Totally Confused
 

Hi we are moving to Spain initially in a rental property in Montroy outside of Valencia and have had so many varying bits of information thrown at us we are turning to experts who have done it and got the 'T' shirt so to speak.

We understand that we need an NIE number and during a recent visit obtained the necessary application forms from the local police. We understand that we can complete these and apply for the number at the Spanish Consulate in Manchester before coming over to save queuing.

However what we are not clear about is what other forms do we need to complete. We are not taking up Spanish Residency maintaining a home in the UK and paying taxes there, by the way I am a silver haired senior citizen drawing my UK State pension but have income also plus other private pensions in the UK all paid into a UK bank account, sounds a lot but believe me it is not.

I have just read that if we are going to stay in Spain for more than 3 months we need to register and obtain a registration certificate as an EU Resident (certificado de registro). This document certifies our residence in Spain and states name, address, nationality, and the foreigners tax identification or NIE (Número de Identificación de Extranjero) number along with date of registration.

Another site says we need a Empadronamiento is this a different form and do we need both or one of them if so which one?

We would appreciate any help and advice given.

Dave

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Where to start!

Firstly if you are coming to live in Spain then yes, you need to register.

I'm not sure what you mean by staying resident in the UK and paying taxes in the UK. You have to pay taxes in your country of residence, and that WILL be Spain. So in effect when you become tax resident here you will be required to do a tax return here. Worldwide income is subject to tax here, with a few notable exceptions like some Government pensions.

Your padron is like registering at the local council, and you can do that when you have arrived. If you brink a UK car you will need to matriculate it to Spanish plates

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I should add that as a Spanish resident you will not have access to the NHS any more, and therefore you need to gain form E121 from DWP Newcastle which, as a pensioner, will give you full access to the Spanish health system which all in all is very good

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As Mitzy says get your E 121`s, if your wife is not of pension age then she can be your dependant and get full cover too.
When you apply for your residencia certificate they will assign you an NIE number at the same time.
You will need this form to be able to sign on for medical care.
I have just had a Hernia operation and can vouch that the Spanish health care is far superior, time wise and Hospital wise to the UK.
I was in for one day only and had my own room with an ensuite shower room, plasma TV and a view of a palm tree in the sun from the patio doors.

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Hi Mitzyboy
Thanks for quick reply I think I indicated that we would not be becoming RESIDENTS in Spain but would have long term visitor status by registering under
certificado de registro, does this make sense to you?

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Hi JDR

many thanks for prompt reply I had not thought about form E121 We will organise that before we come.
cheers

Dave

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Hi Mitzy
I should have said that my car is a lease car which of course is not registered to me I am presently clarifying with the lease company what difference this makes to having it in Spain for more than 6 months as I do not think they would appreciate having their car registered in Spain I have their written permission to drive it in Spain.

cheers

Dave

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You will need the new residencia certificate to get your health cover and like it or not you will be deemed resident in Spain if you are here for more than three months and after 6 months you will become tax resident.

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You will struggle to get permission for a UK lease car here if you are living in Spain, read the DVLA site regarding taking a car out of the UK.

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Hi JDR

Thanks for concern in order to take a lease car out of the country one needs the paperwork from the leasing company that gives the driver the right to drive the car abroad because they do not have the VC5 registration documents for the car, this form replaces the VC5.

I have driven lease cars for over 30 years without problems but thank you for noting this and I appreciate your help

regards

Dave

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Note that under Spanish law, the vehicle will have to be put onto Spanish plates within three months of your arrival!
Do a search on the forum for UK cars in Spain, the topic has been covered literally hundreds of times. To be legal here, it has to be legal in its' country of registration, so taxed, insured and MOT'd in the UK, but if the car is here any longer than 3 months, you run the risk of it being impounded. Also note that very few, if any UK insurers will cover a car abroad for longer than 3 months.

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Thanks for the suggestion Brenda has logged details in her Spanish folder and we shall certainly pay a visit.

regards

Dave

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Hi good info although I understaood it to be 6 months I am having discussions with my leasing company over what I can and cannot do with their vehicle when I get full info from them I will post it for others to gain from my experience.

regards

Dave

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Dave

In your first post you said you were turning to people who have got the T shirt!! You just saw a post from Valencia Tim about registering cars, and he normally gives good advice :)

You have had some good accurate advice on here, maybe a good idea to take it on board ;):) as its given by people who do have the T shirt :D