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missile Feb 9th 2020 10:04 pm

Re: Things you need to do to move to Spain before transition period is over
 

Originally Posted by Chipmonk (Post 12804510)
So you can open a spanish account without being present but can not close said account without presenting yourself with ID in branch where account opened?

Different banks have different rules.

HelenH70 Feb 17th 2020 12:35 am

Re: Things you need to do to move to Spain before transition period is over
 
Ok so I’ve decided that I’m going to move over to Spain (Benalmadena) after I’m married in August 2020. I’ll be able to stay with my son for a while until I get established. My husband will finance me being there and then I can get work and a place etc. My British passport is valid until August 2021 so what are the initial things I would need to do before/after the move. Many thanks to you all but I’m finding it all a minefield at the moment and just want to know exactly what I need to/should do to make it as stress free as possible :)

missile Feb 17th 2020 12:38 am

Re: Things you need to do to move to Spain before transition period is over
 
You do not NEED to do anything other than buy an air ticket. Good luck finding work, hopefully your son will be able to assist.

Chipmonk Feb 17th 2020 12:47 am

Re: Things you need to do to move to Spain before transition period is over
 
One: get your NIE ( it's a number you need for everything. Easy to get)
Two: open spanish bank account
Three: deposit a fairly big amount of money in account ( thousands not hundreds)
Four: get private medical cover
Five: sign on padron ( local population register
Six: Get an appointment to apply for residency
Seven: Pay for appointment
Eight: Get a gestor/ lawyer to help with visit to police for time of appointment and to advise on what papers will be required.

HelenH70 Feb 17th 2020 12:58 am

Re: Things you need to do to move to Spain before transition period is over
 

Originally Posted by missile (Post 12807784)
You do not NEED to do anything other than buy an air ticket. Good luck finding work, hopefully your son will be able to assist.

hi I’ve been told I need to get an NIE? Open a bank account and deposit thousands of pounds not hundreds and get a gestor.... really confused now.

HelenH70 Feb 17th 2020 1:12 am

Re: Things you need to do to move to Spain before transition period is over
 

Originally Posted by Chipmonk (Post 12807787)
One: get your NIE ( it's a number you need for everything. Easy to get)
Two: open spanish bank account
Three: deposit a fairly big amount of money in account ( thousands not hundreds)
Four: get private medical cover
Five: sign on padron ( local population register
Six: Get an appointment to apply for residency
Seven: Pay for appointment
Eight: Get a gestor/ lawyer to help with visit to police for time of appointment and to advise on what papers will be required.

my UK passport expires August 2021 should I renew it before I come to Spain (so I can travel back to UK when necessary)

missile Feb 17th 2020 1:15 am

Re: Things you need to do to move to Spain before transition period is over
 

Originally Posted by HelenH70 (Post 12807788)
hi I’ve been told I need to get an NIE? Open a bank account and deposit thousands of pounds not hundreds and get a gestor.... really confused now.

It depends on exactly what you wish to do.
Only if and when you wish to become resident will you need to …………….
It really is not as difficult as you may think. If your son is resident(?), surely he is the best person to advise and assist you.

missile Feb 17th 2020 1:19 am

Re: Things you need to do to move to Spain before transition period is over
 

Originally Posted by HelenH70 (Post 12807793)
my UK passport expires August 2021 should I renew it before I come to Spain (so I can travel back to UK when necessary)

That would seem sensible. Alternatively, you could pre-arrange an appointment at the office in London to renew your passport before August 2021.

HelenH70 Feb 17th 2020 1:20 am

Re: Things you need to do to move to Spain before transition period is over
 

Originally Posted by missile (Post 12807796)
It depends on exactly what you wish to do.
Only if and when you wish to become resident will you need to …………….
It really is not as difficult as you may think. If your son resident, surely he is the best person to advise and assist you.

thank you for your input. Maybe I’m just thinking it’s a bigger deal now with the UK leaving the eu and that things are going to be different when wanting to move to Spain etc.

missile Feb 17th 2020 2:20 am

Re: Things you need to do to move to Spain before transition period is over
 
Hi,
No worries, I do hope you will enjoy Spain. Take it one step at a time, relish the challenge of your new life.

