Train development news
Sep 25th 2011 | 6:15 am
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Stayed at the Molino del santo for a few days. Comfortable room with coffee and tea maker. Nice to eat by the bubbling stream in the evening and the breakfasts are good, lots of home made jams and honey. The village itself is a bit of a dump, lots of meat curing factories and we even stumbled across a huge battery farm, but there are some nice marked walks on the outskirts.
But I agree. Up the road at Montejaque, a drive/walk through LÃbar valley is worth doing.
Sep 25th 2011 | 7:30 am
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Benaohan (me)
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Molino del Santo is a very special place - I can't afford to eat there very often but it's great.
We'll walk back down to Jimera de Libar and have beer and tapas in Bar Allioli
Sep 25th 2011 | 9:13 am
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Sep 25th 2011 | 7:02 pm
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Re: Train development news
Benaohan (me)
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Molino del Santo is a very special place - I can't afford to eat there very often but it's great.
We'll walk back down to Jimera de Libar and have beer and tapas in Bar Allioli
Sep 26th 2011 | 5:39 pm
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The AVE link to Alicante will arrive next year, but there is still no fixed date. They are saying it will be between summer and Christmas of 2012. So probably early December?
http://ave-renfe.edreams.es/general/...ve-a-alicante/
http://ave-renfe.edreams.es/general/...ve-a-alicante/
Sep 26th 2011 | 9:32 pm
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Lots of trains cancelled yesterday due to strikes. Think they are on strike today too.
Sep 26th 2011 | 9:46 pm
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Another thing about upgrading the line for AVE is that it is wide gauge - it changes to standard gauge at Bobadilla.
Sep 26th 2011 | 9:49 pm
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That might explain a mystery. Normally on the way up towards Ronda, the train has to wait at Colmenar or Cortez de la Frontera for a fast train coming the other way. Yesterday it didn't.
Oct 15th 2011 | 8:54 pm
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A very interesting article here on the high speed link being built from Leon to Asturias. according to the report, the Pajares new line (basically tunnels that will make the journey a lot more direct and quicker) will be in operation in 2012 (probably the end of the year) as will the fast line covering Valladolid-Palencia-Leon. I suspect the passenger numbers north of Valladolid won't be as impressive as say Madrid to Valencia, but the interesting aspect is that freight trains will be able to use the Pajares link - Asturias exports a lot of raw materials as well as imports in its ports to the rest of Spain, so this new line will be well used by freight I believe. Indeed they are putting down the Iberian guage line for freight trains first - the faster line using international guage will follow afterwards.
http://www.adif.es/en_US/infraestruc...asturias.shtml
http://www.adif.es/en_US/infraestruc...asturias.shtml
The Pajares New Line will come into service in 2012, coinciding with the opening of the Valladolid – Palencia – León high-speed railway link.
It has the typical characteristics of high-speed lines and will be suitable for passenger and freight trains. Thus, not only the citizens, but also Asturian companies will benefit from the advantages offered by the new railway access to Asturias.
Maximum optimisation, operating capacity and efficiency of the new infrastructure will be achieved through the installation, during a first stage, of Iberian gauge (1,668 mm).
Thanks to this solution, freight trains will also be able to use the new infrastructure, thus avoiding the winding and slow route of the current conventional network. Railway traffic from the Asturian ports of Gijón and Avilés bound for the central plateau will be boosted with this measure.
Subsequently, in a second stage, the third international track will be laid, which will enable passenger and freight traffic using UIC gauge.
It has the typical characteristics of high-speed lines and will be suitable for passenger and freight trains. Thus, not only the citizens, but also Asturian companies will benefit from the advantages offered by the new railway access to Asturias.
Maximum optimisation, operating capacity and efficiency of the new infrastructure will be achieved through the installation, during a first stage, of Iberian gauge (1,668 mm).
Thanks to this solution, freight trains will also be able to use the new infrastructure, thus avoiding the winding and slow route of the current conventional network. Railway traffic from the Asturian ports of Gijón and Avilés bound for the central plateau will be boosted with this measure.
Subsequently, in a second stage, the third international track will be laid, which will enable passenger and freight traffic using UIC gauge.
Oct 17th 2011 | 8:16 am
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Does anybody know when the AVE train will arrive at Cadiz
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Oct 17th 2011 | 5:42 pm
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They're talking about a 2014 date in this article (delayed from the initial estimate of 2011)
To be honest, I suspect it won't be finalised. The new government will make some severe spending cuts. and lines that aren't already nearly built will probably get the axe. But we'll see.
http://ave-renfe.edreams.es/general/...l-ave-a-cadiz/
To be honest, I suspect it won't be finalised. The new government will make some severe spending cuts. and lines that aren't already nearly built will probably get the axe. But we'll see.
http://ave-renfe.edreams.es/general/...l-ave-a-cadiz/
Oct 17th 2011 | 5:47 pm
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The announcement of the Medina-Mecca high speed line (widely believed to be about to be awarded to a Spanish consortium) could be delayed by 3 months. It's believed this is so the Saudi King can sign with the new Spanish administration. Again, we will have to watch developments...
http://www.eleconomista.es/empresas-...res-meses.html
http://www.eleconomista.es/empresas-...res-meses.html
Oct 17th 2011 | 9:06 pm
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Not being well up or involved with the new train systems, I noticed mention of different gauged tracks.
I presume this limits the new line systems to hi-speed trains only.
I'm curious as to whether these new and I presume wider gauges are only for the AVE, or are they used throughout France,the Channel tunnel and other countries such as Germany ?
Also I wonder why the wider gauge was considered essential as against the standard gauge, maybe it's necessary for extra stability especially on bends ?
Possibly that Cornish guy who built the Worlds first loco and opted for wide gauge had the right idea first time ?
I presume this limits the new line systems to hi-speed trains only.
I'm curious as to whether these new and I presume wider gauges are only for the AVE, or are they used throughout France,the Channel tunnel and other countries such as Germany ?
Also I wonder why the wider gauge was considered essential as against the standard gauge, maybe it's necessary for extra stability especially on bends ?
Possibly that Cornish guy who built the Worlds first loco and opted for wide gauge had the right idea first time ?
