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I don't want to spoil your fun so here are some more links:
http://www.lavozdegalicia.es/galicia...104G2P3993.htm
http://www.lavozdegalicia.es/galicia...104G2P3991.htm
http://www.lavozdegalicia.es/galicia...104G2P2991.htm
I will be posting résumés of the articles on the Portuguese section.
Have fun;)

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There is still hope :)
http://www.lavozdegalicia.es/galicia...104G2P3993.htm

Portuguese Minister Jose Socrates, could deliver more than half of Portugal from having to pay new tolls automatic. The Luso Government said yesterday acting legal doubts about whether an interim status of the Executive may approve the decrees necessary to implement automatic tolls on the motorways of the Algarve, Beira (the entire area bounded on the south by the northern country) and the northern interior in the A-24 that connects with Chaves Viseu, Verin border town.
The cabinet of Socrates believes that to implement the April 15 automatic tolls on the four affected highways would need to use their legislative power, a task that requires legal approval from the legal departments of the Council of Ministers. This halt to the expansion of tolls is interpreted as an attempt by the Socialist Party to prevent new outbreaks of protest in the country, as happened in the north with the introduction of the charging system.

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Sorry, the above translation is a bit confusing I think this one is better.

The Portuguese Minister Jose Socrates, could release more than half of Portugal from having to pay new automatic tolls. The Luso Government said yesterday having legal doubts about whether an interim status of the Executive may approve the decrees necessary to implement automatic tolls on the motorways of the Algarve, Beira and the northern interior in the A-24 that connects with Chaves,Viseu and Verin border town.
The cabinet of Socrates believes that to implement on April 15, the automatic tolls on the four affected highways would need to use their legislative power, a task that requires legal approval from the legal departments of the Council of Ministers.

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Re: Tool Charges on the A22 to Faro
 

Hope they do delay the toll charges. We're coming over to Ayamonte on 14 April, returning on 28 April. I've been following this thread for the last few weeks & wondered how it would impact on us, as we're hiring a car at Faro. The toll charges will come into force whilst we are in Ayamonte. So it could be a bit confusing as to how we pay at the end of the fortnight.

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We will be coming into the Algarve via Huelva on Sunday April 17th and have no idea if anything will be open to get the transponder. If anyone travels before then we'd appreciate any info they pick up.

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I think it is fair to point out the the N125 is not being closed and in extremis we can still get to Faro and back. Indeed at the start of this thread I did say that for our future rellie pick ups we would only use the A22 for one leg of each journey as pensioners the cost is prohibitive for four trips €40+ each time someone comes out.

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I am hoping and have everything crossed that the tolls will not be up and running, in view of all Portugal's problems it seems ridiculous to put something in place to discourage visitors. If the suggestion is they will just to be able to make money on fines etc for folk not paying ('cos they do not know how to!!) then I am astonished that such a short sighted policy by a government would be agreed to. We have two lots of flights into Faro this year but if the tolls are implemented we shall probably look at flying into Seville in the future and use the old road for our trips into Portugal as we really enjoy that coastline and the villages.

The PT tourist board, embassy and 3 car hire companies that I have contacted cannot give an answer to the "hire car" scenario that the majority of us need the info on.

Yes John...I thought OK pay the toll (if we know the method) but as you say a return trip to Faro @ €40 is a bit much

Mel

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Hi Have a look at a post I made on the other thread that I think summarises our problems

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showp...&postcount=242

Unfortunately I dont think at the moment we can help you with these problems. We are also coming out in a couple of days for a long visit, and unhappy with all this - as the proposed changes will happen whilst we are there - even if delayed.

However we hope that the delays can be really long so that we can 'worry about it another time' !

What a mess... :thumbdown:

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Sorry, my maths is wonky - will be €20 for a return journey to Faro but as you say John if you are picking up folk and returning them at the end of their stay it will be €40 for you.

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Its 20 for a return trup. John has to make 2 return trips. 1 to pick up 1 to drop off..... renters will pay 20 only as its one return trip airport - home - airport

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One way trip I reckon €20 there on N125 back on the A22 zero take them back to catch plane there on A22 back on N125 so yes €40 for both trips.

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Thats interesting the ONE WAY trip is 20, so 40 return to the airport???

Using the 125 is a slow road and takes much more time, and so makes friend/relative pick up more of a hassle.

I didnt realise from the discussion that its 20 one way. Meaning just to pick up/drop off people at airport if you use the mway both ways will cost 80euro. Thats steep!

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I understand it to be.... I arrive at faro for my hols go to CE and that costs €10 then to return from CE after the hol to faro airport then another €10 = €20 Only use the Toll road twice

BUT if I am at CE and go to pick up a friend from faro - there and back ie use the toll road twice(€20)...then at the end of their holiday return them to the airport ie there and back using the road twice again (another €20) so total €40. The 125 is a good but slow road and for Airport trips you don't want delays so you would want to use the faster road.

BTW Jon can you put your excellent post on the Portugal forum on this one for all to see- you make the difficult problems we car renters at Faro clear to understand. I am hoping they will delay the tolls and I do think that if this does go ahead many of us will by flying into Seville - someone ages ago said the car hire is cheaper there if so maybe a little silver lining. I don't like driving from Seville airport to the M/way as it is so busy and so many lanes..arrrgh - but going back is OK as you just follow the airpost signs. Hey, they could they put CE signs up immediately after "salida" that would be Sooooo helpful.

Mel

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Thats why I described as I did we think after a 2 1/2 hr flight the rellies will not want to sit for another 1 1/2 hr in the car so we set of early to pick up via the N125 and on the return trip go the motorway for certainty and return N125 that way it costs €40 for the two trips. From what I have seen the full 40-50 km will come out at about €20 one way.