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HBG Dec 24th 2011 6:45 pm

Was this a UFO?
 
Last night I was sitting on my terrace playing with the dogs at around eight o'clock when I suddenly noticed a glowing, red object travelling across the sky from roughly west to east. It was probably several miles away and travelled at varying speed, staying stationary for minutes at a time.

I called my wife who came out to the terrace and took photographs of the object. It stayed in the sky, glowing brightly, for several minutes, until the bright red light faded, quite slowly, to be replaced by a normal, much smaller white light which then disappeared into the distance.

After my wife went back indoors, the dogs suddenly sat perfectly still and looked to the right. The bright red ball in the sky had reappeared, much nearer this time, and seemed to be stationary, perhaps a mile into the sky.

I called out to my wife again and she managed to take more photographs. The object glowed for several minutes, until the red light slowly turned white, as though the thing was speeding away into the distance.

There were no fireworks in the area at that time and I was sober.

Nice Guy Dec 24th 2011 7:33 pm

Was this a UFO?
 
I have no idea, but I was abducted by aliens once for a very probing experience..........

rachelk Dec 24th 2011 8:02 pm

Re: Was this a UFO?
 
I'd say it was Father Christmas, but I think he would have gone from east to west.....

jimenato Dec 24th 2011 8:37 pm

Re: Was this a UFO?
 
In which direction were you looking at the time?

Fredbargate Dec 24th 2011 8:46 pm

Re: Was this a UFO?
 
I think the most important question is how much of what had you had to drink?

HBG Dec 24th 2011 8:56 pm

Re: Was this a UFO?
 

Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 9806094)
In which direction were you looking at the time?

South.

Perthbum Dec 24th 2011 9:19 pm

Re: Was this a UFO?
 
Yes it was a UFO, they take 300 years to reach us from another planet outside of our milky way, do a couple of "hoon" laps around our planet and then **** of home.

anonimouse Dec 25th 2011 12:23 am

Re: Was this a UFO?
 
You will see more and more this year as they will be back in large numbers to check on our progress around next December. :p

Dick Dasterdly Dec 25th 2011 1:26 am

Re: Was this a UFO?
 
Of course it was a UFO.

By definition any object flying across the sky which cannot be identified, can be classified as a UFO, (unidentified flying object).

Whether or not it was visiting aliens from some distant planet is a totally different kettle of fish. :blink:

tex_ritter Dec 25th 2011 1:44 am

Re: Was this a UFO?
 
Could be, any other reports that you know of?

Check on
http://www.mufon.com/

I've seen UFO's, they are real without a doubt.

jimenato Dec 25th 2011 5:29 am

Re: Was this a UFO?
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 9806201)
Of course it was a UFO.

By definition any object flying across the sky which cannot be identified, can be classified as a UFO, (unidentified flying object).

Whether or not it was visiting aliens from some distant planet is a totally different kettle of fish. :blink:

Correct. No doubt that it was a UFO. Now to try identifying it.

If you were looking south and it was travelling west to east it would be presenting its left (port) side to you. Craft carry a red light on their port side. They also carry a white light astern so if the red light faded to white light which then moved away it is displaying all the qualities of a normal craft - of the helicopter type maybe?.

HBG Dec 25th 2011 6:13 am

Re: Was this a UFO?
 
I had a closer look at the photographs today and would be quite happy with a logical explanation. What I've got is a glowing red spherical object with something like a protruding nose in the middle of it, always facing in my direction.

I'm able to roughly judge its speed and size because of what we call the Malaga passenger jet which crosses the same patch of sky most nights, though an hour later.

This object was twice the size of the jet and covered something like the same journey in seconds, rather than the several minutes for the passenger jet.

The weirdest thing was its ability to suddenly stop in its flight and hover for minutes in the same spot. We've got a Spanish air force base nearby at San Javier and are used to seeing jet trainers in the sky during the day, and helicopters too. This object travelled many times faster, it covered many miles in less than a second.

When the large red glow slowly turned white, the white spot was the size of distant stars and faded in a second or so.

iamthecreaturefromuranus Dec 25th 2011 7:45 am

Re: Was this a UFO?
 

Originally Posted by HBG (Post 9806280)
I had a closer look at the photographs today and would be quite happy with a logical explanation. What I've got is a glowing red spherical object with something like a protruding nose in the middle of it, always facing in my direction.

I'm able to roughly judge its speed and size because of what we call the Malaga passenger jet which crosses the same patch of sky most nights, though an hour later.

This object was twice the size of the jet and covered something like the same journey in seconds, rather than the several minutes for the passenger jet.

The weirdest thing was its ability to suddenly stop in its flight and hover for minutes in the same spot. We've got a Spanish air force base nearby at San Javier and are used to seeing jet trainers in the sky during the day, and helicopters too. This object travelled many times faster, it covered many miles in less than a second.

When the large red glow slowly turned white, the white spot was the size of distant stars and faded in a second or so.

