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patsywhitehair Jan 20th 2007 10:15 am

sky plus
 
hi, i am in uk at the mo. can anybody tell me if i can buy a sky plus unit in uk and use it in spain. I only have a free view card.
thanks, pat

Mitzyboy Jan 21st 2007 2:19 am

Re: sky plus
 

Originally Posted by patsywhitehair (Post 4305807)
hi, i am in uk at the mo. can anybody tell me if i can buy a sky plus unit in uk and use it in spain. I only have a free view card.
thanks, pat


Our SKY + box from the UK works here fine, although the sat man who re fitted it here said that he has a lot of the boxes fail over here, but I think thats just inherent in the standard SKY box that SKY supply.

frankcoleman Jan 21st 2007 2:27 am

Re: sky plus
 

Originally Posted by patsywhitehair (Post 4305807)
hi, i am in uk at the mo. can anybody tell me if i can buy a sky plus unit in uk and use it in spain. I only have a free view card.
thanks, pat

Yes ours works just fine. The main problems with them I believe is the power surges but there isn't much we can do about them!

Mitzyboy Jan 21st 2007 2:28 am

Re: sky plus
 

Originally Posted by frankcoleman (Post 4307344)
Yes ours works just fine. The main problems with them I believe is the power surges but there isn't much we can do about them!

Except buy a power surge protector ;)

frankcoleman Jan 21st 2007 2:32 am

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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 4307350)
Except buy a power surge protector ;)

Valid point but some of them still melt (great power in the south lol)

mikelincs Jan 21st 2007 3:44 am

Re: sky plus
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 4307329)
Our SKY + box from the UK works here fine, although the sat man who re fitted it here said that he has a lot of the boxes fail over here, but I think thats just inherent in the standard SKY box that SKY supply.

The quality of SKY + boxes has had quite a lot of coverage on the BBC programme Watchdog, seems some people have had up to 5 fail and have to be replaced, if you've got one that works, keep it.

patsywhitehair Jan 21st 2007 7:38 am

Re: sky plus
 
thanks for your replies BUT..I have a sky freeview card...... now... can I still buy a sky plus box here in UK and take it out to spain and use it with the free view card, I dont want to buy one if its no good with this card.I dont have a subscription with sky.
thanks, pat

crispy Jan 21st 2007 7:52 am

Re: sky plus
 

Originally Posted by patsywhitehair (Post 4307992)
thanks for your replies BUT..I have a sky freeview card...... now... can I still buy a sky plus box here in UK and take it out to spain and use it with the free view card, I dont want to buy one if its no good with this card.I dont have a subscription with sky.
thanks, pat

Don't know to much about this, we have pink and blue jobs in our house and this is a blue job. We brought our sky box with us (no subscription with sky) we had a small dish on the roof left by the previous owners and we picked up very limited English speaking channels, (not the main ones) lots of Germany and some Spanish as we were not living here full time that suited us fine.

Once we moved here we invested in the biggest satellite dish you could imagine and bought the basic sky card from the man who fitted up the dish
(90 euros for the card). We receive enough channels to keep us happy as we are not great TV watchers. I do not think your free to view card will work here certainly not without a dish. If I am wrong I am sure some one will correct me.:p

Fred James Jan 21st 2007 6:54 pm

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I was under the impression that a Sky + box will not work as a recorder unless you either pay Sky £10/mth or have a premium subscription.

Without it, it behaves just like an ordinary Digibox.

Can someone confirm that?

jdr Jan 21st 2007 7:04 pm

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Buy a DVD recorder, cheap as chips now.

sjrw Jun 3rd 2007 12:37 pm

Re: sky plus
 

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 4311090)
I was under the impression that a Sky + box will not work as a recorder unless you either pay Sky £10/mth or have a premium subscription.

Without it, it behaves just like an ordinary Digibox.

Can someone confirm that?

The sky+ box uses a hard drive to record; and the workings of it are all just electronics. It works because the double LNB brings in two separate signals, so you can either stop/start the action or watch one program while you record another.

The subscriptions are just for the two lots of signal you are using - the card says what programs you can watch.

Fortaleza Jun 3rd 2007 1:07 pm

Re: sky plus
 
I may be missing something, but why on earth would you want Sky here ????????

big wheels Jun 3rd 2007 9:19 pm

Re: sky plus
 

Originally Posted by Fortaleza (Post 4868827)
I may be missing something, but why on earth would you want Sky here ????????


Ooo!!!!. Now you've done it :rofl::rofl: Get yer tin hat on :D

derek500 Jun 3rd 2007 10:26 pm

Re: sky plus
 

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 4311090)
I was under the impression that a Sky + box will not work as a recorder unless you either pay Sky £10/mth or have a premium subscription.