HelenH70 Feb 17th 2020 2:51 am

Re: Things you need to do to move to Spain before transition period is over
 

Originally Posted by missile (Post 12807851)
Hi,
No worries, I do hope you will enjoy Spain. Take it one step at a time, relish the challenge of your new life.

yes I will thank you. Will my husband be able to come and live over there with me after the Brexit transition period? That’s the impression I’m under. Will I be able to use my UK phone over there? I’m with Vodafone. Thanks for your help

Joppa Feb 17th 2020 3:07 am

Re: Things you need to do to move to Spain before transition period is over
 

Originally Posted by HelenH70 (Post 12807870)
yes I will thank you. Will my husband be able to come and live over there with me after the Brexit transition period? That’s the impression I’m under. Will I be able to use my UK phone over there? I’m with Vodafone. Thanks for your help

Yes, as you are married before 31st December 2020 and you will establish residency before that date (though the actual application can be made up to 30th June 2021). Currently you can roam free with your UK phone. What will happened after this year is anyone's guess, as it depends on any new agreement UK makes with EU.

missile Feb 17th 2020 4:44 am

Re: Things you need to do to move to Spain before transition period is over
 

Originally Posted by HelenH70 (Post 12807870)
Will I be able to use my UK phone over there? I’m with Vodafone. Thanks for your help

Yes you can use your mobile and UK numbers will be same cost as if you were phoning from UK. However if you phone numbers in Spain, you will be cheaper to get a Spanish SIM card. Any good phone shop will fit SIM card for you.

snikpoh Feb 17th 2020 4:46 am

Re: Things you need to do to move to Spain before transition period is over
 

Originally Posted by Chipmonk (Post 12807787)
One: get your NIE ( it's a number you need for everything. Easy to get)
Two: open spanish bank account
Three: deposit a fairly big amount of money in account ( thousands not hundreds)
Four: get private medical cover
Five: sign on padron ( local population register
Six: Get an appointment to apply for residency
Seven: Pay for appointment
Eight: Get a gestor/ lawyer to help with visit to police for time of appointment and to advise on what papers will be required.


I would advise starting the process of exchanging your UK d/l for a Spanish one as soon as possible as well.

Chipmonk Feb 17th 2020 6:06 pm

Re: Things you need to do to move to Spain before transition period is over
 
You talk about finding work in Spain. What exactly did you have in mind? Do you need to work at some point or will your husband be able to support the both of you? Is your husband going to live in spain and work in uk or work and live in spain? These are the questions you should be asking yourself. Work is very difficult to find here even if you speak spanish. It is also different timetable. You often work longer hours( finishing at 8.00pm) and for only about a quarter of what you might earn in uk!!!. 26%of Spanish families now live below the bread line and 30% of graduates are unemployed. So bear this in mind. Also bear in mind that moving within Schengan area ( I think) will be restricted for UK citizens after Brexit ( Well we voted for no freedom of movement!!) so this might affect your husbands work situation.

HelenH70 Feb 17th 2020 11:47 pm

Re: Things you need to do to move to Spain before transition period is over
 

Originally Posted by Chipmonk (Post 12808150)
You talk about finding work in Spain. What exactly did you have in mind? Do you need to work at some point or will your husband be able to support the both of you? Is your husband going to live in spain and work in uk or work and live in spain? These are the questions you should be asking yourself. Work is very difficult to find here even if you speak spanish. It is also different timetable. You often work longer hours( finishing at 8.00pm) and for only about a quarter of what you might earn in uk!!!. 26%of Spanish families now live below the bread line and 30% of graduates are unemployed. So bear this in mind. Also bear in mind that moving within Schengan area ( I think) will be restricted for UK citizens after Brexit ( Well we voted for no freedom of movement!!) so this might affect your husbands work situation.

please don’t take offence but you do come across very negative. I understand totally what your saying, but there are people living in poor conditions in the UK also. My attitude is life is short and you need to embrace it and be as positive as possible.

missile Feb 17th 2020 11:55 pm

Re: Things you need to do to move to Spain before transition period is over
 

Originally Posted by HelenH70 (Post 12808279)
please don’t take offence but you do come across very negative. I understand totally what your saying, but there are people living in poor conditions in the UK also. My attitude is life is short and you need to embrace it and be as positive as possible.

good for you. Follow your dream. Better to try and risk failure than to live in fear of what if …...

Chipmonk Feb 17th 2020 11:58 pm

Re: Things you need to do to move to Spain before transition period is over
 
There is nothing wrong with being positive but it shouldnt be applied as a way dealing with reality. I feel that if you are focusing on questions such as will your uk phone work in spain you might be a long way to getting to grips with moving, living and working in spain.

HelenH70 Feb 18th 2020 12:06 am

Re: Things you need to do to move to Spain before transition period is over
 

Originally Posted by Chipmonk (Post 12808288)
There is nothing wrong with being positive but it shouldnt be applied as a way dealing with reality. I feel that if you are focusing on questions such as will your uk phone work in spain you might be a long way to getting to grips with moving, living and working in spain.

I can see why you’d think this way, but I do know that my phone would work in Spain (well for now anyway with regards to roaming) it was more of wether I’d be able to continue to use Vodafone as my provider. I.e if I can transfer my account to Spain.

