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Re: Too fat to fly?
Originally Posted by Fredbargate
(Post 10985751)
I can agree with that but its not a bit extra, it's a lot extra.
E.G.worked out for a flight next week on BA Gib to LHR Cattle class= £0.485 per squ inch of floor space Businessclass = £1.465 per sq inch of floor space Even if you take into account the empty seat in the middle of a row of 3 it is still about £1 a sq inch Two things not taken into account though... Even if the seat size is increased by only a few centimetres, this will remove the option of putting another "standard" size seat in, so another full fare is lost! Secondly, though your "space per pound" looks impressive, it doesn´t take into account the "weight per pound" so to speak thus increasing carrier costs even further. :confused: |
Re: Too fat to fly?
Originally Posted by me me
(Post 10986188)
Most people in business class are not extra tall or overwieght, they are paying for extras to make the journey more comfortable.
So if due to ones weight or size, a pricier alternative has to be paid for, then that is not discrimination, at all. It is simply the way of the world. To try and explain, I will use the example of a friend of mine who went on a cruise, her and hubby booked the cheapest inside cabin. After the first night, she was frantic, and panicky because she could not stand the closed in feeling. They asked if they could be moved to a cabin with a window, there were non available, but there was a balcony suite. Which cost over double the price, which could be said it was a lot to pay for a balcony that they did not want, all they wanted was a bit of daylight to stop the claustraphobic feeling. They took that, and enjoyed the cruise, of course it made a large dent in their finances, but they paid for their own comfort. To say that bigger people are being discriminated against because they may have to pay extra for bigger seating, is way off the mark. Seating on an aircraft was designed for max profit and a standardish shape and weight of passenger, as are the cabins on a cruise ship. If for any reason the passengers, want/need or simply fancy more, then they pay for it. What is the problem with that. From what I can see, it's not the "FATTIES" that are complaining in this topic, about having to pay for extras, it appears to me to be "OTHER" people??? |
Re: Too fat to fly?
Originally Posted by bertibassett
(Post 10986208)
From what I can see, it's not the "FATTIES" that are complaining in this topic, about having to pay for extras, it appears to me to be "OTHER" people???
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Re: Too fat to fly?
Originally Posted by IamStu
(Post 10986215)
How do know? For example, Me Me might be built like a bus!
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Re: Too fat to fly?
Originally Posted by bertibassett
(Post 10986208)
From what I can see, it's not the "FATTIES" that are complaining in this topic, about having to pay for extras, it appears to me to be "OTHER" people???
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Re: Too fat to fly?
Originally Posted by IamStu
(Post 10986215)
How do know? For example, Me Me might be built like a bus!
I do not overflow into the seats beside me, but the person infront will be jolted by my knees every few minutes. However I do fit into cruise ship cabins be they inside or balconied. |
Re: Too fat to fly?
Originally Posted by IamStu
(Post 10986215)
How do know? For example, Me Me might be built like a bus!
Originally Posted by bertibassett
(Post 10986220)
Not from previous comments she makes.
You can bet your ass on that!!! |
Re: Too fat to fly?
Originally Posted by me me
(Post 10986236)
you never know.;)
Even if I am, or whatevery other issues I may have, when it comes to my comfort I will pay what is needed, and would not whinge or cry "discrimination". You can bet your ass on that!!! |
Re: Too fat to fly?
Originally Posted by Fredbargate
(Post 10986223)
me me would not enjoy sitting in front of me on an aircraft.
I do not overflow into the seats beside me, but the person infront will be jolted by my knees every few minutes. However I do fit into cruise ship cabins be they inside or balconied. And I have also travelled with small children on flights, and the bumping of the seat infront is part of the deal.:) After all I am paying for a flight, not for a pampering experience. I am going from A to B and do not expect home comforts. |
Re: Too fat to fly?
Budget airlines don't offer a business class service so larger people have to put up with being uncomfortable in standard sized seats (OK, most people are uncomfortable in cattle-class, but that's beside the point).
As has been said, very wide people sometimes upset their neighbours by overflowing into their seats, understandable because no-one really likes being squashed. So to get around this problem, and prevent the likes of O'Leary suggesting nonsense like weighing people, perhaps budget airlines could install a few extra-wide seats. Yes, that would mean maybe just two seats in an aisle instead of three, but the cost could be recouped by charging more for the wider seats. In addition to this, and to make it awkward for very wide people to just ignore the protestations of their slimmer fellow passengers, perhaps individual vertical seat dividers could be installed to prevent overflowing. That way the very wide people just wouldn't be able to physically fit into a standard sized seat and would be forced to purchase a wider seat or not fly with that airline. And any other passengers that prefer a wider seat could pay the extra and book one as well, which would remove any feeling of embarrassment on the part of the wider person because they are clearly only sitting in a wider seat and not the common seats because they can afford to pay the extra. Joy all round. |
Re: Too fat to fly?
Originally Posted by me me
(Post 10986188)
To say that bigger people are being discriminated against because they may have to pay extra for bigger seating, is way off the mark. |
Re: Too fat to fly?
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Some seats do have dividers, and some leg room ;)
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Re: Too fat to fly?
Originally Posted by agoreira
(Post 10986309)
Of course some people are unavoidably fat, but the vast majority are that way because they eat rubbish food and far too much of it, so no sympathy here for those that would have to pay more. I have a history of health problems, none have anything to do with excessive lifestyle, but each time I travel I have to pay extra for insurance and health screening. A good friend is disabled, he can't drive a manual car so has to pay through the nose for an automatic when on holiday. I'm not complaining, he's not complaining, sh1t happens as they say, life ain't always fair, many of us have to pay extra for things, including those that eat all the pies.
***** including those that eat all the pies**** A typical offensive reply. Exacly the purpose of my first comment. " SHAME " |
Re: Too fat to fly?
Surprises me how many complain about seats, space, food etc. on a flight of 2 or 3 hours but quite happily travel on a train or a bus for the same time with the same constraints.:confused:
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Re: Too fat to fly?
Originally Posted by bertibassett
(Post 10986387)
***** including those that eat all the pies****
A typical offensive reply. Exacly the purpose of my first comment. " SHAME " What is offensive is that people without a sense of humour should expect normal people to comply with their daft sense of righteousness. If you're offended by what normal people write in their normal discourse with like minded people, isn't it better not to read on? I don't dispute your right of reply, but people who disagree with you will soon tell you so. And you may not like it. |
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