Without it, it behaves just like an ordinary Digibox.

Can someone confirm that?

They've just dropped the £10 subscription for non-premium subscribers. The box has full functionality now for all subscribers (min £15/month package).

It won't have Sky+ fuctionality with a Freesat card.

I've got an original 2001 Sky+ box, still going strong, although I did put an 80gb hard drive in last year when the original 40gb one went kaput!!

derek500 Jun 3rd 2007 10:30 pm

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Originally Posted by big wheels (Post 4869808)
Ooo!!!!. Now you've done it :rofl::rofl: Get yer tin hat on :D

1. To watch golf. Spanish golf coverage is woeful. A couple of weeks ago Teledeportes (a Spanish freeview channel) covered the Spanish Ladies Open from Castellón.

Tee shot, quick ad break, ball landing!!

Long put, quick ad break, ball in hole!!


2. Too many more reasons to mention...

jdr Jun 4th 2007 12:04 am

Re: sky plus
 

Originally Posted by derek500 (Post 4870056)
1. To watch golf. Spanish golf coverage is woeful. A couple of weeks ago Teledeportes (a Spanish freeview channel) covered the Spanish Ladies Open from Castellón.

Tee shot, quick ad break, ball landing!!

Long put, quick ad break, ball in hole!!


2. Too many more reasons to mention...

Must be ex Sky staff in control room. ;-)

Mitzyboy Jun 4th 2007 1:38 am

Re: sky plus
 

Originally Posted by derek500 (Post 4870041)
They've just dropped the £10 subscription for non-premium subscribers. The box has full functionality now for all subscribers (min £15/month package).
I've got an original 2001 Sky+ box, still going strong, although I did put an 80gb hard drive in last year when the original 40gb one went kaput!!

You must explain this to me when I see you next

Rosemary Jun 5th 2007 4:36 am

Re: sky plus
 

Originally Posted by Fortaleza (Post 4868827)
I may be missing something, but why on earth would you want Sky here ????????

Totally agree with you. Do not need Sky, do not need English progs.

Rosemary

Mitzyboy Jun 5th 2007 8:53 am

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Originally Posted by The Oddities (Post 4876099)
Totally agree with you. Do not need Sky, do not need English progs.

Rosemary


Sorry Rosemary ... cant do without my footie and wimbledon, Nip Tuck & Deadwood

derek500 Jun 5th 2007 9:06 am

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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 4877111)
Sorry Rosemary ... cant do without my footie and wimbledon, Nip Tuck & Deadwood


The trouble with Spanish TV is they show stuff like Nip/Tuck, Lost and Desperate Housewives, but they ruin them with dubbing.

Why can't they subtitle them like the Brits and US do with foreign language films/programmes?

Rosemary Jun 5th 2007 6:08 pm

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Originally Posted by derek500 (Post 4877158)
The trouble with Spanish TV is they show stuff like Nip/Tuck, Lost and Desperate Housewives, but they ruin them with dubbing.

Why can't they subtitle them like the Brits and US do with foreign language films/programmes?

You can change the language on Desperate Housewives - not sure about anything else-

Rosemary

derek500 Jun 5th 2007 11:27 pm

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Originally Posted by The Oddities (Post 4878628)
You can change the language on Desperate Housewives - not sure about anything else-

Rosemary

Unfortunately I can't get a DTT signal where I live and apart from Canal Nou and Punt 2 non of the channels broadcast in Nicam stereo (needed for dual soundtracks).

Don't they show Desperate Housewives a strange way here? First they show an episode from the current third season and without an ad break or credits they then show an old episode from season two!!

Solarwhizz Jun 6th 2007 7:31 am

Re: sky plus
 

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 4311090)
I was under the impression that a Sky + box will not work as a recorder unless you either pay Sky £10/mth or have a premium subscription.

Without it, it behaves just like an ordinary Digibox.

Can someone confirm that?

I can confirm that the SKY+ box will only work if you have a SKY contract package , it used to only activate if on Premium channels (SKy Movies or Sky Sports), but the offering changed from Sky I think last month, So it wont allow access to the record and premium functions, The FTV card should if you have the right size dish, dependent on where your give you the normal FTV channels which require the FTV card , IE CH4/5 Sky 3 etc.

On the subject of surge protectors, dont waste your money on these as in Spain the surges are really wild swings, and outside the capability of most units,
There is a very good UPS unit sold by Media Mart, made by MGE, primarily designed for Computer protection, but the 750VA model for about 165€ will give a good level of protection, and more importantly stop the little blips in supply cutting out your systems, With the 800VA you should be able to run your Sky Box, TV and Video/DVD for about 30mins in a power cut. and never see the little blips atall,,, also saves on having to reset your SKy box on occasion.

