Swine Flu Vaccination
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Swine Flu Vaccination
I have been reading in our local paper about the Swine Flu vaccination. On 1st September there is a meeting to be held by the health officials concerning the vaccination of all children aged between 3 and 14 years. There are 300,000 jabs for the kids in this age group. They have said in the newspaper that the schools are still on course to reopen after the summer break on 10 September for primary school and 17 September for secondary school. I know you cannot predict what is going to happen at this meeting but my feel of it is that they are planning to innoculate all children before they return to school.
Does anyone else have concerns about this mass vaccination of children. I must admit I do have worries about a new vaccine being used on my kids. If you catch swine flu and have underlying health problems then I believe there is a danger, but my children are all in good health so why the need to have this jab.
Do you think if I refuse the jab for my children they will not be allowed to go back to school? Are there any other areas of Spain taking this route?
Does anyone else have concerns about this mass vaccination of children. I must admit I do have worries about a new vaccine being used on my kids. If you catch swine flu and have underlying health problems then I believe there is a danger, but my children are all in good health so why the need to have this jab.
Do you think if I refuse the jab for my children they will not be allowed to go back to school? Are there any other areas of Spain taking this route?
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Re: Swine Flu Vaccination
I have been reading in our local paper about the Swine Flu vaccination. On 1st September there is a meeting to be held by the health officials concerning the vaccination of all children aged between 3 and 14 years. There are 300,000 jabs for the kids in this age group. They have said in the newspaper that the schools are still on course to reopen after the summer break on 10 September for primary school and 17 September for secondary school. I know you cannot predict what is going to happen at this meeting but my feel of it is that they are planning to innoculate all children before they return to school.
Does anyone else have concerns about this mass vaccination of children. I must admit I do have worries about a new vaccine being used on my kids. If you catch swine flu and have underlying health problems then I believe there is a danger, but my children are all in good health so why the need to have this jab.
Do you think if I refuse the jab for my children they will not be allowed to go back to school? Are there any other areas of Spain taking this route?
Does anyone else have concerns about this mass vaccination of children. I must admit I do have worries about a new vaccine being used on my kids. If you catch swine flu and have underlying health problems then I believe there is a danger, but my children are all in good health so why the need to have this jab.
Do you think if I refuse the jab for my children they will not be allowed to go back to school? Are there any other areas of Spain taking this route?
Do you have information about what vaccination they are proposing? If it's strictly against H1N1? If not, and it's a generic antiviral like Tamiflu, it's not supposed to be used (as I understand it) unless you start to display symptoms - and even then it's not of any specific relevance to Swine Flu. Plus, of course, Tamiflu is reported as having dodgy side-effects for kids.
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Re: Swine Flu Vaccination
I have been reading in our local paper about the Swine Flu vaccination. On 1st September there is a meeting to be held by the health officials concerning the vaccination of all children aged between 3 and 14 years. There are 300,000 jabs for the kids in this age group. They have said in the newspaper that the schools are still on course to reopen after the summer break on 10 September for primary school and 17 September for secondary school. I know you cannot predict what is going to happen at this meeting but my feel of it is that they are planning to innoculate all children before they return to school.
Does anyone else have concerns about this mass vaccination of children. I must admit I do have worries about a new vaccine being used on my kids. If you catch swine flu and have underlying health problems then I believe there is a danger, but my children are all in good health so why the need to have this jab.
Do you think if I refuse the jab for my children they will not be allowed to go back to school? Are there any other areas of Spain taking this route?
Does anyone else have concerns about this mass vaccination of children. I must admit I do have worries about a new vaccine being used on my kids. If you catch swine flu and have underlying health problems then I believe there is a danger, but my children are all in good health so why the need to have this jab.
Do you think if I refuse the jab for my children they will not be allowed to go back to school? Are there any other areas of Spain taking this route?
Theres absolutely no way that I'd let either of my children or any of my family have that jab, NO WAY! its apparently only 25% effective at best and even then, if you're gonna get swine flu badly you still will!!!! Its also documented that the jab can produce side effects that are worse than the flu itself and quite frankly your body should be allowed to meet and become immune to these viruses by itself or you'll never build up any natural immunity to anything. Whoi knows what other toxic chemicals are in these jabs anyway????
In my opinion its just one more way that the pharmaceutical industry can fleece the NHS and eurpean equivelants
Jo xxx
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None of my 5 children have been inoculated for anything, which upset the UK medical profession greatly.
What I really don't understand is that they say that they are going to do it because this winter swine flu will become a pandemic.
This is purely speculation on their parts and given that all the speculation so far has been a wee over dramatic I'll take my chances with mother nature.
I trust her far more than "experts".
However you have a good point about whether the kids will be allowed to go school if they haven't.
What I really don't understand is that they say that they are going to do it because this winter swine flu will become a pandemic.
This is purely speculation on their parts and given that all the speculation so far has been a wee over dramatic I'll take my chances with mother nature.
I trust her far more than "experts".
However you have a good point about whether the kids will be allowed to go school if they haven't.
Last edited by twistedmelon; Aug 22nd 2009 at 3:50 pm.
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Maybe a question to ask at the school?
We have read that persons over a certain age will have been in contact with a variant of the flu sometime in their live. These folks have got some anti bacteria so we seemly do not need jabs.
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Do you have information about what vaccination they are proposing? If it's strictly against H1N1? If not, and it's a generic antiviral like Tamiflu, it's not supposed to be used (as I understand it) unless you start to display symptoms - and even then it's not of any specific relevance to Swine Flu. Plus, of course, Tamiflu is reported as having dodgy side-effects for kids.
