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Re: Sterling in freefall
Originally Posted by steviedeluxe
(Post 8985862)
Ominous noises are coming from Ireland. Hard to tell if this will help or hinder sterling though - apparently UK banks (especially RBS) are heavily exposed to the Irish market. Can the UK govt (ie the taxpayer) afford another massive bailout? Or will failed banks be allowed to go under (unfortunately the UK govt have guaranteed account moneys). I suspect the UK govt will help to bail out Ireland, not through choice but through necessity. Vamos a ver...
An Irish crisis and a British nightmare By Philip Stephens Published: November 22 2010 19:45 | Last updated: November 22 2010 19:45 http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5b9f2dbe-f...#axzz16IYSKaq7 |
Re: Sterling in freefall
Originally Posted by Checkala
(Post 8967399)
A reflection of my own thoughts! Firstly can I suggest you Google for a short video called "Money As Debt".!
Watching that is an eye opener. The whole system needs to have a radical overhaul if we are to get out of this mes. It is nearly 50 mins long but worth it. |
Re: Sterling in freefall
Originally Posted by Casa Santo Estevo
(Post 9003821)
Watching that is an eye opener. The whole system needs to have a radical overhaul if we are to get out of this mes.
It is nearly 50 mins long but worth it. I do look forward to other opinions and points of view. |
Re: Sterling in freefall
Originally Posted by Checkala
(Post 9003944)
I'm glad you watched it. I had forgotten that it was that long! I do encourage anyone reading this to earmark the time to watch it also. It's worth the effort. Ask yourself who governs the country - the elected government or the banks? How come the banks call the tune after destroying so many lives? There is only one answer - Money is Power. When we can't trust our rulers where should we turn?
I do look forward to other opinions and points of view. I agree that the dice are loaded in the banks favour. And I can only see one way out - a bloody revolution, which I can't see happening unless people begin to go without food and seeing their family members die. We are going back to the time of millionaires and serfs, just like in Victorian times. Look at the conservative cabinet, all but two are millionaires - and almost all of them were born millionaires. So much for social mobility! Real democracy and power to the masses has always been an illusion but it seems that "they" were using cheap credit and mountains of debt as a smokescreen with which to appease the mass population and mask the real reasons political decisions are made. I sense a new dark ages, culturally it has already started and tecnologically and economically it may be on the horizon :( |
Re: Sterling in freefall
Originally Posted by cricketman
(Post 9003958)
Yes I watched it a few months ago.
I agree that the dice are loaded in the banks favour. And I can only see one way out - a bloody revolution, which I can't see happening unless people begin to go without food and seeing their family members die. We are going back to the time of millionaires and serfs, just like in Victorian times. Look at the conservative cabinet, all but two are millionaires - and almost all of them were born millionaires. So much for social mobility! Real democracy and power to the masses has always been an illusion but it seems that "they" were using cheap credit and mountains of debt as a smokescreen with which to appease the mass population and mask the real reasons political decisions are made. I sense a new dark ages, culturally it has already started and tecnologically and economically it may be on the horizon :( I was just using the same metaphor with my OH. I said these are the new 'Feudal'days . Watching the telly this morning I saw students rioting. It's true that we've mortgaged their future and are asking kids to pay for our greed. In my youth anyone could be socially and intellectually mobile. This is the only fair way. Anyone should be able to choose to educate themselves and work their way up. I feel the faint rumblings of red anarchy in my pale pink soul! |
Re: Sterling in freefall
Originally Posted by cricketman
(Post 9003958)
Yes I watched it a few months ago.
I agree that the dice are loaded in the banks favour. And I can only see one way out - a bloody revolution, which I can't see happening unless people begin to go without food and seeing their family members die. We are going back to the time of millionaires and serfs, just like in Victorian times. Look at the conservative cabinet, all but two are millionaires - and almost all of them were born millionaires. So much for social mobility! Real democracy and power to the masses has always been an illusion but it seems that "they" were using cheap credit and mountains of debt as a smokescreen with which to appease the mass population and mask the real reasons political decisions are made. I sense a new dark ages, culturally it has already started and tecnologically and economically it may be on the horizon :( A totally new way of thinking is needed. As I watch English TV from here it seems that virtually every programme contains confrontational material. Politics is confrontational. Interviews nearly always involve a degree of confontation. Police handling of demonstators is no different. Somehow we have been educated or perhaps brainwashed into losing interest if there isn't some form of agressive arguement which no one ever wins. Alternatively the object of the "game" is to ridicule one's fellow man (or woman). Completely new ways of thinking are needed. I start from the point of view that we all have a right to be heard and considered. There needs to be a universal search for truth. There is too much secrecy in government - in fact so much that I am doubtful as to if even the prime minister has access to all of it. Please take a blank sheet of paper in your mind and without ANY preconceived ideas explore David Ick'e web site. Easy to find with Google. Some condemn him for "way out" views and indeed for years he was a laughing stock. Today he travels all over the world to bring a very simple message. It's not religious clap trap! I'm just saying "Give him a hearing" at his web site and come back with your thoughts! Looking forward to your reactions especially if you've never heard what he has to say. |
Re: Sterling in freefall
Originally Posted by Checkala
(Post 9004032)
Please take a blank sheet of paper in your mind and without ANY preconceived ideas explore David Ick'e web site. Easy to find with Google. Some condemn him for "way out" views and indeed for years he was a laughing stock. Today he travels all over the world to bring a very simple message. It's not religious clap trap! I'm just saying "Give him a hearing" at his web site and come back with your thoughts!
