the general idea of the present operation is supposed to be to save Libyan lives, however dropping a big one on top of Gadaffis head may also assist in that aim, regardless of whether or not it was on the agenda.

Have you learned nothing from Iraq?

Dick Dasterdly May 2nd 2011 7:37 am

Re: The United Nations.
 

Originally Posted by licinius (Post 9337501)
Have you learned nothing from Iraq?

You mean that the best place for evil dictators commiting genocide is six foot under.
He was already directly responsible for one war which killed many ppl.and was continuing to wipe out large sections of his own ppl.
The fact that the Americans cocked it up would hardly have been justification for putting a protection order on him or giving him a licence to continue his horrendous deeds.

Mitzyboy May 2nd 2011 7:57 am

Re: The United Nations.
 

Originally Posted by licinius (Post 9337501)
Have you learned nothing from Iraq?

Yes. Haven't you?
Do you not acknowledge the huge differences in the Libyan and Iraq operations? I dont see Allied tropps storming through Libya and taking control of the country. ;):)

jdr May 2nd 2011 2:13 pm

Re: The United Nations.
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 9337572)
Yes. Haven't you?
Do you not acknowledge the huge differences in the Libyan and Iraq operations? I dont see Allied tropps storming through Libya and taking control of the country. ;):)

Yet.

bil May 2nd 2011 2:34 pm

Re: The United Nations.
 

Originally Posted by jdr (Post 9338311)
Yet.

WMDs were a lie, Gaddafi is real.

Mitzyboy May 3rd 2011 8:31 am

Re: The United Nations.
 

Originally Posted by jdr (Post 9338311)
Yet.

I may be niave here, but I think theres more chance of that happening than me winning the lottery :lol:
They arent going to do Iraq, Afghanistan and then risk Libya as well.

I suppose from the earlier post you could ask .... didnt they learn anything from Vietnam?

jdr May 3rd 2011 5:14 pm

Re: The United Nations.
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 9339983)
I may be niave here, but I think theres more chance of that happening than me winning the lottery :lol:
They arent going to do Iraq, Afghanistan and then risk Libya as well.

I suppose from the earlier post you could ask .... didnt they learn anything from Vietnam?

If there is money to be made on weapons and oil perks then they will go anywhere . ;);)

megmet May 6th 2011 12:36 am

Re: The United Nations.
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 9339983)
I may be niave here, but I think theres more chance of that happening than me winning the lottery :lol:
They arent going to do Iraq, Afghanistan and then risk Libya as well.

I suppose from the earlier post you could ask .... didnt they learn anything from Vietnam?

I guess the answer to that one is....NO

Dick Dasterdly May 6th 2011 11:26 am

Re: The United Nations.
 

Originally Posted by megmet (Post 9346185)
I guess the answer to that one is....NO

I would say the answer is YES, especially as the Yankss have a huge axe to grind with Gadaffi and Co and yet have been very careful to distance themselves from any likely ground operations.

Dick Dasterdly May 6th 2011 3:46 pm

Re: The United Nations.
 

Originally Posted by jdr (Post 9340874)
If there is money to be made on weapons and oil perks then they will go anywhere . ;);)

Are you seriously suggesting that a country would deliberately go to war, simply to help its companies increase arms sales ?
Personally I find that arguement to ludicrous to even consider.

With regard to oil, I'm pleased you mentioned perks, because basically thats all its been and it would require an absolutely massive amount of perks to even begin to compensate for all the other costs and losses as well as loss of life involved, so I would be inclined to rule out that arguement also.

Kuwait got back control of its own oil after Saddam had stolen the lot.
The Iraqi oil income now goes to its ppl. instead of being syphoned of to buy arms and develop weapons, as well as kill off many of his own ppl by a very unpleasant dictator.

In those respects,a positive result,.... but whether the end justified the means is another question entirely.


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