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Mitzyboy May 12th 2007 10:36 pm

The Sunburn Thread
 
Now, being fair skinned and slightly folicly challenged I have encountered a problem in Spain that I had not totally appreciated would be so difficult before I came here.

I only have to be out in the sun for a very short time and I start to burn, although I do get a nice tan the following day. I've tried 30 factor waterproof sun cream, but a 30 min dip in the pool leaves me tingling later in the day.

So what kind of stuff do you lot use. How do you cope with the very strong sunlight. How does the spectre of skin cancer effect your actions?

lynnxa May 12th 2007 10:38 pm

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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 4773213)
Now, being fair skinned and slightly folicly challenged I have encountered a problem in Spain that I had not totally appreciated would be so difficult before I came here.

I only have to be out in the sun for a very short time and I start to burn, although I do get a nice tan the following day. I've tried 30 factor waterproof sun cream, but a 30 min dip in the pool leaves me tingling later in the day.

So what kind of stuff do you lot use. How do you cope with the very strong sunlight. How does the spectre of skin cancer effect your actions?

a neighbour of mine only swims at night:p :eek:

they have lived here for years....both very fair - no tan at all!

better than sunburn

Fuzzlepop May 12th 2007 10:56 pm

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I burn at first then from then on its all tan, once I get the tan I hardly burn. I use factor 12 and it works for me. Although at the start had painful sunburn on legs when I made the switch from sunbathing with trousers on to wearing shorts. :rofl: Just don't go in the pool if you do put more cream on, the waterproof thing is a lie imo. I went in the other day and came out went on balcony in sun then got burnt arms but luckily went overnight.

Right time to go out and and catch some more rays ;)

crispy May 12th 2007 11:02 pm

Re: The Sunburn Thread
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 4773213)
Now, being fair skinned and slightly folicly challenged I have encountered a problem in Spain that I had not totally appreciated would be so difficult before I came here.

I only have to be out in the sun for a very short time and I start to burn, although I do get a nice tan the following day. I've tried 30 factor waterproof sun cream, but a 30 min dip in the pool leaves me tingling later in the day.

So what kind of stuff do you lot use. How do you cope with the very strong sunlight. How does the spectre of skin cancer effect your actions?



Use a higher factor, even a total block and apply it more often. I always ware a baseball cap even when I am swimming as I have burnt my head when in the pool (take it off if swimming underwater and pop it back on after).

OH always where his hat when pottering about in the garden, you would not believe just gardening for 15 mins can cause sunburn of the old bonce if you are a wee bit thin on the ground:p

Mitzyboy May 12th 2007 11:02 pm

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Originally Posted by Fuzzlepop (Post 4773285)
I burn at first then from then on its all tan, once I get the tan I hardly burn. I use factor 12 and it works for me. Although at the start had painful sunburn on legs when I made the switch from sunbathing with trousers on to wearing shorts. :rofl: Just don't go in the pool if you do put more cream on, the waterproof thing is a lie imo. I went in the other day and came out went on balcony in sun then got burnt arms but luckily went overnight.

Right time to go out and and catch some more rays ;)

Trouble is I'm coming to the conclusion I'm getting burned in the pool. I remember in Vegas some years ago staying in the pool to keep cool and I got terrible sunburn, naively not realising it can be worse in the water

crispy May 12th 2007 11:07 pm

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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 4773306)
Trouble is I'm coming to the conclusion I'm getting burned in the pool. I remember in Vegas some years ago staying in the pool to keep cool and I got terrible sunburn, naively not realising it can be worse in the water

As well as the cap you can slip on a thin T-shirt....just a thought

jdr May 12th 2007 11:17 pm

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Originally Posted by crispygirl (Post 4773324)
As well as the cap you can slip on a thin T-shirt....just a thought

I only used cream once and ended up burnt, it gives a false sense of security.
I just go in it for a while then go in the shade, increasing the sun time slowly each time.
I never go white though, so never seem to burn, but I can tell when I have had enough and never overdo it.
Dont forget the rays still go through water, sun shades etc though so be very careful. ;-)

Pam Sarky May 12th 2007 11:19 pm

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My hubby was a work one day listening to the radio. There was an item on skin cancer discribing what the mole looks like if it is cancerous. Hubby then looked at the mole he had on his stomach and decided to get it checked out to put his mind at rest. His doctor had a look at it and told him he didnt think it was anything to worry about but would refer him to a specialist just in case. It a good job he did because it was skin cancer!! They took a biopsy and within a week he was in Christies having half his stomach taken away to make sure it couldnt spread. He had the all clear a few years ago but he is now paranoid about the sun. From now till September he will put factor 30 or above all over then put his hat on and sit in the shade. He then re-applies sun cream about every half hour. In the winter he puts factor 30 on but only once or twice through the day.