Looking forward to your reactions especially if you've never heard what he has to say. Wikipedia: Icke was a well-known BBC television sports presenter and spokesman for the Green Party, when he had an encounter in 1990 with a psychic who told him that he was a healer placed on Earth for a purpose.[4] In April 1991 he announced on the BBC's Terry Wogan show that he was the son of God, and predicted that the world would soon be devastated by tidal waves and earthquakes.[5] The show changed his life, turning him practically overnight from a respected household name into an object of ridicule.[6] He continued nevertheless to develop his ideas, and in four books published over seven years—The Robots' Rebellion (1994), And the Truth Shall Set You Free (1995), The Biggest Secret (1999), and Children of the Matrix (2001)—set out a moral and political worldview that combines New-Age spiritualism with a passionate denunciation of what he sees as totalitarian trends in the modern world. At the heart of his theories lies the idea that a secret group of reptilian humanoids called the Babylonian Brotherhood controls humanity, and that many prominent figures are reptilian, including George W. Bush, Queen Elizabeth II, Kris Kristofferson, and Boxcar Willie.[7] Thanks for that, very illuminating |
Re: Sterling in freefall
Originally Posted by Mitzyboy
(Post 9004361)
David Icke ... yes ... I remember him
At the heart of his theories lies the idea that a secret group of reptilian humanoids called the Babylonian Brotherhood controls humanity, and that many prominent figures are reptilian, including George W. Bush, Queen Elizabeth II, Kris Kristofferson, and Boxcar Willie.[7] Thanks for that, very illuminating Maybe this Icke dude is smarter than we realise :p |
Re: Sterling in freefall
Originally Posted by DownUnderPaddy
(Post 9004586)
I have no problem believing that G Dubya Bush is in fact a reptilian humanoid !!
Maybe this Icke dude is smarter than we realise :p |
Re: Sterling in freefall
Originally Posted by Mitzyboy
(Post 9004361)
David Icke ... yes ... I remember him
Wikipedia: Icke was a well-known BBC television sports presenter and spokesman for the Green Party, when he had an encounter in 1990 with a psychic who told him that he was a healer placed on Earth for a purpose.[4] In April 1991 he announced on the BBC's Terry Wogan show that he was the son of God, and predicted that the world would soon be devastated by tidal waves and earthquakes.[5] The show changed his life, turning him practically overnight from a respected household name into an object of ridicule.[6] He continued nevertheless to develop his ideas, and in four books published over seven years—The Robots' Rebellion (1994), And the Truth Shall Set You Free (1995), The Biggest Secret (1999), and Children of the Matrix (2001)—set out a moral and political worldview that combines New-Age spiritualism with a passionate denunciation of what he sees as totalitarian trends in the modern world. At the heart of his theories lies the idea that a secret group of reptilian humanoids called the Babylonian Brotherhood controls humanity, and that many prominent figures are reptilian, including George W. Bush, Queen Elizabeth II, Kris Kristofferson, and Boxcar Willie.[7] Thanks for that, very illuminating See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nMq6gc1yMg David rather speaks of an "infinite conciousness" and says that we are ALL part of that conciousness. It is so easy to misquote and poke fun. Wogan was much more respectful later! See page 36 of David's book entitled Human Race Get of Your Knees |
Re: Sterling in freefall
Why do anti-establishment posts can hijacked by spirituality and conspiracy theory nuts?
Spirituality is the lowest of the low, the refuge of the illiterate, even worse than mainstream religion. :thumbdown: Think for yourself! And if you're not capable of that, go watch X-factor or something |
Re: Sterling in freefall
Originally Posted by Checkala
(Post 9004984)
Actually David did not say he was "the son of god". It was Wogan who said that!
See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nMq6gc1yMg Anyways, I guess we'd better get back on topic ....... this is way off :D |
Re: Sterling in freefall
Originally Posted by cricketman
(Post 9005002)
Why do anti-establishment posts can hijacked by spirituality and conspiracy theory nuts?
Spirituality is the lowest of the low, the refuge of the illiterate, even worse than mainstream religion. :thumbdown: Think for yourself! And if you're not capable of that, go watch X-factor or something 1. Do you REALLY believe that that anything that can't be seen or that behaves in inexplicable ways is "the lowest of the low"? If everyone adopted that attitude there would be no scientific progress! You have only to look at the then crazy ideas of Einstein and Niels Bohr in the early 1900s to realise this. 2. You first line isn't English! Did you use the word illiterate? 3. On what grounds do you respect the "establishment" view. Does it have a God given right to be respected? |
Re: Sterling in freefall
I believe that the hand of God is pushing up the pound against the Euro, but that’s about as much comment I can make without tripping into La-la land, as well.
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Re: Sterling in freefall
ENOUGH now please :D
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