Your chances of accurately juding the size of an object at night when its not much more than a point of light is almost nil, even for a trained observer.

What would you say this is?


HBG Dec 25th 2011 10:03 am

Re: Was this a UFO?
 
I'm a normal human being, curious about my surroundings, but not obsessively so. I was surprised by what I saw, what my wife saw, what the dogs saw and what we caught on camera.

I'm not into UFOs or anything like that, and what I saw was nothing like the You Tube video posted above. At the same time, I'm not unduly bothered.

I posted to see if anyone else had seen the object, or if someone could offer an explanation.

It appears not, but I thank the contributors.

iamthecreaturefromuranus Dec 25th 2011 10:11 am

Re: Was this a UFO?
 

Originally Posted by HBG (Post 9806397)
I'm a normal human being, curious about my surroundings, but not obsessively so. I was surprised by what I saw, what my wife saw, what the dogs saw and what we caught on camera.

I'm not into UFOs or anything like that, and what I saw was nothing like the You Tube video posted above. At the same time, I'm not unduly bothered.

I posted to see if anyone else had seen the object, or if someone could offer an explanation.

It appears not, but I thank the contributors.

Just for info. The lights in the video above, widely accepted at the time as a 'UFO', were military flares.

rachelk Dec 25th 2011 11:08 am

Re: Was this a UFO?
 
FWIW my brother reported seeing something strange last night as well, though in NE England. He also mentioned it was red. I'd have taken no notice of him had I not already seen this thread.

He didn't get any photos or videos though.

HBG Dec 25th 2011 11:27 am

Re: Was this a UFO?
 

Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 9806403)
Just for info. The lights in the video above, widely accepted at the time as a 'UFO', were military flares.

I did say, quite specifically, that what I saw was nothing like your video clip.

iamthecreaturefromuranus Dec 25th 2011 1:19 pm

Re: Was this a UFO?
 

Originally Posted by HBG (Post 9806447)
I did say, quite specifically, that what I saw was nothing like your video clip.

My point was that thousands, and I do mean thousands, of people in the Phoenix area, were convinced that they had seen something 'unusual'... and they were all wrong.
'Lights in the sky', particularly at night, are notoriously difficult to identify and attempts at calculating size and speed, is almost impossible to do. People are pretty hopeless at calculating speed, even of everyday objects, at the best of times. Factor in darkness and you may as well forget about it.

kmthor Dec 25th 2011 1:41 pm

Re: Was this a UFO?
 

Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 9806403)
Just for info. The lights in the video above, widely accepted at the time as a 'UFO', were military flares.

lol formation flares??? and we all believe the military..

iamthecreaturefromuranus Dec 25th 2011 2:33 pm

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Originally Posted by kmthor (Post 9806516)
lol formation flares??? and we all believe the military..

You're somewhat proving my point. You're seeing what you want to see... something suspicious, something exciting, something unusual, when a totally mundane explanation can't be right and must be evidence of a military 'cover up'.

CelticRover Dec 25th 2011 2:48 pm

Re: Was this a UFO?
 
My wife and I both saw those lights for a prolonged period and the closest thing that I could come up with was a formation of choppers on a night mission. They didn't look like any flares that I had ever seen.

iamthecreaturefromuranus Dec 25th 2011 2:56 pm

Re: Was this a UFO?
 

Originally Posted by CelticRover (Post 9806551)
My wife and I both saw those lights for a prolonged period and the closest thing that I could come up with was a formation of choppers on a night mission. They didn't look like any flares that I had ever seen.

Could well have been. All I read about it, suggested that they were flares being fired by an A-10. Either way they weren't 'flying saucers' despite what many wanted to believe.

Alfresco Dec 25th 2011 7:51 pm

Re: Was this a UFO?
 

Originally Posted by HBG (Post 9806280)
I had a closer look at the photographs today and would be quite happy with a logical explanation. What I've got is a glowing red spherical object with something like a protruding nose in the middle of it, always facing in my direction.

I'm able to roughly judge its speed and size because of what we call the Malaga passenger jet which crosses the same patch of sky most nights, though an hour later.

This object was twice the size of the jet and covered something like the same journey in seconds, rather than the several minutes for the passenger jet.

The weirdest thing was its ability to suddenly stop in its flight and hover for minutes in the same spot. We've got a Spanish air force base nearby at San Javier and are used to seeing jet trainers in the sky during the day, and helicopters too. This object travelled many times faster, it covered many miles in less than a second.

When the large red glow slowly turned white, the white spot was the size of distant stars and faded in a second or so.


Can you post some pics, please?

Fredbargate Dec 25th 2011 7:59 pm

Re: Was this a UFO?
 

Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 9806267)
If you were looking south and it was travelling west to east it would be presenting its left (port) side to you. Craft carry a red light on their port side. They also carry a white light astern so if the red light faded to white light which then moved away it is displaying all the qualities of a normal craft - of the helicopter type maybe?.

