steviedeluxe

A little surprising, considering we're told a lot are leaving to find work elsewhere. Even more curious, is that the numbers of Romanians at 895,970 is up 3.5%. Are things really that bad in Eastern Europe?

http://www.typicallyspanish.com/news...le_34417.shtml

cricketman

As I've already said, not that many Spaniards are leaving to find work elsewhere

In 2011, 300,000 people left Spain and about 280,000 arrived. But out of the 300,000 that left, only 28,000 were Spanish, and 8,000 Spaniards came back

So there was a net migration of 20,000 Spaniards last year. A very low number

I guess the increase in population must be down to a mini-baby boom (often happens in times of depression) or just an adjustment in the calculations

Spanishbrick

8,000 Spaniards (out of 28,000) coming back after trying lack abroad is a high rate. To adapt abroad it not easy.

The increase of Rumanians is also a surprise. I am not sure how bad is the situation exactly in Rumania but currently in neighbour countries like Macedonia and Bulgaria the situation is very bad... even worst than in Spain.

Rumanians seem to adapt quite well in Spain and also they learn very quick the language ... and they seem to work hard.

steviedeluxe

Yes, I met a fair few hard-working Rumanians in Madrid. They tend to get tarred by the very small minority of, shall we say, street-artists.

mikelincs

Also you get an increase due to babies born to immigrants who come from places where the neonatal death rate is high, they are used to having large numbers of children to take into account those that will die as children. This can also be seen in the huge numbers of children in trouble in Africa, the west has given them much better medicine and health care so babies survive a lot better, but there hasn't been a similar decrese in the number of babies born, so there is a large population increase, leading to famine etc, this would happen even without drought to make things worse.

jackytoo

The charities have a weird sense of logic...save the children but they die as teenagers if they have simple problems like being a diabetic etc. They are forgotten

jackytoo

We had a Romanian gardener, recommended by our neighbour who employed a few in his chiringuito. he said he could employ 2 Romanians for the price of one spaniard.