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Re: Swine Flu Vaccination
None of my 5 children have been inoculated for anything, which upset the UK medical profession greatly.
What I really don't understand is that they say that they are going to do it because this winter swine flu will become a pandemic.
This is purely speculation on their parts and given that all the speculation so far has been a wee over dramatic I'll take my chances with mother nature.
I trust her far more than "experts".
However you have a good point about whether the kids will be allowed to go school if they haven't.
What I really don't understand is that they say that they are going to do it because this winter swine flu will become a pandemic.
This is purely speculation on their parts and given that all the speculation so far has been a wee over dramatic I'll take my chances with mother nature.
I trust her far more than "experts".
However you have a good point about whether the kids will be allowed to go school if they haven't.
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I've seen it on our local news too - I thought it was a national plan
I'm not too keen on them having the jab, either, & am hoping we can opt out
from all I've read this flu is generally fatal/dangerous only if there is some other compromise to health
I'm not too keen on them having the jab, either, & am hoping we can opt out
from all I've read this flu is generally fatal/dangerous only if there is some other compromise to health
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Re: Swine Flu Vaccination
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Does anyone else have concerns about this mass vaccination of children. I must admit I do have worries about a new vaccine being used on my kids. If you catch swine flu and have underlying health problems then I believe there is a danger, but my children are all in good health so why the need to have this jab.
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Listening to local radio the other night they are starting vaccinations here in a few weeks. The woman on the radio was saying they will be vaccinating the whole Island population - I do not bloody well think so. There is 4 in this family who will definitly not be jabbed. We are all healthy and able to cope with flu.
When we moved here - my daughter who was then 4 was called to the quacks for a checkup, they said she was ready for her next MMR jab, I stated she had never had one before because I had refused it - they called me a silly mother who had forgotten her childs vaccinations - when I asked for the records sent from our Doctors south it had been signed by "A Nurse".
Is this not Drs. falsifying information to the Government on the uptake of vaccinations?
Does anyone else have concerns about this mass vaccination of children. I must admit I do have worries about a new vaccine being used on my kids. If you catch swine flu and have underlying health problems then I believe there is a danger, but my children are all in good health so why the need to have this jab.
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Listening to local radio the other night they are starting vaccinations here in a few weeks. The woman on the radio was saying they will be vaccinating the whole Island population - I do not bloody well think so. There is 4 in this family who will definitly not be jabbed. We are all healthy and able to cope with flu.
When we moved here - my daughter who was then 4 was called to the quacks for a checkup, they said she was ready for her next MMR jab, I stated she had never had one before because I had refused it - they called me a silly mother who had forgotten her childs vaccinations - when I asked for the records sent from our Doctors south it had been signed by "A Nurse".
Is this not Drs. falsifying information to the Government on the uptake of vaccinations?
Last edited by CLR; Aug 22nd 2009 at 5:09 pm. Reason: spelling
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Re: Swine Flu Vaccination
does anyone know anyone in Spain who has been treated for Gripe A? (swine flu)
I'm wondering if they are dishing out tamiflu or paracetamol & rest
I'm wondering if they are dishing out tamiflu or paracetamol & rest
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That was my understanding, hence my earlier question. What was being said about this mass vaccination specifically? The OP obviously took it to mean vaccination against H1N1 so either it was misleading or the Spanish have a march on the rest of the world....
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I wouldn't touch a so-called swine flu vaccination with a very, very long barge pole attached to another very, very long barge pole, let alone exposing it to kids! It hasn't been sufficiently tested and its short- and long-term effects are unknown, especially on children.
More people across the world have DIED from this supposed vaccination than the actual virus it is supposed to protect against. There is evidence that the vaccination could actually trigger the brain disorder Guillain-Barre Syndrome which attacks the nervous system causing paralysis and breathing difficulties, often fatally. It has been withdrawn in the United States after 500 cases of GBS were detected. A previous immunisation programme in the Seventies against a previous swine flu outbreak was halted when it became apparent that, out of the 40 million who had been vaccinated, one in 80,000 people had come down with GBS. In contrast, just one person died of swine flu.
The human body is a wonderful thing. In the vast majority of cases it will adapt and survive. There's no real ned to pump it full of dangerous cocktails of untested drugs ...
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More people across the world have DIED from this supposed vaccination than the actual virus it is supposed to protect against. There is evidence that the vaccination could actually trigger the brain disorder Guillain-Barre Syndrome which attacks the nervous system causing paralysis and breathing difficulties, often fatally. It has been withdrawn in the United States after 500 cases of GBS were detected. A previous immunisation programme in the Seventies against a previous swine flu outbreak was halted when it became apparent that, out of the 40 million who had been vaccinated, one in 80,000 people had come down with GBS. In contrast, just one person died of swine flu.
The human body is a wonderful thing. In the vast majority of cases it will adapt and survive. There's no real ned to pump it full of dangerous cocktails of untested drugs ...
John C
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leaflet from school
we got a leaflet sent home from school last week - the info in it is all from this website
http://www.antelagripeactua.gva.es/es/
basically - they are treating it more or less as normal seasonal flu, with the caveat that there are more 'risk groups'
it looks like our kids won't have to be vaccinated
http://www.antelagripeactua.gva.es/es/
basically - they are treating it more or less as normal seasonal flu, with the caveat that there are more 'risk groups'
it looks like our kids won't have to be vaccinated