Mitzyboy Jun 6th 2007 8:47 am

Re: sky plus
 

Originally Posted by Solarwhizz (Post 4881482)
I can confirm that the SKY+ box will only work if you have a SKY contract package , it used to only activate if on Premium channels (SKy Movies or Sky Sports), but the offering changed from Sky I think last month, So it wont allow access to the record and premium functions, The FTV card should if you have the right size dish, dependent on where your give you the normal FTV channels which require the FTV card , IE CH4/5 Sky 3 etc.

On the subject of surge protectors, dont waste your money on these as in Spain the surges are really wild swings, and outside the capability of most units,
There is a very good UPS unit sold by Media Mart, made by MGE, primarily designed for Computer protection, but the 750VA model for about 165€ will give a good level of protection, and more importantly stop the little blips in supply cutting out your systems, With the 800VA you should be able to run your Sky Box, TV and Video/DVD for about 30mins in a power cut. and never see the little blips atall,,, also saves on having to reset your SKy box on occasion.

Ah well, the three surge protectors I bought are useless then!!! In Dabs they are selling Belkin Battery backups (800VA) for £38.99 + VAT. But I have to wait till I'm in the UK as don't think they deliver to Spain :(

Solarwhizz Jun 7th 2007 6:57 am

Re: sky plus
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 4881737)
Ah well, the three surge protectors I bought are useless then!!! In Dabs they are selling Belkin Battery backups (800VA) for £38.99 + VAT. But I have to wait till I'm in the UK as don't think they deliver to Spain :(


S**t,. that is a really good price, have you got a URL to order online, or you can bring me back a few!!, and to top it all Belkin have a good name for quality!!

MnM Jun 7th 2007 7:37 am

Re: sky plus
 

Originally Posted by Solarwhizz (Post 4886244)
S**t,. that is a really good price, have you got a URL to order online, or you can bring me back a few!!, and to top it all Belkin have a good name for quality!!

This is the link for the 800

http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx...&cl=4294963687

And this is the link for the 600

http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx...1032&InMerch=1

It says they only ship to UK addresses though.

sunsoka Nov 26th 2007 2:11 am

Re: sky plus
 

Originally Posted by patsywhitehair (Post 4305807)
hi, i am in uk at the mo. can anybody tell me if i can buy a sky plus unit in uk and use it in spain. I only have a free view card.
thanks, pat

Hi Iam an installert in Spain almost all sky plus boxes work in southern Spain.
However unless you have at least the family pack of mixes you cannot use the record and pause facility,unless you pay mr Murdoch £10 a month just to record.

Fred James Nov 26th 2007 4:26 am

Re: sky plus
 

Originally Posted by Solarwhizz (Post 4881482)
With the 800VA you should be able to run your Sky Box, TV and Video/DVD for about 30mins in a power cut. and never see the little blips atall,,, also saves on having to reset your SKy box on occasion.


Yes, I use one and it's really scary when all the lights go out and the TV still works!

Bigger Jim Nov 26th 2007 7:03 am

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Hi

I followed the DAB links and it says that both the Belkin 800VA and 600VA supply 12 volts to the connected equipment.

How does this help mains operated equipment suvh as TV Sky Box etc??

Jim

Fred James Nov 26th 2007 9:20 am

Re: sky plus
 

Originally Posted by Bigger Jim (Post 5603029)
Hi

I followed the DAB links and it says that both the Belkin 800VA and 600VA supply 12 volts to the connected equipment.

How does this help mains operated equipment suvh as TV Sky Box etc??

Jim

I think you have misunderstood the situation. They use a battery which supplies 12v to the inverter which provides 230v to the attached equiopment.

Bigger Jim Nov 26th 2007 6:47 pm

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Hi Fred

Thanks for that you are quite right.

Would heve been helpful if they had used words like inverter somewhere in the description, rather than "power device" which is as about as ambiguous as you can get.

My New Years resolution must be " Be less sceptical of the claims made for cheap equipment".

I knew that I shouldn't have spent those years as an ITSEC certifier it's completely warped my judgement and faith in my fellow man.

Jim

Bigger Jim Nov 27th 2007 3:13 am

Re: sky plus
 

Originally Posted by Solarwhizz (Post 4886244)
S**t,. that is a really good price, have you got a URL to order online, or you can bring me back a few!!, and to top it all Belkin have a good name for quality!!

Hi Solarwhizz

Before you part with your hard earned money checkout the customer review on the 800VA model, if he's right think of the fun you'll have with your customers. Belkin US rate 800VA as being a capacity of just over 400 watts.

Can't be sure but this looks like a superceded model as the latest ones all seem to refer to AVR and Dabs doesn't appear to be listed as main dealer.

Jim


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