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Fredbargate Jul 6th 2011 9:01 pm

Summer !
 
2nd time this week

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Domino Jul 6th 2011 9:10 pm

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is it legal to fly that close to the metal tower ? ?

Fred James Jul 6th 2011 9:13 pm

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That's the new Ryanair plane isn't it?

You know, the one that can dump your luggage straight into the airport car park on the final approach so they can avoid paying baggage handling fees!

Domino Jul 6th 2011 9:30 pm

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Originally Posted by Domino (Post 9480599)
is it legal to fly that close to the metal tower ? ?

OK so you have 2 x Canadair (now Bombardier) CL415 amphibious water bomber's as Spain has 3 you didnt get a full set so no prizes

there are also 14 x CL215's you could get a visit from

Does this mean you have bush fires in your area ??

jimenato Jul 6th 2011 9:34 pm

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Hi Fred. Watched that one last night at about midnight - looked big.:eek: Do you know where it was? Somewhere on a line between Jimena and La Alcaidesa I would guess.

Fredbargate Jul 6th 2011 10:17 pm

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Originally Posted by Domino (Post 9480599)
is it legal to fly that close to the metal tower ? ?

Foreshortened by the teffleyoto lens

Fredbargate Jul 6th 2011 10:20 pm

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Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 9480636)
Hi Fred. Watched that one last night at about midnight - looked big.:eek: Do you know where it was? Somewhere on a line between Jimena and La Alcaidesa I would guess.

Sorry no idea I did not see that one.

Sunday they were picking water up off Puente Mayorga as they are doing this morning.

Todays fire is on the east side of Queen's Chair the hill occupied by the military between the two roads into La Linea.

I have just listened to the GBC lunchtime news, it would appear what you saw last night and I saw this morning are one and the same fire.

Residents of Santa Margarita were evacuated and the Higeuron ( East access to La Linea & Gibraltar ) road was closed.

jdr Jul 6th 2011 11:50 pm

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Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 9480607)
That's the new Ryanair plane isn't it?

You know, the one that can dump your luggage straight into the airport car park on the final approach so they can avoid paying baggage handling fees!

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

jimenato Jul 7th 2011 12:43 am

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 9480711)
Sorry no idea I did not see that one.

Sunday they were picking water up off Puente Mayorga as they are doing this morning.

Todays fire is on the east side of Queen's Chair the hill occupied by the military between the two roads into La Linea.

I have just listened to the GBC lunchtime news, it would appear what you saw last night and I saw this morning are one and the same fire.

Residents of Santa Margarita were evacuated and the Higeuron ( East access to La Linea & Gibraltar ) road was closed.

So I was almost right but it was much further away than I thought - must have been huge.

Triana Jul 7th 2011 1:27 am

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Sunday's fire was really bad - at least 2 planes and 2 helicopters worked for hours from the afternoon onwards to put out the flames, which were huge. The fire reached the edge of the service road alongside the CN341 near Alcaidesa and San Roque Club. as far as I know nobody was hurt. As said above, more fire last night and this morning.

Fredbargate Jul 7th 2011 1:40 am

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Thanks Triana I wondered where Sundays fire was. The planes were flying over us to get water but we could not see the fire. We didn't see any helicopters.

Jur Jul 7th 2011 1:58 am

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It must be so scary to have these fires so close to your home!

Fredbargate Jul 7th 2011 2:57 am

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Originally Posted by Jur (Post 9481147)
It must be so scary to have these fires so close to your home!

Agreed

However I believe I am safe where I am

Jur Jul 7th 2011 3:34 am

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Ah, I thought that was your house in the 1st picture.

jimenato Jul 7th 2011 3:47 am

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Was it all one fire?

ETA silly me - one was Sunday the other Wednesday. Must have been close together though...

Fredbargate Jul 7th 2011 4:11 am

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Originally Posted by Jur (Post 9481320)
Ah, I thought that was your house in the 1st picture.

Granny flat and garage

jdr Jul 7th 2011 4:33 am

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Originally Posted by Jur (Post 9481147)
It must be so scary to have these fires so close to your home!

This was taken a couple of years ago from where we used to live, we now live closer to where the fire was.
It took a while to put out with two helicoptors and a plane.

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EllisG Jul 7th 2011 4:36 am

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They were picking up from Alcaidesa and dumping it about a mile the other side of the casino when I drove down the A7 at 2 ish this afternoon couldn't see any smoke though, 2 planes and 3 helicopters

johnnyone Jul 7th 2011 4:40 am

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Originally Posted by Triana (Post 9481074)
Sunday's fire was really bad - at least 2 planes and 2 helicopters worked for hours from the afternoon onwards to put out the flames, which were huge. The fire reached the edge of the service road alongside the CN341 near Alcaidesa and San Roque Club. as far as I know nobody was hurt. As said above, more fire last night and this morning.

Out of interest and as you have experienced it first hand how well does dropping water from the 'planes in dousing the fires work or are they reliant on ground support by the fire services?

When I've seen it on the telly fighting fires in the USA I struggle to see that it has much effect and looks more of a PR exercise.

EllisG Jul 7th 2011 4:42 am

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it works...depends how strong the fire is though and the wind. Helps if there is a firebreak or some way of limiting it spreading, then letting it burn out on it's own away from where it can do damage....got some excellent pictures of them in action from 2005..pics to follow watch this space once I can locate em

EllisG Jul 7th 2011 4:46 am

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Fredbargate Jul 7th 2011 4:52 am

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Originally Posted by johnnyone (Post 9481470)
Out of interest and as you have experienced it first hand how well does dropping water from the 'planes in dousing the fires work or are they reliant on ground support by the fire services?

When I've seen it on the telly fighting fires in the USA I struggle to see that it has much effect and looks more of a PR exercise.

The helicopter drop picture was taken first, so the second picture does not show much sucess

Estapona August 2002.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...P8250057-1.jpg

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Fred James Jul 7th 2011 5:18 am

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They also can drop red coloured fire retardant powder from a much smaller aircraft.

lyric030250 Jul 7th 2011 5:30 am

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Behind us there was a pink house when we first moved in, it's white again now. Only recently did we find out it was a miss with the retardant !

Fredbargate Jul 7th 2011 8:48 pm

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All day long, nine helicopters and five planes dumped water on the fire in a bid to bring it under control.

http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=22196

I only saw the two planes that were collecting water near me.

EllisG Jul 7th 2011 8:56 pm

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 9482706)
All day long, nine helicopters and five planes dumped water on the fire in a bid to bring it under control.

http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=22196

I only saw the two planes that were collecting water near me.

definitely 2 planes and 3 helicopters...they probably misheard a voicemail message they hacked in to

I must admit I had to look twice at their picture and the third in the series I posted amazingly similar angle ....

jimenato Jul 7th 2011 9:03 pm

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Here's an interesting angle

Sunday's fire


"Everyone knows what's going on here, year after year. They take advantage of the Poniente (Westerly) wind, and when there's a Levante (Easterly), they'll try it on Sierra Carbonera."
Wednesday's fire


This time it was on Sierra Carbonera (as predicted by an onlooker at last week's nearby at La Alcaidesa)

Fredbargate Jul 7th 2011 9:22 pm

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I must admit I was curious as to why they were picking up water near me when the Mediterranean side was closer thereby less flight time although only fractional. With the westerly wind there should no have been a problem on the Med side.
So maybe the airspace was divided for safety.


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