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pwwm Nov 27th 2011 8:54 am

Re: Sky (sorry, another thread..) No ITV/ BBC:(
 

Originally Posted by licinius (Post 9756376)
Freesat boxes are far more powerful than Sky boxes. With freesat boxes you have an uninterupted picture during bad weather (or even just in an evening) while a Sky box breaks up or loses signal totally. Binning the Sky box & replacing it with a freesat box will fix 99% of problems.

The OP has lost BBC which is the strongest transponder but gets ITV3 which suggests that it isn't a dish issue. She also says she "can watch all channels as usual, apart from ITV and BBC". By this do we assume she can still receive C4 & C5? In which case the dish definitely hasn't moved.



our fresat always breaks up in bad weather exactly the same as the old sky box did, though prefer the freesat on the whole

tommy.irene Nov 28th 2011 7:40 am

Re: Sky (sorry, another thread..) No ITV/ BBC:(
 
We have lost the BBC and 5. 5+, 5usa channels on Gran Canaria, Itv is .

next ,they are changing Satalite.. my small dish is no good and we would need a big one at 1500 euros.. the sat guy can confirm this.. Maybe this is what is happing to you BBC is going of the air in parts of Spain..11.954.H.27.2/3 gives us sky 1 sports now for free it used to be BBC News..

Fred James Nov 28th 2011 7:50 am

Re: Sky (sorry, another thread..) No ITV/ BBC:(
 
So far the only channels that have been moved to the new satellite (Astra 1N) are Channel 4HD and in Spain the reception has improved enormously.

Tinky Nov 28th 2011 8:04 am

Re: Sky (sorry, another thread..) No ITV/ BBC:(
 
Some of our regional BBC channels/ BBC2 Scotland and Wales have returned! Albeit with a bit of interference, it is watchable:) Will see how we get on, and get someone out to have a look if nothing changes in the next couple of days...

Thanks again for all your help and advice

The Guy Nov 28th 2011 8:23 am

Re: Sky (sorry, another thread..) No ITV/ BBC:(
 

Originally Posted by tommy.irene (Post 9758637)
We have lost the BBC and 5. 5+, 5usa channels on Gran Canaria, Itv is next ,they are changing Satalite.. my small dish is no good and we would need a big one at 1500 euros.. the sat guy can confirm this..

Correct the Fives moved to 1n last week, and its reception in GC is weaker that their previous frequency, so bigger dishes are required.
It is also expected the ITVs on freq 11973 and 12402 will also omve to 1n and thus will also require bigger dhises than you have at the moment.

The extreme receptoin areas like GC and Cyprus that used to be able to receiv the "fives" on "smaller" dishes can not longer receive them and will require bigger dishes.


Originally Posted by tommy.irene (Post 9758637)
Maybe this is what is happing to you BBC is going of the air in parts of Spain

Nothing to do with 1n. Just generall badly installed dishes or dishes that have moved in the winds, or pooor cabling being use, or water in the cables after recent heavy rains.


Originally Posted by tommy.irene (Post 9758637)
11.954.H.27.2/3 gives us sky 1 sports now for free it used to be BBC News..

On that frequency - leased by the BBC - it carries BBC radios and BBC interactive streams. It has no Sky Sports on there.


Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 9758662)
So far the only channels that have been moved to the new satellite (Astra 1N) are Channel 4HD and in Spain the reception has improved enormously.

No. Not just c4HD. The Fives that were on 12422 astra 2 south beams - the "free to view" Fives - on Sky boxes were mapped to 1n last week - a few days after C4HD. And soon the free to view "itv1s" will also - they are in test on 1n at the moment.

licinius Nov 28th 2011 5:22 pm

Re: Sky (sorry, another thread..) No ITV/ BBC:(
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 9756410)
You're giving advice to the Guy on SKY and freesat

Not giving him advice, just correcting him. At some stage over the next couple of days I'll stream my tv to this thread showing that Sky news is FTA on freesat even though "the expert" says it isn't!

It's a shame the OP is going to waste money calling somebody out to realign a dish that doens't need aligning. I wonder if the Guy will offer a refund.

The best thing she can do is ditch the Sky box & buy a FTE MAX S93. This will fix her problem & she'll have a much better signal reception.

The Guy Nov 28th 2011 6:30 pm

Re: Sky (sorry, another thread..) No ITV/ BBC:(
 

Originally Posted by licinius (Post 9759489)
Not giving him advice, just correcting him. At some stage over the next couple of days I'll stream my tv to this thread showing that Sky news is FTA on freesat even though "the expert" says it isn't! .

On Freesat what Freesat channel number is Sky News?
I cannot see it on the latest Freesat channel list.

http://www.freesat.co.uk/files/6013/...e_04.10.11.pdf

I did say it is avaible in FTA "non freesat mode", but it is not on Freesat. which i said with "Sky news is not available on Freesats channel list - even though it is free to air. YOu have to play around with the freesat boxes menu system and pop the Freesat box into Nonfreesat mode."

