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An indoor portable aerial will work, but not as good as an outdoor aerial on the roof.

They need to be positioned precisly and in all the ones I have seen in use DO NOT get the full compliment of digital channels.

A aerial (preferably an outdoor one), possibly a masthead amplifier and power supply (that goes inside and gives power to the amplifier), a TDT receiver / set top box or a TV with TDT built in.

Aerial and amps and tdt boxes are available from most electical sores, even DIQ places like Leroy Merlins.

A TV with the TDT logo on it!
Or ask the assistant if it has TDT abilities!

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Hi again Guy!
A question - when you say 28E, does that mean due East with an altitude of 28 degs...or 28 degs. East of south?

My husband has tried to find the 28E you mentioned by pointing the dish due East and then moving it up & down, but our 'bleeper' does not indicate any other satellites at all. Neither does the TV pick anything up in where he thought the satellite might be.

He has put it back to its original position. This is about 26 degrees East of magnetic South (a guess by hand-held compass) and quite low in the sky.

Here's some more information that might help you to give us advice, this is the information we have about two of our channels.

BBC World: Astra 1 - Freq 11597 - Sym Rate 22000 - Polarity Vertical - Video 0163 - Audio 0092 - PCR 0163

CNN: Astra 1 - Freq 11778 - Sym Rate 27500 - Polarity Vertical - Video 0165 - Audio 0100 - PCR 0165

Hope this helps.

If there is nothing more we can do, sobeit.

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UK TV comes from the astra satellites at 28 degrees east of south

Your dish was originally on 19 degrees east of south - which is wherethe BBC and CNN channels you mention are.

All satellites are located over the equator - where they need to be for their geostationary orbit - so they "point" at the same place on earth all day.

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Thanks again for your help, we'll try agin, sorry to be so thick!

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Does moving the dish affect the doobing of the LNB?

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As The Guy said, the sats are over the equator. What confuses people is the position referred to of 28.5E. That is the position where the sat is overhead and in the case of the Astra sats that is somewhere over Greece.

That means that if you are in Spain (or the UK) you will have to point the dish in the direction of Greece, not just at 28.5E.

In Granada province that means you need to point it at about 45 degrees east not 28.5 degrees which you might assume.

There is an excellent site which will tell you the direction that you need to point the dish at http://www.dishpointer.com/

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You can get indoor aerial and out door aerials.
Outdoor aerials tend to be a lot better than the indoor ones.
Indoor aeral can be used but they require a lot of moving to find the best location, which may still be in a weak area of the house (blocked by walls and concrete) as ideally you need a good line of sigth to the masts for the signal Hence why an aerial on the roof is better than an indoor one.

See post 22 that tells you what you need - aerial, (maybe an amplifer and power supply), and TDT tuner.
The TDT tuner can be a seperate TDT box, or it can be built into a tv.
If it is built into a TV then the TDT logo should be on the TV.
There are 30ish free TDT channels available - depending on your location and what is actually transmiited from the mast you are pointing your aerial to.

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Eh?

You may need to tweek the rotation angle (skew) of the LNB a bit to ensure maximum signal...best to try this on "True Movies" channel - frequency 11642 V 27.5 2/3

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Doobing is double dutch for I couldn't remember the word skew.
Many thanks for that.

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Will a 7000ft high mountain being in line with the dish make any difference to us receiving the satellite signal?

BTW Fred James, we have tried that website you mentioned and our dish is pointing more or less the right way, but still only receiving Astra 1 although we have tried moving the dish.

Others in the area who receive 'the full Monty' have bigger dishes. Maybe this is what we need?

Think we'll have to call someone in.

Thanks everyone for the help to two people who know precisely NOTHING about this. We didn't even have SKY when we were in the UK, just the five terrestrial channels.

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Yes, if the mountain is in the line of sight to the sat you will get no signal. Even a tree will have the same effect.

Check the elevation figure given on that site and try and work out if it will be in the way. It should be around 35 degrees above the horizon.

Where you are you will need a 1.3m dish.

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:thumbsup::):D:D:thumbsup:thumbsup:

We have various English Channels including Sky News and it says it is Astra!
So presumably Astra 2. Did it using information from the link that Fred gave us.

The dish is pointing slightly more to the East than it did before and is tilting slightly further back, so bears out also what Guy told us.

THanks hugely from a pair of satellite TV-phobes!:wub::wub:

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YOu will know if you are getting h the UK version of Sky news as firsty it has the clock at the UK time, and it has UK adverts, and not the "international" version sinfo pages.

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Just one more question please if it is not too much trouble....

When the channels were tuning, my husband noticed BBC Radio channels.

We now can't find them. Should we be able to receive them? It would be great to have Radio 4!

(Sky News clock is one hour behind the clock on our video :thumbup: and it's great to have a couple of Movie channels and also some sport in English:D).

Yay! Thanks a bunch! (Could do with an 'excited' smiley!).

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Thanks Guy for your explanation. There're still 2 more questions. If the TV logo is on the TV, do I still need an aerial whether indoor or outdoor?

If it's an outdoor aerial, how easy is it to install the aerial & has it got to be high up on the roof or can it just be at the bottom corner of the roof?