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tommy.irene May 1st 2014 6:40 am

Re: Telegraph Spain bashing ....... again
 

Originally Posted by me me (Post 11241899)
Mary was a virgin until Jesus was born, but Jesus had an older brother???

How does that work out?

I have never heard of James.

Was he known as Jimmy Christ, brother of Jesus Christ?:lol:




Question: "Did Jesus have brothers and sisters (siblings)?"

Answer: Jesus’ brothers are mentioned in several Bible verses. Matthew 12:46, Luke 8:19, and Mark 3:31 say that Jesus’ mother and brothers came to see Him. The Bible tells us that Jesus had four brothers: James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas (Matthew 13:55). The Bible also tells us that Jesus had sisters, but they are not named or numbered (Matthew 13:56). In John 7:1-10, His brothers go on to the festival while Jesus stays behind. In Acts 1:14, His brothers and mother are described as praying with the disciples. Galatians 1:19 mentions that James was Jesus’ brother. The most natural conclusion of these passages is to interpret that Jesus had actual blood half-siblings.


Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-si...#ixzz30UTgrtKI

rugbymatt May 1st 2014 6:43 am

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No, Jesus didn't have brothers or sisters because..... He's made up.

tommy.irene May 1st 2014 6:55 am

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 11242624)
No, Jesus didn't have brothers or sisters because..... He's made up.

I have to be carefull saying i dont believe in Jesus in Spain..:fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed:

Madridboy May 1st 2014 7:35 am

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 11242624)
No, Jesus didn't have brothers or sisters because..... He's made up.

This is not true, he served me in the supermarket yesterday.

me me May 1st 2014 8:16 am

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Originally Posted by Madridboy (Post 11242688)
This is not true, he served me in the supermarket yesterday.

:rofl::rofl:

Dick Dasterdly May 1st 2014 9:09 am

Re: Telegraph Spain bashing ....... again
 

Originally Posted by Madridboy (Post 11242688)
This is not true, he served me in the supermarket yesterday.

:confused:

Can't have done.
He was fixing new tiles on my terrace all day.

There again they do say he's everywhere at the same time. :unsure:

Sue May 1st 2014 9:10 am

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Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 11242220)
I think the Mods are too heavy handed, shutting one of the longest running threads recently for a bit of namby pamby name calling was pathetic, maybe because the site is Amercian maybe its the way it is there. We don't see it as serious.

I actually feel a bit gutted that Stevies thread has been closed and for him too, very poor.

I went to reply on the 'Learning Spanish' thread yesterday with some advice and that too was closed.

You need to scratch the surface. This isn't just to do with one or two threads. Read here.

Oh and I'm British .. just in case you didn't know. My location has no bearing on my moderation ;)

Please get back on topic or I'll close this too ... (have to keep up my reputation for being heavy handed you know :D)

Madridboy May 1st 2014 9:56 am

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 11242577)
I'm a big fan of Salvados, they go for the jugular, just watched a programme about help available for the old, disabled etc, (more accurately, help not available) absolutely appalling. Kudos to Jordi Évole for his report. I'd rather have a few fiddling the system in UK than the thousands in Spain that have been getting from very little to absolutely nothing. I feel for the people concerned.
http://www.atresplayer.com/televisio...042500361.html

Also a big fan of Salvados......Equipo de investigacion is also another good one from Atresmedia


Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 11242771)
:confused:

Can't have done.
He was fixing new tiles on my terrace all day.

There again they do say he's everywhere at the same time. :unsure:

This is why Spain is still in recession.....that bloody Jesús has got all the jobs!.....maybe Hacienda could take a look into this. :)

Domino May 1st 2014 10:09 am

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 11242624)
No, Jesus didn't have brothers or sisters because..... He's made up.

then why is he regarded as a prophet by the Muslim religion
:confused:

Domino May 1st 2014 10:12 am

Re: Telegraph Spain bashing ....... again
 

Originally Posted by tommy.irene (Post 11242622)
Question: "Did Jesus have brothers and sisters (siblings)?"

Answer: Jesus’ brothers are mentioned in several Bible verses. Matthew 12:46, Luke 8:19, and Mark 3:31 say that Jesus’ mother and brothers came to see Him. The Bible tells us that Jesus had four brothers: James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas (Matthew 13:55). The Bible also tells us that Jesus had sisters, but they are not named or numbered (Matthew 13:56). In John 7:1-10, His brothers go on to the festival while Jesus stays behind. In Acts 1:14, His brothers and mother are described as praying with the disciples. Galatians 1:19 mentions that James was Jesus’ brother. The most natural conclusion of these passages is to interpret that Jesus had actual blood half-siblings.


Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-si...#ixzz30UTgrtKI

ISTR that Joseph was much older than Mary - second marriage ??

Mitzyboy May 1st 2014 11:00 am

Re: Telegraph Spain bashing ....... again
 

Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 11242220)
I think the Mods are too heavy handed, shutting one of the longest running threads recently for a bit of namby pamby name calling was pathetic, maybe because the site is Amercian maybe its the way it is there. We don't see it as serious.

I actually feel a bit gutted that Stevies thread has been closed and for him too, very poor.

I went to reply on the 'Learning Spanish' thread yesterday with some advice and that too was closed.

I'm only aware of one thread that was closed and that was because the posters within it refused to listen to repeated and numerous polite requests to stop calling each other silly names and making personal attacks. So, if you call us wasting our time doing that heavy handed, then you are right.

If people debated the issues without sniping at each other then it wouldnt happen, so dont blame the mods

You reap what you sow

rugbymatt May 1st 2014 7:18 pm

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Originally Posted by Domino (Post 11242831)
then why is he regarded as a prophet by the Muslim religion
:confused:

Really have no idea what this comment has to do with the price of fish Dom but top trolling all the same.

Maybe1day May 1st 2014 7:25 pm

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Originally Posted by Domino (Post 11242831)
then why is he regarded as a prophet by the Muslim religion
:confused:

It was a politically correct thing to do at the time and a shrewd move to get those of the book behind him too, (The Bible). Obviously If you consider Jesus as a religious nullity then the Muslim faith fails on the same grounds, ipso facto.
As for the existence of the guy who was called Jesus, there are some contemporary references to Jesus only during the last year of his life by the Roman annalists Eusebius and Josephus (excuse my spelling) This is fact, the documents exist. Before the last year of his life there appears to be no contemporary documentary reference to Jesus. Only with the appearance of Saul of Tarsus (Paul) does the invention start around 70AD and this was enlarged upon for the next 150 yrs. In 399 AD at Nicea the final touches of the early RC church were contrived and spread as fact or dogma.
M

agoreira May 1st 2014 7:31 pm

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Originally Posted by Madridboy (Post 11242812)
Also a big fan of Salvados......Equipo de investigacion is also another good one from Atresmedia

Ta, haven't seen that, but also enjoy a bit of Comando Actualidad for what is actually happening in Spain, rather than someone telling us a few busy bars in Madrid means the country is booming. Some very different, very sad stories in those programmes.

EMR May 1st 2014 8:30 pm

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Why do some of you find it so hard to accept that things are slowly getting better.
Maybe we the general economy will never return to the heady days of 2006-7 but is that such a bad thing when you consider how the global boom was financed.
Stop looking back so far and start to see that today was better than yesterday and tomorrow could see another improvement.


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