Freesat and "free to air" are different things.
Freesat and nonfreesat mode are different things.
FTE is a free to air receiver, not a freesat receiver.



Originally Posted by licinius (Post 9759489)
It's a shame the OP is going to waste money calling somebody out to realign a dish that doens't need aligning. I wonder if the Guy will offer a refund. .

Where as they could be wasting money buying a receiver when the problem could be dish alignment or lnb issue. Would you offer them a refund if they buy a receiver and their problem still happens? Especially when a dish check should cost no more than 30-40 euros.

If the dish alignment is off, or the LNB is out, then buying a new receiver will do nothing. Just buying a new box cannot magically solve all problems, especially if that problem is at the dish! Especially if reception of all other Astra 2d channels (itv2,3,4 etc) are also affected (they receive one or two A2D channel in the daytime when the A2D signal is strongest, but not the weaker channels or others later int he day when the signal is weakest), which suggests dish / lnb issues.


Originally Posted by licinius (Post 9759489)
The best thing she can do is ditch the Sky box & buy a FTE MAX S93. This will fix her problem & she'll have a much better signal reception.

We do not know if the OP uses a Sky card or not, they have not said, so ditching the Sky box for a box that cannot read a sky card may not be an option.
We do not know what Sky box the OP is using. Some Sky boxes perform a lot better than other receivers.

tommy.irene Nov 28th 2011 9:12 pm

Re: Sky (sorry, another thread..) No ITV/ BBC:(
 
I get Sky news on a £20 Bush freesat box.. on the non freesat channels mode.. I have Sky box and freesat on the same dish was hoping that when ITV went of Sky ..I could get it on freesat... lets wait and see what happens..

tommy.irene Nov 28th 2011 9:14 pm

Re: Sky (sorry, another thread..) No ITV/ BBC:(
 

Originally Posted by tommy.irene (Post 9759832)
I get Sky news on a £20 Bush freesat box.. on the non freesat channels mode.. I have Sky box and freesat on the same dish was hoping that when ITV went of Sky ..I could get it on freesat... lets wait and see what happens..

Thankyou Sat Guy for keeping us up to date with what is happening..

jdr Nov 29th 2011 12:38 am

Re: Sky (sorry, another thread..) No ITV/ BBC:(
 
I am with Sat guy on this, Sky news is on a non freesat channel on my Bush freesat hd.
This always works when my sky boxes crack up due to the rain. ;);)

Tinky Nov 29th 2011 4:00 am

Re: Sky (sorry, another thread..) No ITV/ BBC:(
 
Seems I opened a can of worms, and again, I am sorry for that, as that was not the intention!

If it makes any difference, I use a Sky card and it is an Amstrad DRX890C (I think if I read it right!). BBC is now back on and off, so sounds like something is indeed lose... Luckily we are not paying for a technician to come out, however as mentioned before, if possible I would rather have avoided it as it would mean our neighbours having to stay at home.

As only one channel is now partly missing, it is not do urgent as we can use the iPlayer when needed (ITV player a different baby, as it never works very well).

As Freesat boxes and free to air has been mentioned for Sky news, out of interest, how easy is it to switch out of the freesat mode?

Thanks again for all your help and patience:)

jdr Nov 29th 2011 4:06 am

Re: Sky (sorry, another thread..) No ITV/ BBC:(
 

Originally Posted by Tinky (Post 9760528)
Seems I opened a can of worms, and again, I am sorry for that, as that was not the intention!

If it makes any difference, I use a Sky card and it is an Amstrad DRX890C (I think if I read it right!). BBC is now back on and off, so sounds like something is indeed lose... Luckily we are not paying for a technician to come out, however as mentioned before, if possible I would rather have avoided it as it would mean our neighbours having to stay at home.

As only one channel is now partly missing, it is not do urgent as we can use the iPlayer when needed (ITV player a different baby, as it never works very well).

As Freesat boxes and free to air has been mentioned for Sky news, out of interest, how easy is it to switch out of the freesat mode?

Thanks again for all your help and patience:)

No switching at all, our channels are just below BBC1 which is on 101.

Tinky Nov 29th 2011 4:21 am

Re: Sky (sorry, another thread..) No ITV/ BBC:(
 

Originally Posted by jdr (Post 9760547)
No switching at all, our channels are just below BBC1 which is on 101.

Oh, I so wish I had asked this question before buying the Sky receiver:( Oh well, when we next need a receiver...:)

The Guy Nov 29th 2011 5:01 am

Re: Sky (sorry, another thread..) No ITV/ BBC:(
 

Originally Posted by Tinky (Post 9760528)
As Freesat boxes and free to air has been mentioned for Sky news, out of interest, how easy is it to switch out of the freesat mode?

It varies from box to box, but on most its menu, settings, "mode" and you change that mode from freesat to nonfreesat.
and on some you can have a "custom channel list"

jdr Nov 29th 2011 6:06 am

Re: Sky (sorry, another thread..) No ITV/ BBC:(
 
As far as I can remember, on set up it asked if I wanted to search for non freesat channels and just loaded them.


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