Hi,
Can anyone tell me what is needed (licence or permission) for an 18 year old to ride a 125cc scooter.
I have read that you don't need a test or licence (as such) if it is under 125cc.
It seems a lot more complex now from what I've been reading and unlike the UK where you just apply for your provisional and then add categories as you pass whatever tests there is no provisional as such.
As usually spanish I have read 20 different opinions on this, so help appreciated.
Oh this is first time application as a resident.

A motorcycle of between 50cc and 125cc is class A1 and requires a full licence (permiso de conducion) and corresponding test (practical and theory) and medical just as you would expect for any other motor vehicle.

If you have held a car licence for more than 3 years you automatically have the right to drive a class A1 motorcycle which possibly explains why someone might say you do not need a licence.

Details here

http://www.dgt.es/was6/portal/conten...CONDUCCION.pdf

The age for driving class A1 is 16 not 18.

Fred, my computer can't open the link, but do's that allowance apply to all EU licenses, or just Spanish ?

The link worked for me but try this alternative http://tinyurl.com/344qmqb

Yes, it applies to UK licences.

Oh thats good, than you Fred.

Thanks Fred,
Is this law fairly new?
Most of the muchachos here with scooters under 125cc tell me they didn't have a licence, just permission.

There used to be two types of licences. One for Motos was a Licencia de Conducion and applied to mopeds under 50cc.

The other was a "proper" licence for anything else called a Permiso de Conducion.

Recently the rules have changed and mopeds now are classed as normal vehicles and require a permiso rather than a licencia and are now classed as AM.

The motorcycle classes have been split into two categories depending on capacity (or power) as A1 and A2. I think there may be a period before all these new rules apply but that its the way it will be.

As far as I am aware, a 125cc bike has always required a permiso, but as mentioned before and in the other thread, you can drive a 125cc or less on a car licence if you have had it for three years.

The other change that came in with this new law is that the validity of Spanish licences is now 10 years up to 65 and 5 years thereafter. It used to be 10 years up to 45 and 5 years up to 70 and 2 years thereafter.

I am not sure of the exact date when this applies but if it is not already in effect it will come in very soon.

You should change your name to Fredipedia
Many many thanks

Can you take a pillion on a 125cc with the 3 year old car license? And can he be 5 years old?

You can't have him riding pillion, but you can have him sitting on the handle bars !

Not if you have got any sense.

Maybe I should (gently) ask some of the many parents at his school who pick up their offspring on motos.

You might be interested in this for your pillion passengers>

http://bikerpartsdirect.com/Pillion-...s-p-16507.html

Thanks all. Just returned from a school class birthday party, and was told by all that a child needs to be 9 years old.