Originally Posted by HBG (Post 10109808)

I don't like to take sides, but that was funny.

Originally Posted by bobd22 (Post 10109772)

Yes shows no matter what country you can't trust any politicians yesterday Spain's denied this was going to happen although everyone knew it would. I wonder now what the other "piigs" will think of Spain being bailed out differently and allegedly without the onerous conditions they have/are having to apply. Does anyone think this will end the rot? interesting if scary times

Originally Posted by HBG (Post 10109848)

Spain is bigger than Greece, Portugal and Ireland put together. It was always thought that if Spain needed a bail-out, it would be the end of the Eurozone.

UKIP might start clapping, but they've got the brains of a rocking horse. Germany holds the key, and if they had a referendum, they'd be out of the Eurozone like a shot.

European countries have been at war with each other for thousands of years; a fat Kraut, Kohl, and an aquisient Frenchman, Mitterand, tried to change things, a noble gesture.

It looks like they've failed. We're back to square one. Skint.

Originally Posted by HBG (Post 10109365)

Sometimes it helps to 'integrate' a little with your neighbours.

For the past couple of weeks my Doberman has been concentrating on one corner of the garden at the rear, a place he used to ignore because it didn't pose much of a threat. It got so bad, he ignored the front, which does pose a threat, and went straight round the back, then coming back to get me to have a look.

It's a corner where high walls meet and you can't see into the neighbour's garden, but I couldn't see anything suspicious, yet the Doberman wouldn't leave the spot.

Earlier today I found out why. The elderly man who lived there alone was found dead today, and he had been dead for at least three weeks.

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 10109859)

The world is skint. I will happily put money on the fact that within 3 years we will see things unravel in China in a massive way. The world has been living beyond its means for generations, the end came after the second world war and we never went back to how things were, how things had been and how things worked.
Still, on a plus side Germany has been victorious in Europe tonight, let the good tanks roll! (Yeah, I did nick that Flanny, and?)

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 10109818)

Its OK, despite outward appearances Steve has a pretty good sense of humour really.

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10109917)

That doesn't show you up in a good light as being a very good neighbour HBG, unless there was more to it of course.

If my Spanish neighbours even go as much as 24 hours without seeing me when they think I'm on my own, they're straight around checking to see if I'm OK.

Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 10110176)

I will just have to take your word for that..................


didnt you just give him a backhanded compliment, meaning:

despite appearing to be an anal, miserable barsteward, he is actually not.....

Originally Posted by johnnyone (Post 10110124)

I don't believe things were particularly good before the second world war unless you were wealthy. I am glad I am here now rather than there then.

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 10110293)

Really? Were people screwing themselves to death with credit card debt just to buy food from a super market, only to throw two thirds of it away and start the whole cycle the next day? The war changed our farming and shopping practices beyond the tipping point and the result is the rampant consumerism that has ruined life for so many.

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10110305)

Wonder if I got out the wrong side of bed today, you just made two successive posts with which I agree entirely. :confused:

It's all very worrying. :ohmy:

Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 10109784)

I dont think there will be many Ferraris available in Madrid, the Tefl teachers have snapped them up.:rofl::rofl:

Originally Posted by Lynn R (Post 10110384)

In Sevilla last November, we saw an old man on the pavement making ashtrays and coasters out of old soft drink cans and selling them at 1€ each. His sign read "I want to buy a chalet in Marbella and a Ferrari - I just need a little help". We had to laugh, so we bought one!