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zatanna Aug 4th 2011 1:03 am

Selling in Spain
 
How do I go about selling stuff, I would want to be on a beach - I don't mind where but I want to select a popular tourist place like mallorca. Its glitter tattoos I do, so I;m not actually selling goods. Anyone know the rules and regulations, or can point me in the right direction if I need permission/and or need to pay something to do this?

Thanks

snikpoh Aug 4th 2011 1:22 am

Re: Selling in Spain
 

Originally Posted by zatanna (Post 9537447)
How do I go about selling stuff, I would want to be on a beach - I don't mind where but I want to select a popular tourist place like mallorca. Its glitter tattoos I do, so I;m not actually selling goods. Anyone know the rules and regulations, or can point me in the right direction if I need permission/and or need to pay something to do this?

Thanks

First off, to be legal, you need to be self-employed (autonomo). This has costs associated with it irrespective of whether you physically take any money or not!

The costs associated are about 260 per month for your 'stamp' - health, and you also have to file tax returns on a regular basis and so may incur professional fees.

If you don't need health cover (ha, ha!) and don't mind working illegally and having to look over your shoulder every two minutes, then you could always do as many Spanish do and work for black money (cash-in-hand)!

jackytoo Aug 4th 2011 1:44 am

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You could join the Africans who sell on the beach and the Chinese masseurs and learn to run when the Police patrols come. ;)

zatanna Aug 4th 2011 2:40 am

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Is there anywhere I can write to - to get more information on this please?

Rosemary Aug 4th 2011 2:51 am

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As Concierges for the Spanish section of BE we would like to say hello and welcome.

BE is a very large expat website, so if you have problems finding your way around we have concierges who will try to direct you. The moderators for the Spanish forums are Mitzyboy and Fred James, moderators are there to ensure that the site runs smoothly within the rules of BE. Problems and complaints should always be addressed to a moderador who will look into the matter and deal with it efficiently and fairly. Our members who post in the Spain Forums are friendly and helpful with a wealth of knowledge of the issues of living in Spain. At the top of the page you will find a quirkily named thread called Free Beer which is full of important and useful information. Hope you enjoy your time participating in the forums.

Please let us know if you need any further help.

Rosemary and Graham

lynnxa Aug 4th 2011 3:25 am

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Originally Posted by zatanna (Post 9537615)
Is there anywhere I can write to - to get more information on this please?

contact the local ayuntamiento (council) - you'll need a licence for a pitch - in my town they are hotly contested & quite expensive

also, as you are applying something to the skin there may be health & safety cert. requirements, too

you'd be too late for this summer - most beach/street 'markets' are high season only & will only be there for maybe another month - at least in my area

zatanna Aug 4th 2011 3:43 am

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Yeah I know Im late for this summer, but thanks for your help I have enough uk markets to do ( I design t-shirts too), so the glitter protect would be great for summer hols. As it blinkin rains here almost every blimmin summer I want to try somewhere a where it doesnt often rain and b where all the little ankle biters flock too. Also at probably a Euro a time it is affordable to everyone....just need to see if it viable for me!

Thanks The Oddities too, you will always find at least one answer to your question someone trying to be smart. best policy ignore them - people who post these things desperately want you to reply something in anger in return. If you don't they get kinda sad.

Thanks

lynnxa Aug 4th 2011 4:09 am

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Originally Posted by zatanna (Post 9537729)
Yeah I know Im late for this summer, but thanks for your help I have enough uk markets to do ( I design t-shirts too), so the glitter protect would be great for summer hols. As it blinkin rains here almost every blimmin summer I want to try somewhere a where it doesnt often rain and b where all the little ankle biters flock too. Also at probably a Euro a time it is affordable to everyone....just need to see if it viable for me!

Thanks The Oddities too, you will always find at least one answer to your question someone trying to be smart. best policy ignore them - people who post these things desperately want you to reply something in anger in return. If you don't they get kinda sad.

Thanks

you need to decide where you want to be - become resident - & apply very early for a license - you don't stand a chance unless you are resident

those suggesting you do it illegally were only half joking - many many people do exactly that :(, simply because it it VERY expensive to be legally self-employed, as snikpoh said

jackytoo Aug 4th 2011 4:14 am

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I think it will be very difficult (or impossible) to obtain a licence to " work" on the beach or paseo!

lynnxa Aug 4th 2011 4:56 am

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Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 9537783)
I think it will be very difficult (or impossible) to obtain a licence to " work" on the beach or paseo!

they are available here - but as I said - hotly fought over, expensive, & only for a short summer season

zatanna Aug 4th 2011 5:59 am

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Damn I might have to turn to the oldest profession in the world.

