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leckytech Aug 17th 2009 8:54 pm

Sky Tv Reception
 
Hi all,

Can any of you satellite savvy people explain to me why when I unplug the existing perfectly working set top box from the dish and plug in my Sky+ box I get no signal?

I would have thought they would have been a straight swap! reason is for the Disney channel and CN for the kids!

Any ideas?

shaggymon Aug 17th 2009 9:03 pm

Re: Sky Tv Reception
 

Originally Posted by leckytech (Post 7852785)
Hi all,

Can any of you satellite savvy people explain to me why when I unplug the existing perfectly working set top box from the dish and plug in my Sky+ box I get no signal?

I would have thought they would have been a straight swap! reason is for the Disney channel and CN for the kids!

Any ideas?

you need two satellite feeds for Sky +. I think one for watching and one for recording. Did you have a standard digibox previously? perhaps you've plugged your single feed into the record input.

The Guy Aug 17th 2009 9:29 pm

Re: Sky Tv Reception
 
you may need to help the sky boxes boot up.

when they boot up they look at the frequency 11778...which carries al the main data and info the sky box needs to boot up.
however, depeniding on location and dish size and time of the day, this frequency can be hard to receive.

you therefore tell the box to look at another frequency to get the information it needs to boot up....

process here
http://www.satandpcguy.com/Site/sky_...anca_spain.htm


if you do this process and you still get nothing then check all you cables and connectors.

the cable from the dish needs to be connected to INPUT1...(generlaly) this is the main input the box uses for watching - it uses INPUT 2 for recording....generally.

also, are you sure the sky+ box is working OK - can you try it on another system?


you can use a sky+ box with one cable, but you will not be able to watch one channels and recexord another at the same time.

leckytech Aug 17th 2009 9:54 pm

Re: Sky Tv Reception
 

Originally Posted by The Guy (Post 7852850)
you may need to help the sky boxes boot up.

when they boot up they look at the frequency 11778...which carries al the main data and info the sky box needs to boot up.
however, depeniding on location and dish size and time of the day, this frequency can be hard to receive.

you therefore tell the box to look at another frequency to get the information it needs to boot up....

process here
http://www.satandpcguy.com/Site/sky_...anca_spain.htm


if you do this process and you still get nothing then check all you cables and connectors.

edit: Thanks thats a really good helpful site.

the cable from the dish needs to be connected to INPUT1...(generlaly) this is the main input the box uses for watching - it uses INPUT 2 for recording....generally.

also, are you sure the sky+ box is working OK - can you try it on another system?


you can use a sky+ box with one cable, but you will not be able to watch one channels and recexord another at the same time.

Thanks for that I'll try that when I get home in 10 days. The cables must be ok as the stb is working fine. When the sky box booted it displayed "no telephone connection" for a couple of seconds then went on a blue screen with " no signal". I know about the dual connection and 1 being generally for recording. Just seemed really strange. I know the sky box is fine as I just unplugged from my uk address transported to Spain and plugged back in. My initial thoughts was that a sky+ box wont work because it needs to call home but a standard sky digi box would, however having read some posts on here suggested the sky+ would work ok.

As a side question, where is the existing stb getting its signal from? Is it uk freesat?

The Guy Aug 17th 2009 10:16 pm

Re: Sky Tv Reception
 

Originally Posted by leckytech (Post 7852907)
As a side question, where is the existing stb getting its signal from? Is it uk freesat?

what is the make and model of the exisiting STB? - you have not said so I dont know what you are currently getting!
are you sure is it a satellite receiver and not a terrestrial (TV aerial) receiver?
What channels are you getting on it? - wil determine which satellite your dish is pointing to!?

Freesat receivers, Sky receivers and generic receiver will receive the same signals if the dish is pointing tot he main UK TV satellites - Astra 2 at 28 .2 to 28.5 degrees.

There is no seperate Freesat or Sky satellites - they both use the same frequencies....

