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I consider myself pretty unshockable, and my wife is the same. Tonight, while innocently watching the news, we were both shocked.

I know the case is sub-judice, but Rolf Harris? It sort of destroys your belief in human nature by several notches.

It's not nice to live your life with excess cynicism, and we try not to, but this is a hammer blow.

If it's true, they should hang the bastard.

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Tie me kangaroo down sport. :blink:

Well I must admit, I always had him down as one of the nice guys so I agree with you about losing faith a little bit.
Though I didn't know what Saville had been up to, he was never one of my favourite characters and some of the others involved I never gave much thought to, but Rolf Harris,.... well it just shows you never can tell.

There again consider how many terrorists, serial killers and rapists have turned out to be someones best neighbour.

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You go through life and observe things around you. You study hard and read a lot of books. Near to the end of the process you look in the mirror and see a well-adjusted, intelligent, normal human being.

Well, mirrors tell lies. You know next to nothing. The world is full of Rolf Harrises that haven't even been found yet. Most of them never will be.

You can't even keep it simple. I've never trusted people with beards. But Savile didn't have one, did he?

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Bizarre statement?

Harris was first questioned over these charges in March this year!

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I was shocked that at over 80 years old and he is/was downloading porn involving young children.:thumbdown: Makes one wonder what other things he was up to between the charges.

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well at least it didn't involve 'Two Little Boys'

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Yeh but what about the poor bloody kangaroo ?

At least now we know why he wanted it tying down. :cool:

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as said above, it has been rumbling around for several months during which he has been back to oz and done a show or two and been well received.

I am sure many here can look back to the time when they were in early to mid 20's and think - there but for the grace of god go I.

I still believe that some of this is long range revenge, but waiting 50-60 years :ohmy:
and whose recollection is that correct as to what happened to whom, when and where after that time.
Just funny that it should all be now following on from the Saville thing.
:(

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Well no way am I tanning his hide.

What about you Mr. James ??

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...And what about the child porn he has been dowloading:blink: in 2012!

I always found him an irritating person but I liked the 2 little boys song, it will never sound the same again!

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Kangaroos must the only animals that go around punching people. I've often wondered why. Now I know.

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Innocent until proven guilty?

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True but in high profile cases like this the CPS will have been pretty sure of a conviction to actually charge him.

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Like they were with Andrew Lancel

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The Crown Prosecution Service make their decisions on a 60% probability of conviction.

But the CPS hadn't been invented in the 70s and early 80s, nor had DNA. The decision to commence proceedings would be made at local police level, Detective Inspector level for offences of rape and indecent assault.

There were no fancy victim suites either, in busy stations a scruffy interview office would be used and sympathetic women officers, specially trained for such cases, didn't exist.

So the DI would often have just a 14-year old girl victim, no corroborative evidence, and a celebrity accused with a fancy solicitor. If he wrote 'insufficient evidence' on the crime sheet, that would be the end of the matter, and he could get back to chasing armed robbers.

And crucially, if it was a travelling celebrity, the allegations made against him would not be on a central register, the police in London would not know of similar allegations made in other parts of the country.

It's all different now, and that's why these old crimes are coming to light many years later.