True or False? Illegal Workers (cash jobs)
 

Did you know? If you employ illegal workers and if/when they are caught by the hacienda and policia local, YOU are liable to pay their taxes and fines, as you are deemed responsible to verify the legality of anyone you employ.

True or false? Anyone had to do that?

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Similar to the UK, where a company is liable if they employ "self employed" personnel who default on their tax liabilty.

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I believe that is true but I doubt that too many people are caught as it is going to be very difficult to enforce.

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I have know of a few employers who have been caught employing people on the black.

They have been heavily fined, had to give the person a legal contract and pay some of the back social security payments.

I have also heard of people who have been given a warning and told to put the workers on cantracts, but other than that no sanctions.

I dont know in the case of "illegals", people who have no paperwork to be in the country.

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which really doesn't explain why my ex-boss in the now-closed-down language school was horrified when I said I was registered & paid as autonoma:confused:

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I dont understand your post, sorry:confused:

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since they apparently can be fined for employing illegals, you'd think she would have been pleased I was legal


but she wasn't - she didn't want me to declare what I earned there - which would mean I was working there on the black - illegally

that's why I was confused:confused:

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Gotcha:)

They were probably upset,because they would have declared that they were such a small concern that they could not afford any employees and did all the work themselves, and you legal status threw a spanner in the works.

There are scams and scammers everywhere.

My marida knows an English guy who sells to bars, crisps nuts, prepacked bacon, and other british goods.

He drives a UK registered van,unrefridgerated to boot, and claims that he is a British registered company, and pays his VAT in the UK.

Somone brings his stuff over for him and he has lived here for years, but is not selfemployed here, I dont know how he gets away with it.

He has preople helping him out for a daily rate......

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He's going to end up with nil pension contributions in either country. Unless of course he's claiming benefit whilst working illegally in Spain. Plus there's the health issue. He's exactly the person who should be operating as autonomo - if he's doing well enough to hire help, the fee wouldn't be too oppressive and a good accountant or gestor would help him avoid paying much tax.
Still his choice, I suppose...

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I was once told that it costs almost as much again to employ someone legally as they get in salary. That is, the cost of employment is so high that many companies try and avoid it. However, that should really encourage companies to employ autonomos rather than staff on contracts:confused:

I'm not quite sure how companies can ensure than autonomos are paying their taxes - surely they've done all they can by inspecting the individuals paperwork.


Back to the question from the OP - everyone has assumed that Grapeeater was referring to companies employing illegal workers are liable (probably true) but what about an individual having some work done? Are they liable as well? Is, perhaps, that what the OP was referring to?

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The thing is not many companies can get away with "employing"self employed people, most jobs cant.
The only way they can do that, legally and ethically, is when someone give a service, and they anre not employed, they get paid at the end of the month for their service.
So the self employed person is "freelance" with the "employer" as a client, so to speak.

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the company employing the person in question does not have to know that the person is paying tax, they need to see that they are legal though but if the SS, Hacienda, or any other government body have not been paid, they can force the "employer" to deduct money from their client and pay the debts into the creditors bank account directly.

If that person leaves their employ, all such payments cease andit will be the responsibility of the new employer.

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Exactly. I know someone who has been in Spain 20 years. He has paid no contributions in either country and is now 50 years old. I wonder if they worry about it.

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Many choose to pay the 2.50 per week class 2 contributions in the UK, thus ensuring a UK pension.

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On this theme. Can anyone explain what a "Shell company" is please? (not the petro chemical one!) someone I know heard from a recruiting company that there was a job going in her area if she could be paid through a "shell company" is this some kind of sneaky trick. Or is it a normal thing? I'm assuming the company was British but wanted workers in Spain. Don't know any more than that.