Infact a Sky box without a Sky card will get exactly the same channels as a Standard Freesat box...!

leckytech Aug 17th 2009 10:28 pm

Re: Sky Tv Reception
 

Originally Posted by The Guy (Post 7852950)
what is the make and model of the exisiting STB? - you have not said so I dont know what you are currently getting!
are you sure is it a satellite receiver and not a terrestrial (TV aerial) receiver?
What channels are you getting on it? - wil determine which satellite your dish is pointing to!?

Freesat receivers, Sky receivers and generic receiver will receive the same signals if the dish is pointing tot he main UK TV satellites - Astra 2 at 28 .2 to 28.5 degrees.

There is no seperate Freesat or Sky satellites - they both use the same frequencies....

Infact a Sky box without a Sky card will get exactly the same channels as a Standard Freesat box...!

Hi, it's definitely satellite not terrestrial. Sorry I dont know the make of the stb right now. But yes, that is also my thinking that if its receiving tv from astra then there should be no reason why I cannot receive sky.

I was thinking that perhaps the LNB was geared towards the stb and that sky wouldn't like it, could this occur?

Excellent site you linked to btw, thanks :)

The Guy Aug 17th 2009 10:32 pm

Re: Sky Tv Reception
 

Originally Posted by leckytech (Post 7852984)
Hi, it's definitely satellite not terrestrial. Sorry I dont know the make of the stb right now. But yes, that is also my thinking that if its receiving tv from astra then there should be no reason why I cannot receive sky.

by knowing what channels you are getting on your current setup we can determine which satellite you are pointing to...be it Astra 2(UKTV),. Astra 1 or Hotbird or another..
for example if you are getting BBC World news you are not on the main UK TV satellite, as they have BBC News.
Or if you have Sky News but with no adverts then you are on Sky News International on Astra 1, not SKy News UK on Astra2


Originally Posted by leckytech (Post 7852984)
I was thinking that perhaps the LNB was geared towards the stb and that sky wouldn't like it, could this occur?

if you are getting UK TV signals on your current box then there should be no problems in getting them on your Sky box...if your dish is not on UKTV satellites then your LNB may need a tweek.

Originally Posted by leckytech (Post 7852984)
Excellent site you linked to btw, thanks :)

Ta. it is rather good isnt it!;)

leckytech Aug 17th 2009 10:42 pm

Re: Sky Tv Reception
 

Originally Posted by The Guy (Post 7852990)
by knowing what channels you are getting on your current setup we can determine which satellite you are pointing to...be it Astra 2(UKTV),. Astra 1 or Hotbird or another..
for example if you are getting BBC World news you are not on the main UK TV satellite, as they have BBC News.
Or if you have Sky News but with no adverts then you are on Sky News International on Astra 1, not SKy News UK on Astra2


if you are getting UK TV signals on your current box then there should be no problems in getting them on your Sky box...if your dish is not on UKTV satellites then your LNB may need a tweek.

Ta. it is rather good isnt it!;)

Don't get BBC News 24 on the STB, think we do get Sky News though not sure about the adverts.

If I wanted to change the LNB to a quad, is this expensive. I could fit the LNB and run the cables myself?

The Guy Aug 17th 2009 11:04 pm

Re: Sky Tv Reception
 

Originally Posted by leckytech (Post 7853013)
Don't get BBC News 24 on the STB, think we do get Sky News though not sure about the adverts.?

Again, knowing what channels you are getting will determine which satellite your dish is currently looking at.


Originally Posted by leckytech (Post 7853013)
If I wanted to change the LNB to a quad, is this expensive. I could fit the LNB and run the cables myself?

depends on you dish type....
for smaller "offset" dishes (where the LNB is at an angle to the dish) 4 output LNBs can be around 50euros.

for larger "prime focus" dishes (where the LNB sits in the centre of the dish) a quad LNB can be around 100euros.

leckytech Aug 18th 2009 1:22 am

Re: Sky Tv Reception
 
Thanks for your help, I'll have a proper look when I get home.

leckytech Sep 14th 2009 3:52 am

Re: Sky Tv Reception
 
BUMP!