When we first met 19 years ago I had a mole on my arm. Benny had just been through his ordeal and noticed this mole. I thought my mole looked quite attractive but he kept mithering me to go to the doctors. The doctor referred me and they took the mole out. The specialist told me there were the very early signs of cancer there but it was so early that I didnt need further surgery. They also said that if I had never had it looked at then there was a chance I could be dead in 5 years!!!! So in my view Benny saved my life, because there was me thinking I had an attractive mole but it could have been deadly.

crispy May 12th 2007 11:27 pm

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Originally Posted by jdr (Post 4773353)
I only used cream once and ended up burnt, it gives a false sense of security.
I just go in it for a while then go in the shade, increasing the sun time slowly each time.
I never go white though, so never seem to burn, but I can tell when I have had enough and never overdo it.
Dont forget the rays still go through water, sun shades etc though so be very careful. ;-)


Where the sun is concerned I am a shrinking violet, I think I must be the only person that had 3 weeks in the Caribbean and came back as white as I went.

The only time I am out in the sun is walking between the house/shop and car, when we go for our late afternoon walk, and just before I dish a meal up (very hot cooking) then on with the cap and in to the pool. I will not even sit outside a bar unless there is some shade, and I still get a tan so just imagine if I was to sit out in it; I have never got sun burn in the four years I have been here except for the once I burnt my head in the pool.

rugbymatt May 12th 2007 11:42 pm

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may I suggest something?

Rosemary May 12th 2007 11:48 pm

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 4773445)
may I suggest something?

To wear or to dance around?????

Rosemary

rachelk May 12th 2007 11:54 pm

Re: The Sunburn Thread
 

Originally Posted by crispygirl (Post 4773382)
I will not even sit outside a bar unless there is some shade, and I still get a tan so just imagine if I was to sit out in it;

Good point. Even when you think you're in the shade you're not completely protected. I try to wear factor 50 at all times (fair skinned and burn easily) but I think the danger is those "oh, i'll only be out for 10 mins" as you go to hang out the washing / nip to the shops etc. Those 10 mins all add up.

julie22 May 12th 2007 11:55 pm

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Mitzyboy - coat your head with tomato ketchup and put on a rubber head cap - it worked for me:thumbsup:

jdr May 12th 2007 11:56 pm

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 4773445)
may I suggest something?

I use one of those Ozzie/jungle type hats, half fill it up with water then put it on your head, excellent cooling system.

jdr May 12th 2007 11:58 pm

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Originally Posted by julie22 (Post 4773502)
Mitzyboy - coat your head with tomato ketchup and put on a rubber head cap - it worked for me:thumbsup:

http://bestsmileys.com/bouncing/5.gif



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rugbymatt May 13th 2007 12:02 am

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like this or have I got it wrong?

jdr May 13th 2007 12:12 am

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 4773529)
like this or have I got it wrong?

Wrong, that would get in the way of me stereo. lol

username 34 May 13th 2007 12:29 am

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use kids brand suncream .... factor 30 on the kids label stuff is much more protective, lasts longer and is very waterproof.

son number 1 tans well so needs a lower factor
son number 2 is a strawberry blonde/redhead, very pale skin and even though he's in the sun every day normally for 4 hours he doesnt ever get burnt (and spends alot if it in the water). The kids suncream really does work very well.

lynnxa May 13th 2007 12:47 am

Re: The Sunburn Thread
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 4773306)
Trouble is I'm coming to the conclusion I'm getting burned in the pool. I remember in Vegas some years ago staying in the pool to keep cool and I got terrible sunburn, naively not realising it can be worse in the water

that's very possible...doesn't the water actually increase the effects of the rays?

Mitzyboy May 13th 2007 12:52 am

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Originally Posted by julie22 (Post 4773502)
Mitzyboy - coat your head with tomato ketchup and put on a rubber head cap - it worked for me:thumbsup:

Touche :D

rugbymatt May 13th 2007 12:54 am

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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 4773679)
Touche :D

or....................toupe?

Mitzyboy May 13th 2007 12:55 am

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 4773691)
or....................toupe?

hair today .... gone tomorrow

rugbymatt May 13th 2007 12:56 am

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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 4773695)
hair today .... gone tomorrow

lets not split hairs here eh?

Mitzyboy May 13th 2007 12:58 am

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 4773700)
lets not split hairs here eh?

well I'm trying to get to the root of the problem
wheres my thread going

Tableland May 13th 2007 1:14 am

Re: The Sunburn Thread
 

Originally Posted by rachelk (Post 4773497)
Good point. Even when you think you're in the shade you're not completely protected. I try to wear factor 50 at all times (fair skinned and burn easily) but I think the danger is those "oh, i'll only be out for 10 mins" as you go to hang out the washing / nip to the shops etc. Those 10 mins all add up.

