Tea Party Hate
Nov 10th 2013, 7:59 am
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Tea Party Hate
I was sent this extreme article from a Tea Party sympathizer. If this is mainstream we must be very frightened! http://www.westernjournalism.com/war-lets-face-facts/
Nov 10th 2013, 8:50 am
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Re: Tea Party Hate
I was sent this extreme article from a Tea Party sympathizer. If this is mainstream we must be very frightened! http://www.westernjournalism.com/war-lets-face-facts/
Anyway, anyone who says 'comprised of' needn't be taken too seriously...
Nov 10th 2013, 9:23 am
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the one statement that I can agree with is
We can no longer afford to compromise with those who seek the destruction of our way of life.
Nov 11th 2013, 8:51 am
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Talking of the "greatest country in the world", this amused me.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=519391488155695
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=519391488155695
Nov 11th 2013, 9:48 am
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Re: Tea Party Hate
Our way of life in W.Eu.is less than perfect, same as in the US as Ag's link suggests.
For sure none of those who oppose us at present have anything better to offer and should be resisted, yet the question arises is our way of life still improving as a result of today's materialistic developed society and generally improving living conditions, or are we now going backwards in some respects by turning into a world of uncaring robotic beings and losing sight of many of the things that should matter most ?
Many believe that the Chinese will soon be the totally dominant power Worldwide and eventually we will be little more than one of their colonies, in which case I would imagine that the above mentioned process will continue to be the order of the day, only more so and the Tea party for what it was ever worth, will be long forgotten.
For better or for worse in fifty or a hundred years time ?
Nov 11th 2013, 10:13 am
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I think we're getting ever closer to the state of affairs described in this quote about the decline of the Roman Empire - some of the similarities between our situation today and then, particularly regarding taxation, are almost uncanny:-
"In contrast with the declining empire theories, historians such as Arnold J. Toynbee and James Burke argue that the Roman Empire itself was a rotten system from its inception, and that the entire Imperial era was one of steady decay of institutions founded in Republican times. In their view, the Empire could never have lasted longer than it did without radical reforms that no Emperor could implement. The Romans had no budgetary system and thus wasted whatever resources they had available. The economy of the Empire was a Raubwirtschaft or plunder economy based on looting existing resources rather than producing anything new. The Empire relied on riches from conquered territories (this source of revenue ending, of course, with the end of Roman territorial expansion) or on a pattern of tax collection that drove small-scale farmers into destitution (and onto a dole that required even more exactions upon those who could not escape taxation), or into dependency upon a landed élite exempt from taxation. With the cessation of tribute from conquered territories, the full cost of their military machine had to be borne by the citizenry.
An economy based upon slave labor precluded a middle class with buying power. The Roman Empire produced few exportable goods. Material innovation, whether through entrepreneurialism or technological advancement, all but ended long before the final dissolution of the Empire. Meanwhile the costs of military defense and the pomp of Emperors continued. Financial needs continued to increase, but the means of meeting them steadily eroded. In the end, due to economic failure, even the armor and weaponry of soldiers became so obsolete that the enemies of the Empire had better armor and weapons as well as larger forces. The decrepit social order offered so little to its subjects that many saw the barbarian invasion as liberation from onerous obligations to the ruling class."
"In contrast with the declining empire theories, historians such as Arnold J. Toynbee and James Burke argue that the Roman Empire itself was a rotten system from its inception, and that the entire Imperial era was one of steady decay of institutions founded in Republican times. In their view, the Empire could never have lasted longer than it did without radical reforms that no Emperor could implement. The Romans had no budgetary system and thus wasted whatever resources they had available. The economy of the Empire was a Raubwirtschaft or plunder economy based on looting existing resources rather than producing anything new. The Empire relied on riches from conquered territories (this source of revenue ending, of course, with the end of Roman territorial expansion) or on a pattern of tax collection that drove small-scale farmers into destitution (and onto a dole that required even more exactions upon those who could not escape taxation), or into dependency upon a landed élite exempt from taxation. With the cessation of tribute from conquered territories, the full cost of their military machine had to be borne by the citizenry.
An economy based upon slave labor precluded a middle class with buying power. The Roman Empire produced few exportable goods. Material innovation, whether through entrepreneurialism or technological advancement, all but ended long before the final dissolution of the Empire. Meanwhile the costs of military defense and the pomp of Emperors continued. Financial needs continued to increase, but the means of meeting them steadily eroded. In the end, due to economic failure, even the armor and weaponry of soldiers became so obsolete that the enemies of the Empire had better armor and weapons as well as larger forces. The decrepit social order offered so little to its subjects that many saw the barbarian invasion as liberation from onerous obligations to the ruling class."
Nov 11th 2013, 11:01 am
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I think we're getting ever closer to the state of affairs described in this quote about the decline of the Roman Empire - some of the similarities between our situation today and then, particularly regarding taxation, are almost uncanny:-
"In contrast with the declining empire theories, historians such as Arnold J. Toynbee and James Burke argue that the Roman Empire itself was a rotten system from its inception, and that the entire Imperial era was one of steady decay of institutions founded in Republican times. In their view, the Empire could never have lasted longer than it did without radical reforms that no Emperor could implement. The Romans had no budgetary system and thus wasted whatever resources they had available. The economy of the Empire was a Raubwirtschaft or plunder economy based on looting existing resources rather than producing anything new. The Empire relied on riches from conquered territories (this source of revenue ending, of course, with the end of Roman territorial expansion) or on a pattern of tax collection that drove small-scale farmers into destitution (and onto a dole that required even more exactions upon those who could not escape taxation), or into dependency upon a landed élite exempt from taxation. With the cessation of tribute from conquered territories, the full cost of their military machine had to be borne by the citizenry.