Hi Ive had a look and the STB is a Boshmann S1 DSR

Its pointing at Astra 2A-B-D

I plugged in Sky box and did your retune and picked up sone channels, however still not getting channel4 , ITV1 CH5 and Disney amongst others. Got BBC news 24 though.

any ideas

Thanks

The Guy Sep 14th 2009 6:59 am

Re: Sky Tv Reception
 

Originally Posted by leckytech (Post 7930506)
BUMP!

Hi Ive had a look and the STB is a Boshmann S1 DSR

Its pointing at Astra 2A-B-D

I plugged in Sky box and did your retune and picked up sone channels, however still not getting channel4 , ITV1 CH5 and Disney amongst others. Got BBC news 24 though.

any ideas

Thanks

Some regional versions of C4, ITV1, C5, and many of the disney channels, are on weaker HORIZONTAL signals and therefore will not be available all day, even on a 2.4m dish. There reception will be as per BBC2.

The regions your receive on 101, 102, 103, 104, 105 depend on the postcode of your sky card.

ITV 15(?) regions are split amongst 3 types of frequencies: astra 2d verticals (OK signal - same as most BBC1 regions), astra 2d horizontals (weak - same as BBC2) and astra 2bNorth (12402 Strong but needs a sky card).

For C4, most regions reception will be smilar to BBC2 - but you can get it 24/7 by scanning in the channels on frequency 12480 - tton4 does not need a sky card but the others do)

For C5, one region is on the same frequency as BBC2 and so reception will be as per BBC2. But scan 12422 h and you can get the other 3 Sky card versions.

http://www.satandpcguy.com/Site/extr...annels_sky.php

may help

leckytech Sep 14th 2009 8:21 am

Re: Sky Tv Reception
 
Thanks mate!,

I think for the time being the way things are it would be more appropriate to stick with the stb as not having disney negates the whole point of having it and the £25 per month rental.

appreciate you time explaining though as it will be handy for the future.

As a side query , I see a lot of high gain terrestrial antennas around me. I this for spanish freeview? Quite fancy this to immerse the kids into things a bit more.

Thanks again

:)
edit karma added

The Guy Sep 14th 2009 8:36 am

Re: Sky Tv Reception
 
Usng a TV aerial and a TDT receiver (built in or set top box) you can receive around 30 digital Spanish channels.

Including the Disney CHannel - for free.

And as most of the porgrammes on it are from the US, you can change the audio soundtrack into English!

And I noticed that the TVE childrens channels CLAN have strated to do origianl language programming also.

If you already have a TV Aerial (and amplifier kit) then try and use that. There are no such things as seperate analogue and digital TV aerials....one aerial can receive either analogue or digital, its just the orientation that needs to be different.

check tdt1.com or tdt.es for frequencies and your nearest transmitter.

leckytech Sep 14th 2009 9:28 am

Re: Sky Tv Reception
 

Originally Posted by The Guy (Post 7931092)
Usng a TV aerial and a TDT receiver (built in or set top box) you can receive around 30 digital Spanish channels.

Including the Disney CHannel - for free.

And as most of the porgrammes on it are from the US, you can change the audio soundtrack into English!

And I noticed that the TVE childrens channels CLAN have strated to do origianl language programming also.

If you already have a TV Aerial (and amplifier kit) then try and use that. There are no such things as seperate analogue and digital TV aerials....one aerial can receive either analogue or digital, its just the orientation that needs to be different.

check tdt1.com or tdt.es for frequencies and your nearest transmitter.

Wow! Nice, ..................no antenna but the cabling looks like its installed all over the villa will have to bell out to see where to put the amp, there must have been terrestrial/digi here b4 my arrival as the brackets and ubolts are there with a coax all coiled up. Any suggestions where to purchase stb/antenna/3m 2"pole/amp?


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