Yes, it is cumulative, so nipping out in the sun 6 times for 10 minutes through the day is the same as sitting out in it for an hour. You get tanned in the shade because of scattered UV radiation. It has nothing to do with heat, which is infrared radiation. It is determined by atmospheric conditions and proximity to the sun. Both UVA and UVB can cause skin damage, although the former can't pass through glass. A tan without burning is still sun damage and while your tan might fade, the damage remains forever. Always wear a hat and a long-sleeve shirt of a dark material, always wear sunblock factor 30+, and try to avoid the sunniest part of the day (approximately 10:00 - 15:00).

lynnxa May 13th 2007 1:16 am

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Originally Posted by Tableland (Post 4773794)
Yes, it is cumulative, so nipping out in the sun 6 times for 10 minutes through the day is the same as sitting out in it for an hour. You get tanned in the shade because of scattered UV radiation. It has nothing to do with heat, which is infrared radiation. It is determined by atmospheric conditions and proximity to the sun. Both UVA and UVB can cause skin damage, although the former can't pass through glass. A tan without burning is still sun damagem and while your tanmight fade, the damage remans forever. Always wear a hat and a long-sleeve shirt of a dark material, always wear sunblock factor 30+, and try to avoid the sunniest part of the day (approximately 10:00 - 15:00).

actually it gets hotter here from 2 ish

I have quite a deep tan that never seems to really fade, have never burned........don't sunbathe

rugbymatt May 13th 2007 1:17 am

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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 4773713)
well I'm trying to get to the root of the problem
wheres my thread going

hopefully nowhere............


still, if we are not careful, it could get a bit hairy!

lynnxa May 13th 2007 1:20 am

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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 4773713)
well I'm trying to get to the root of the problem
wheres my thread going

matts online

you may never find it again

Tableland May 13th 2007 1:37 am

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Originally Posted by lynnxa (Post 4773808)
actually it gets hotter here from 2 ish

I have quite a deep tan that never seems to really fade, have never burned........don't sunbathe

As mentioned in my first post, it bears little relation to how hot it is. Most people get burned when the temperature is slightly lower for the simple reason that they incorrectly equate burning to heat. Wrong.

lynnxa May 13th 2007 1:39 am

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Originally Posted by Tableland (Post 4773912)
As mentioned in my first post, it bears little relation to how hot it is. Most people get burned when the temperature is slightly lower for the simple reason that they incorrectly equate burning to heat. Wrong.

errm:confused:

I was agreeing with you (except to point out that the hottest time of day is not really as you stated)

Tableland May 13th 2007 1:42 am

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Originally Posted by lynnxa (Post 4773928)
errm:confused:

I was agreeing with you (except to point out that the hottest time of day is not really as you stated)

Sure no problem. That's why I said "sunniest part of the day" and not "hottest" by the way.

lynnxa May 13th 2007 1:51 am

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Originally Posted by Tableland (Post 4773948)
Sure no problem. That's why I said "sunniest part of the day" and not "hottest" by the way.

I was just thinking of mad dogs & englishmen

rachelk May 13th 2007 2:39 am

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Remember that while the sun is directly overhead the UK at 12 midday (GMT), Spain is further west so it's later than that. Add on the fact that spain is an hour ahead in clock time (plus an extra hour for summer time) then the sun is at its strongest here at approx 3pm - dependng on how far east/west you are.

lynnxa May 13th 2007 2:59 am

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Originally Posted by rachelk (Post 4774238)
Remember that while the sun is directly overhead the UK at 12 midday (GMT), Spain is further west so it's later than that. Add on the fact that spain is an hour ahead in clock time (plus an extra hour for summer time) then the sun is at its strongest here at approx 3pm - dependng on how far east/west you are.

actually I live due south of London

the Greenwich mean line goes through Denia/Javea

but the theory is right....I think:blink:

Mitzyboy May 13th 2007 3:03 am

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OK .... so far I have worked out from various threads that I should only go out at night, I should smother myself in tomato sauce and dress in rubberwear. My question is ..... will I ever make any new friends?

rachelk May 13th 2007 3:07 am

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Originally Posted by lynnxa (Post 4774311)
actually I live due south of London

the Greenwich mean line goes through Denia/Javea

but the theory is right....I think:blink:

In that case, the sun is directly overhead at 12 GMT which is 2pm spanish time.

rugbymatt May 13th 2007 3:08 am

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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 4774319)
OK .... so far I have worked out from various threads that I should only go out at night, I should smother myself in tomato sauce and dress in rubberwear. My question is ..... will I ever make any new friends?

I like the way you say new.

Mitzyboy May 13th 2007 3:10 am

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 4774351)
I like the way you say new.

You have a point ..... maybe I'll try brown sauce instead

rugbymatt May 13th 2007 3:11 am

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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 4774358)
You have a point ..... maybe I'll try brown sauce instead

have you heard the one about what FTO owners use for contraception?

Mitzyboy May 13th 2007 3:14 am

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 4774369)
have you heard the one about what FTO owners use for contraception?


NO :frown:


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