An economy based upon slave labor precluded a middle class with buying power. The Roman Empire produced few exportable goods. Material innovation, whether through entrepreneurialism or technological advancement, all but ended long before the final dissolution of the Empire. Meanwhile the costs of military defense and the pomp of Emperors continued. Financial needs continued to increase, but the means of meeting them steadily eroded. In the end, due to economic failure, even the armor and weaponry of soldiers became so obsolete that the enemies of the Empire had better armor and weapons as well as larger forces. The decrepit social order offered so little to its subjects that many saw the barbarian invasion as liberation from onerous obligations to the ruling class."
"In contrast with the declining empire theories, historians such as Arnold J. Toynbee and James Burke argue that the Roman Empire itself was a rotten system from its inception, and that the entire Imperial era was one of steady decay of institutions founded in Republican times. In their view, the Empire could never have lasted longer than it did without radical reforms that no Emperor could implement. The Romans had no budgetary system and thus wasted whatever resources they had available. The economy of the Empire was a Raubwirtschaft or plunder economy based on looting existing resources rather than producing anything new. The Empire relied on riches from conquered territories (this source of revenue ending, of course, with the end of Roman territorial expansion) or on a pattern of tax collection that drove small-scale farmers into destitution (and onto a dole that required even more exactions upon those who could not escape taxation), or into dependency upon a landed élite exempt from taxation. With the cessation of tribute from conquered territories, the full cost of their military machine had to be borne by the citizenry.
An economy based upon slave labor precluded a middle class with buying power. The Roman Empire produced few exportable goods. Material innovation, whether through entrepreneurialism or technological advancement, all but ended long before the final dissolution of the Empire. Meanwhile the costs of military defense and the pomp of Emperors continued. Financial needs continued to increase, but the means of meeting them steadily eroded. In the end, due to economic failure, even the armor and weaponry of soldiers became so obsolete that the enemies of the Empire had better armor and weapons as well as larger forces. The decrepit social order offered so little to its subjects that many saw the barbarian invasion as liberation from onerous obligations to the ruling class."
Europe and the US have for hundreds of years relied on the exploitation of foreign resources, much like the Roman empire. Once this modern form of colonialism ends (read liberal free market capitalism) then everything falls on its head and a new civilisation can be built
Nov 11th 2013, 3:58 pm
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When the West fails I wonder if the new orders will be providing the USA and UK with billions of aid like they have done
...and who first provided all the first slave labour to the West...why the Arabs of course
There are old trading posts and slave caves all over Africa which were run by the Arabs
...and who first provided all the first slave labour to the West...why the Arabs of course
There are old trading posts and slave caves all over Africa which were run by the Arabs
Nov 11th 2013, 4:18 pm
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My son lives in Oklahoma, says he went to a huge gun show in Tulsa on Saturday. There were hillbillies, he said, there were women who seemed to know about guns, lots of hunters, but above all, there were Nazis. Swastikas, pictures of Adolf, memorabilia from the Second World War, the lot.
Perhaps they need to travel more... although not to Spain. Thanks!
Perhaps they need to travel more... although not to Spain. Thanks!
Nov 11th 2013, 4:19 pm
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When the West fails I wonder if the new orders will be providing the USA and UK with billions of aid like they have done
...and who first provided all the first slave labour to the West...why the Arabs of course There are old trading posts and slave caves all over Africa which were run by the Arabs
...and who first provided all the first slave labour to the West...why the Arabs of course
There are old trading posts and slave caves all over Africa which were run by the Arabs
Nov 11th 2013, 4:28 pm
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My son lives in Oklahoma, says he went to a huge gun show in Tulsa on Saturday. There were hillbillies, he said, there were women who seemed to know about guns, lots of hunters, but above all, there were Nazis. Swastikas, pictures of Adolf, memorabilia from the Second World War, the lot.
Perhaps they need to travel more... although not to Spain. Thanks!
Perhaps they need to travel more... although not to Spain. Thanks!
You never heard of all the Nazi groups in Spain
Then there are the Franco facists!Just one example.
http://www.thelocal.es/20130520/neo-...-bottle-attack
Nov 11th 2013, 4:49 pm
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The rise of extremism always seems to happen when things aren't going well. Despite the US stock exchange doing well, your average American is not, and therefore Somebody Must Be To Blame.
It is quite difficult to get a job unless you have a marketable degree. If you have no tertiary education then most jobs pay little more than minimum wage. The good manufacturing jobs are gone. One in seven Americans are on food stamps even if employed because jobs paying barely $8 an hour can't even support one person. Since Citizens United, wealthy donors are able to give vast amounts of money to political campaigns and the government has become more corrupt.
You can rouse the uneducated tea party types to start blaming the poor, minorities and illegal immigrants. Because of course, those are the people with all the power.
Main stream republicans are secretly communists? That must be why they keep taking money away from the poor but continue to give tax breaks and "incentives" (read money) to the corporations.
It is quite difficult to get a job unless you have a marketable degree. If you have no tertiary education then most jobs pay little more than minimum wage. The good manufacturing jobs are gone. One in seven Americans are on food stamps even if employed because jobs paying barely $8 an hour can't even support one person. Since Citizens United, wealthy donors are able to give vast amounts of money to political campaigns and the government has become more corrupt.
You can rouse the uneducated tea party types to start blaming the poor, minorities and illegal immigrants. Because of course, those are the people with all the power.
Main stream republicans are secretly communists? That must be why they keep taking money away from the poor but continue to give tax breaks and "incentives" (read money) to the corporations.
Nov 11th 2013, 6:00 pm
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Here we go...NEXT
Nov 11th 2013, 9:43 pm
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Sorry for the plagiarism...it's getting to be my party piece