Aircraft also have strobe lights that are usually more visable than their normal navigation lights.

jimenato Dec 25th 2011 8:29 pm

Re: Was this a UFO?
 

Originally Posted by Alfresco (Post 9806655)
Can you post some pics, please?

Yes, would like to see the pics


Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 9806656)
Aircraft also have strobe lights that are usually more visable than their normal navigation lights.

True.

HBG Dec 25th 2011 11:45 pm

Re: Was this a UFO?
 
Not that I know how to upload them anyway, but a friend with contacts in the media world is negotiating for me. I might get to be famous, or rich.

anonimouse Dec 26th 2011 12:48 am

Re: Was this a UFO?
 

Originally Posted by HBG;9806397[B
]I'm a normal human being[/B], curious about my surroundings, but not obsessively so. I was surprised by what I saw, what my wife saw, what the dogs saw and what we caught on camera.

I'm not into UFOs or anything like that, and what I saw was nothing like the You Tube video posted above. At the same time, I'm not unduly bothered.

I posted to see if anyone else had seen the object, or if someone could offer an explanation.

It appears not, but I thank the contributors.

Now that is debateable:rofl::p

HBG Dec 26th 2011 3:41 am

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Originally Posted by anonimouse (Post 9806790)
Now that is debateable:rofl::p

You could be right. Is it normal to post over 3,000 times on an internet forum?

I'm on a diet and have already eaten two Mars bars today. I didn't listen to the Queen's Christmas message, but listened to Elvis instead.

I enjoyed reading Twilight (last year). And I've seen a UFO on Christmas Eve.

Normal? Maybe not.

Alfresco Dec 26th 2011 8:37 am

Re: Was this a UFO?
 

Originally Posted by HBG (Post 9806756)
Not that I know how to upload them anyway, but a friend with contacts in the media world is negotiating for me. I might get to be famous, or rich.

I hope so too. Good luck! :thumbup:

HBG Dec 26th 2011 9:56 am

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Originally Posted by Alfresco (Post 9807035)
I hope so too. Good luck! :thumbup:

Thank you.

Don Limpio Dec 26th 2011 10:44 am

Re: Was this a UFO?
 
Maybe?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ter-mailonline

Lionda Dec 26th 2011 9:27 pm

Re: Was this a UFO?
 

Originally Posted by HBG (Post 9806068)
Last night I was sitting on my terrace playing with the dogs at around eight o'clock when I suddenly noticed a glowing, red object travelling across the sky from roughly west to east. It was probably several miles away and travelled at varying speed, staying stationary for minutes at a time.

I called my wife who came out to the terrace and took photographs of the object. It stayed in the sky, glowing brightly, for several minutes, until the bright red light faded, quite slowly, to be replaced by a normal, much smaller white light which then disappeared into the distance.

After my wife went back indoors, the dogs suddenly sat perfectly still and looked to the right. The bright red ball in the sky had reappeared, much nearer this time, and seemed to be stationary, perhaps a mile into the sky.

I called out to my wife again and she managed to take more photographs. The object glowed for several minutes, until the red light slowly turned white, as though the thing was speeding away into the distance.

There were no fireworks in the area at that time and I was sober.

I saw a comet in the sky, as did my daughter and husband some months back, I put a message on here to see if anyone else had seen it but no-one had. Got a few sarky comments :thumbdown:

jackytoo Dec 26th 2011 10:58 pm

Re: Was this a UFO?
 
I don't really believe in UFO's. There is usually some explanation for them, unless you are a conspiracy enthusiast. Many are even faked. Though I was on a cruise a couple of years ago. Watching the sunset on the Gulf of Mexico. Above the sun was 3 strange objects hovering shaped like cigars. I was impressed enough to google when I came home and there had been sightings in the USA too. The weather does throw up some strange formations.

bobd22 Dec 26th 2011 11:13 pm

Re: Was this a UFO?
 
Certainly in the UK the most common cause for strange/suspicious light over the last 5 or so years has been the Chinese lanterns that have become so popular for any form of celebration. They go to a fair height and can travel some distance.

iamthecreaturefromuranus Dec 26th 2011 11:16 pm

Re: Was this a UFO?
 

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 9807575)
I don't really believe in UFO's. There is usually some explanation for them, unless you are a conspiracy enthusiast. Many are even faked. Though I was on a cruise a couple of years ago. Watching the sunset on the Gulf of Mexico. Above the sun was 3 strange objects hovering shaped like cigars. I was impressed enough to google when I came home and there had been sightings in the USA too. The weather does throw up some strange formations.

It sure does.

http://www.planetpals.com/weather/lenticular-clouds.jpg

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...ld_665096n.jpg

http://spaceplace.nasa.gov/review/cl...e/mammatus.jpg

jimenato Dec 26th 2011 11:57 pm

Re: Was this a UFO?
 
Those Lenticular clouds are amazing aren't they? I see them sometimes over the Sierra Bermeja at a distance of about 20k. You can see how they might get mistaken for flying saucers.


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