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MartinAnt Aug 30th 2015 12:13 am

Smug and superior
 
I recall years ago, on one particular Med holiday, having a few beers with my mates and talking to a group of English who were over for the season doing various jobs to keep them afloat. After an hour or so they left and one of them said would we like to come, but the others objected and said that we could not come because we were not workers. I thought, what a bunch of smug and superior wan***s. In fact that kind of attitude was very obvious amongst the expat workers - the belief that they were in the club and the tourists were just a bunch of wanabies and unworthy. I also recall the time when I started out in IT. I knew very little, yet some of those with the knowledge were very reluctant to pass it on, because passing on that knowledge reduced their currency if everyone else knew what they did.


I can't help but wonder if this site suffers in the same way.

bobd22 Aug 30th 2015 12:20 am

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You will still certainly meet people like that still Unfortunately.

Dondurma Aug 30th 2015 1:11 am

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Originally Posted by MartinAnt (Post 11736335)
I recall years ago, on one particular Med holiday, having a few beers with my mates and talking to a group of English who were over for the season doing various jobs to keep them afloat. After an hour or so they left and one of them said would we like to come, but the others objected and said that we could not come because we were not workers. I thought, what a bunch of smug and superior wan***s. In fact that kind of attitude was very obvious amongst the expat workers - the belief that they were in the club and the tourists were just a bunch of wanabies and unworthy. I also recall the time when I started out in IT. I knew very little, yet some of those with the knowledge were very reluctant to pass it on, because passing on that knowledge reduced their currency if everyone else knew what they did.


I can't help but wonder if this site suffers in the same way.

Whilst there's knobheads in every walk of life I find it very unfair to label this entire sites membership in such a manner.

There are very many helpful knowledgable members who enthusiastically pass on quality advice and offer assistance.

As a novice myself I can certainly say I have learned and been helped by using this forum

Rosemary Aug 30th 2015 1:16 am

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You will always meet people like that in all walks of life whether it is in person or on the internet. The vast majority of members on the Spanish forum try to be helpful and endeavour to provide accurate information whenever possible. In my opinion they are not behaving in the manner that you are describing but are answering your question honestly.

We all experience Spain in different ways. I always say that very few people on here would like to live life in the way that I do and likewise I would not want to live their lives. We are all different with various likes and dislikes, values, needs and wants so it is impossible to give definitive answers to all questions.

Spain is a wonderful place to live but it is also very frustrating because the answer to a lot of questions is "it depends on the province that you live". A classic example of this is the car tax because each town sets their own charge.

What you are seeing as smug and superior is in fact people being cautious about giving the wrong information and also avoiding being shouted down by others who would not or could not envisage life without certain so called necessities.

Rosemary

amideislas Aug 30th 2015 2:34 am

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Originally Posted by MartinAnt (Post 11736335)
I recall years ago, on one particular Med holiday, having a few beers with my mates and talking to a group of English who were over for the season doing various jobs to keep them afloat. After an hour or so they left and one of them said would we like to come, but the others objected and said that we could not come because we were not workers. I thought, what a bunch of smug and superior wan***s. In fact that kind of attitude was very obvious amongst the expat workers - the belief that they were in the club and the tourists were just a bunch of wanabies and unworthy. I also recall the time when I started out in IT. I knew very little, yet some of those with the knowledge were very reluctant to pass it on, because passing on that knowledge reduced their currency if everyone else knew what they did.


I can't help but wonder if this site suffers in the same way.

You asked for advice, lots of people gave you some very good answers, and even helped qualify those answers.

I realise you're new around here, but if you believe what you received was "smug and superior", then you obviously haven't yet met a few of our finest. Lucky for you, they haven't found you yet.

scrubbedexpat095 Aug 30th 2015 2:49 am

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Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 11736420)
You asked for advice, lots of people gave you some very good answers, and even helped qualify those answers.

I realise you're new around here, but if you believe what you received was "smug and superior", then you obviously haven't yet met a few of our finest. Lucky for you, they haven't found you yet.

LOL :goodpost:

MartinAnt Aug 30th 2015 2:50 am

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Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 11736420)

I realise you're new around here, .


See what I mean - patronising and superior.

scrubbedexpat095 Aug 30th 2015 3:08 am

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Originally Posted by MartinAnt (Post 11736426)
See what I mean - patronising and superior.

Smug :- having or showing an excessive pride in oneself or one's achievements.
Patronising :- treat with an apparent kindness which betrays a feeling of superiority.

I fail to see how Ami's answer was either of those, so I guess your just trolling for the fun of it :yawn:

MartinAnt Aug 30th 2015 3:22 am

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Originally Posted by mfh (Post 11736435)
Smug :- having or showing an excessive pride in oneself or one's achievements.
Patronising :- treat with an apparent kindness which betrays a feeling of superiority.

I fail to see how Ami's answer was either of those, so I guess your just trolling for the fun of it :yawn:

I did not say smug, I said patronising and superior, which I think fits. The reference to my being "new" was made by someone who felt they were higher up the pecking order with the superiority with which to make such concessions for my apparent faux pas. And patronising because they disguised their superiority with an attempt to be gracious by giving such concessions.

PS not trolling, just calling it the way it is - or at least the way it can appear.

dmu Aug 30th 2015 3:43 am

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Originally Posted by MartinAnt (Post 11736440)
I did not say smug, I said patronising and superior, which I think fits. The reference to my being "new" was made by someone who felt they were higher up the pecking order with the superiority with which to make such concessions for my apparent faux pas. And patronising because they disguised their superiority with an attempt to be gracious by giving such concessions.

PS not trolling, just calling it the way it is - or at least the way it can appear.

Smug is in the title.
You're making wrongful assumptions, and Amideislas could rightfully take umbrage. Dondurma calls him/herself a novice, with several times more posts than yourself. All things being relative, you can't deny that you're "new here".
I'm just glad that the subject of "cost of living" didn't come up on the France forum...;)

MartinAnt Aug 30th 2015 3:54 am

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Originally Posted by dmu (Post 11736449)
Smug is in the title.

But not in what I said in response to amideislas' post.


Originally Posted by dmu (Post 11736449)
Dondurma calls him/herself a novice, with about 9 times more posts than yourself. All things being relative, you can't deny that you're "new here".

That's modesty and self referential.

scrubbedexpat095 Aug 30th 2015 4:04 am

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@Martin

While I think you are a troll on a Sunday afternoon enjoying yourself I think you need to up your game a bit, Here's a link to help you do that. I'm really looking forward to an improved performance from you in the next few days:)
Please don't disappoint ;)

How to Be a Troll - wikiHow

Fred James Aug 30th 2015 4:11 am

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The troll has now gone back to his cave.

Thread closed.


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