Chipmonk Feb 18th 2020 12:14 am

Re: Things you need to do to move to Spain before transition period is over
 
No you cant just keep your account with your provider and become a spanish customer. If this is the kind of thing that stresses you Spain might be a little bit of a shock

HelenH70 Feb 18th 2020 12:17 am

Re: Things you need to do to move to Spain before transition period is over
 

Originally Posted by missile (Post 12808285)
good for you. Follow your dream. Better to try and risk failure than to live in fear of what if …...

thank you exactly, you just never know the minute right? I’m not stressing about my phone as another member said, rather I’m just wondering is all haha

Chipmonk Feb 18th 2020 12:29 am

Re: Things you need to do to move to Spain before transition period is over
 
Helen: You asked what you need to do to get residency here before the end of the transition period. That is pretty much as has been said. It's not too difficult but does involve organising stuff. You wrote " then I will get a job". I just wanted to point out that unless ( and you might be ) you are reasonably qualified in a specific area and speak spanish you will be competing against a large number of people making your chances lower. Many UK expats living on the Costas are retired and so making a living is not something they need to do. You are clearly not retired and therefore I would imagine a job is important to find. So whilst you might not feel it us too difficult to find any work in uk it will be different in spain. Just do a bit more research as you seem to be rushing into something

el collado kid Feb 18th 2020 2:21 am

Re: Things you need to do to move to Spain before transition period is over
 

Originally Posted by HelenH70 (Post 12807788)
hi I’ve been told I need to get an NIE? Open a bank account and deposit thousands of pounds not hundreds and get a gestor.... really confused now.

Hi Helen it seems you are coming to spain, to start the process is not that difficult really unless you have no idea of the process hence the advice above of a gestor
To open bank account just go to the bank of choice with passport, it will be a non resident account,yes that easy
Padron go to town hall ask for a padron take passport and sons address proof of ownership or rental agreement,yes that easy
NIE local police station with passport ask for NIE go to relevant desk i can't remember if you need photos for this it will be on line down load form online pre pay,yes that easy
Residencies best to go with the above and with private health care certificate unless you are a pensioner then pension details
Bank account with statement preferably with transactions completed and with the reliant required amount in account,depends on area. We had a few thousand and 6 months worth of transactions this was accepted
Speaking Spanish will make to process a lot easier
If not sure you can do this your self get a gestor who will guide you with all the paper work and take you and help with process, all with a fee of course
None of the above is to difficult please do not get all over stressed with it all,once you start you will realise its easier than you think
do not forget we are in Spain and not used to the( weather bloody hot) and the process with the right documents of course and you relax, go with the flow and have photocopies of everything oh and photos in triplicate a smile on your face and have all they ask for then no problem at all especially with a little Spanish chat.
Once again if you feel you can not cope get a gestor to help,Just remember it will be all worth it in the end you will i am sure have a great life in Spain as we all do. I hope i may have eased your mind, hope so just think spain can be a great life good luck.GEE this has taken bloody ages to type my two middle fingers have got blisters

HelenH70 Feb 18th 2020 4:08 am

Re: Things you need to do to move to Spain before transition period is over
 

Originally Posted by el collado kid (Post 12808386)
Hi Helen it seems you are coming to spain, to start the process is not that difficult really unless you have no idea of the process hence the advice above of a gestor
To open bank account just go to the bank of choice with passport, it will be a non resident account,yes that easy
Padron go to town hall ask for a padron take passport and sons address proof of ownership or rental agreement,yes that easy
NIE local police station with passport ask for NIE go to relevant desk i can't remember if you need photos for this it will be on line down load form online pre pay,yes that easy
Residencies best to go with the above and with private health care certificate unless you are a pensioner then pension details
Bank account with statement preferably with transactions completed and with the reliant required amount in account,depends on area. We had a few thousand and 6 months worth of transactions this was accepted
Speaking Spanish will make to process a lot easier
If not sure you can do this your self get a gestor who will guide you with all the paper work and take you and help with process, all with a fee of course
None of the above is to difficult please do not get all over stressed with it all,once you start you will realise its easier than you think
do not forget we are in Spain and not used to the( weather bloody hot) and the process with the right documents of course and you relax, go with the flow and have photocopies of everything oh and photos in triplicate a smile on your face and have all they ask for then no problem at all especially with a little Spanish chat.
Once again if you feel you can not cope get a gestor to help,Just remember it will be all worth it in the end you will i am sure have a great life in Spain as we all do. I hope i may have eased your mind, hope so just think spain can be a great life good luck.GEE this has taken bloody ages to type my two middle fingers have got blisters

bless you I know what you mean by middle aged fingers! Thank you ever so much for the sound advice :) I’ll be moving to the Malaga province so will need to check on monetary amounts. Thanks again


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