Lynn R Aug 4th 2011 6:59 am

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Don't know about other areas in Spain, but if you read the pages and pages of 'Personal' adverts in the Sur in English weekly newspaper in Andalucia (and I can't believe just how explicit the wording of some of them is!) you will find that there is an awful lot of people already practising the oldest profession in the world here - so just as much competition in that field, I'm afraid!:)

lynnxa Aug 4th 2011 7:16 am

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Originally Posted by Lynn R (Post 9538088)
Don't know about other areas in Spain, but if you read the pages and pages of 'Personal' adverts in the Sur in English weekly newspaper in Andalucia (and I can't believe just how explicit the wording of some of them is!) you will find that there is an awful lot of people already practising the oldest profession in the world here - so just as much competition in that field, I'm afraid!:)

I read the other day that the law is supposed to be changing to make these ads illegal..........

EsuriJohn Aug 4th 2011 7:26 am

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Originally Posted by zatanna (Post 9537999)
Damn I might have to turn to the oldest profession in the world.

There is a continuous call for "ladies of the night" to ply the trade. However you will probably have to work for a Russian who will "demand" a large % fee!

Rosemary Aug 4th 2011 9:25 am

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Originally Posted by zatanna (Post 9537999)
Damn I might have to turn to the oldest profession in the world.

When I read this post I said to Rosemary I might try that. Unfortunately she had to retire to bed as she hurt herself laughing.
I do not think that was called for really.:ohmy:

Graham

zatanna Aug 4th 2011 9:41 am

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Originally Posted by The Oddities (Post 9538325)
When I read this post I said to Rosemary I might try that. Unfortunately she had to retire to bed as she hurt herself laughing.
I do not think that was called for really.:ohmy:

Graham

No going to bed early can be annoying for the other half.:p

zatanna Aug 4th 2011 10:27 am

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Seems this 200 E money I need to pay is actually setting up as a sole trader - all I want to do is sell at markets or wherever I can on a temporary basis.

megmet Aug 4th 2011 11:56 am

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Originally Posted by zatanna (Post 9538401)
Seems this 200 E money I need to pay is actually setting up as a sole trader - all I want to do is sell at markets or wherever I can on a temporary basis.

But as has been said previously....If you are self employed to be legal you need a licence and you should be paying into the social security... just as you would in the UK, that costs 260€ per month regardless of where you want to sell.

lynnxa Aug 4th 2011 5:20 pm

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Originally Posted by megmet (Post 9538511)
But as has been said previously....If you are self employed to be legal you need a licence and you should be paying into the social security... just as you would in the UK, that costs 260€ per month regardless of where you want to sell.

and regardless of how much you earn - & just to reiterate - that's not a one-off fee - that's EVERY month

zatanna Aug 4th 2011 9:12 pm

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Per month means every month I thought?

lynnxa Aug 4th 2011 9:30 pm

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Originally Posted by zatanna (Post 9539160)
Per month means every month I thought?

yes, obviously - but in your last post it came across that it was some kind of 'setting up' fee, which of course it isn't

apologies if that isn't what you meant, but it sounded that way

and if it WAS what you meant, you wouldn't be the first to think it

Mitzyboy Aug 4th 2011 11:38 pm

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Originally Posted by The Oddities (Post 9538325)
When I read this post I said to Rosemary I might try that. Unfortunately she had to retire to bed as she hurt herself laughing.
I do not think that was called for really.:ohmy:

Graham

Accountancy, you mean?

EllisG Aug 5th 2011 6:53 am

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Originally Posted by megmet (Post 9538511)
But as has been said previously....If you are self employed to be legal you need a licence and you should be paying into the social security... just as you would in the UK, that costs 260€ per month regardless of where you want to sell.

actually...it is currently 285.24 euros

lynnxa Aug 5th 2011 7:10 am

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Originally Posted by EllisG (Post 9540167)
actually...it is currently 285.24 euros

actually.............the minimum is less than that - & there are various circumstances take into account, including your age - so not everyone pays the same

have a look at this http://blog.sage.es/contabilidad-fis...uridad-social/

JLFS Aug 5th 2011 8:48 am

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Originally Posted by zatanna (Post 9538401)
Seems this 200 E money I need to pay is actually setting up as a sole trader - all I want to do is sell at markets or wherever I can on a temporary basis.

Doing any any business activity tempory or permanent means paying the Autonomos, there is no way round it.

And to sell on markets, you will need a recomendation from Mr J.H. Christo himself.

JLFS Aug 5th 2011 8:51 am

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Originally Posted by Lynn R (Post 9538088)
Don't know about other areas in Spain, but if you read the pages and pages of 'Personal' adverts in the Sur in English weekly newspaper in Andalucia (and I can't believe just how explicit the wording of some of them is!) you will find that there is an awful lot of people already practising the oldest profession in the world here - so just as much competition in that field, I'm afraid!:)


:rofl::rofl:

Rosemary Aug 5th 2011 8:58 am

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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 9539340)
Accountancy, you mean?

Of course, what else.;)

Graham


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