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phyllis Jun 4th 2010 8:54 pm

satellite problems
 
I live on the Costa Blanca and for some reason I've lost ITV2 and ITV1, BBC have gone from about 6am until around 10.30am, is there a different frequency code I need to use?

The Guy Jun 4th 2010 10:00 pm

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YOur loss of channels depends on your Dish size, exact location (Costa Blanca is a vast area and TV reception varies greatly along it), and which ITV1 regions are are using.

Perhaps your dish needs realignment, or there is some cabling issues, or perhaps LNB issues - its a bit difficult to diagnose as you dont specify the dish, receiver, or your actual location - all very important information to help diagnose a problem.

There are no alternate frequencies for ITV2.
There are for ITV1 - see the reply on your other post
All BBC channels are already on the Sky box - other regions on th EPG around channel 970 upwards - so no other frequencies are needed.

If by "frequency code" you mean changing the default transponder, if you already have pictrues (like SKy News) then changing this default transponder frequency does nothing to get channels back - you only change this to help the sky boxes boot up like after power cuts - but on a good system even this should not have to be done as the boxes should boot up automatically - Sky Default Transponder Frequency Settings.

CBANDY Jun 4th 2010 11:26 pm

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Originally Posted by The Guy (Post 8612995)
YOur loss of channels depends on your Dish size, exact location (Costa Blanca is a vast area and TV reception varies greatly along it), and which ITV1 regions are are using.

Perhaps your dish needs realignment, or there is some cabling issues, or perhaps LNB issues - its a bit difficult to diagnose as you dont specify the dish, receiver, or your actual location - all very important information to help diagnose a problem.

There are no alternate frequencies for ITV2.
There are for ITV1 - see the reply on your other post
All BBC channels are already on the Sky box - other regions on th EPG around channel 970 upwards - so no other frequencies are needed.

If by "frequency code" you mean changing the default transponder, if you already have pictrues (like SKy News) then changing this default transponder frequency does nothing to get channels back - you only change this to help the sky boxes boot up like after power cuts - but on a good system even this should not have to be done as the boxes should boot up automatically - Sky Default Transponder Frequency Settings.

I have lost Nik Junior. Has it changed frequency?

pete_l Jun 4th 2010 11:41 pm

Re: satellite problems
 

Originally Posted by phyllis (Post 8612924)
I live on the Costa Blanca and for some reason I've lost ITV2 and ITV1, BBC have gone from about 6am until around 10.30am, is there a different frequency code I need to use?

I occasionally get wasps nesting in my LNB. They do nothing to improve signal strength, but once evicted I get better reception.

The Guy Jun 5th 2010 12:42 am

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Originally Posted by CBANDY (Post 8613079)
I have lost Nik Junior. Has it changed frequency?

not as far as i know..
most of the nicks (UK) are on the same frequency...lose one and you loose them all (apart from nijnr+1 - on a different freq to the others!)

snikpoh Jun 5th 2010 2:47 am

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Originally Posted by pete_l (Post 8613098)
I occasionally get wasps nesting in my LNB. They do nothing to improve signal strength, but once evicted I get better reception.

Why not fill the hole with a piece of polystyrene? That should stop the little bug***s

pete_l Jun 5th 2010 5:44 am

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Originally Posted by snikpoh (Post 8613341)
Why not fill the hole with a piece of polystyrene? That should stop the little bug***s

Tried it. Lost too much signal. it's also not that frequent an occurence.

The Guy Jun 5th 2010 6:17 am

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thin small polystyrene about the thickness of a 1euro coin works well with little signal loss.

stuart from barnsley Jun 5th 2010 6:46 pm

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Hi I am having problems with two of my Sky boxes, The first one a Pace BSkyB 2200 was working fine but now will not turn on further than the red power on light. The second a Amstrad DRX 400 keeps showing "Satellite signal not been received".This could be cured by unpluging from the mains,waiting 10mins and starting again, but now I can't get passed the Satellite signal not been received message. Is their anything I can do to get them working again? Thanks Stuart.

The Guy Jun 5th 2010 7:59 pm

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Originally Posted by stuart from barnsley (Post 8614318)
Hi I am having problems with two of my Sky boxes, The first one a Pace BSkyB 2200 was working fine but now will not turn on further than the red power on light. .

Its an old box, very very old box, and could be on its way out.
try it first wothout the satellite cable connetced - removed the possibility of a short on the cable.
failing that then i have no idea and a replacement may be required.


Originally Posted by stuart from barnsley (Post 8614318)
The second a Amstrad DRX 400 keeps showing "Satellite signal not been received".This could be cured by unpluging from the mains,waiting 10mins and starting again, but now I can't get passed the Satellite signal not been received message. Is their anything I can do to get them working again? Thanks Stuart.

See the part of the previous post and the instructions on the link.
The frequency the Sky bxo first looks at to downlaod its initial data is weak in many areas of spain, in the afternoon, on small dishes, on some digiboxes.
The data is, however, available on most other frequencies, you you change the frequency on the sky box to get the box to do the downlaod from another frequency...you can use any one of the 90plus frequencies you can receive, but the most popular ones are 12207 and 12129.



Originally Posted by The Guy (Post 8612995)
If by "frequency code" you mean changing the default transponder, if you already have pictures (like SKy News) then changing this default transponder frequency does nothing to get channels back - you only change this to help the sky boxes boot up like after power cuts - but on a good system even this should not have to be done as the boxes should boot up automatically - Sky Default Transponder Frequency Settings.


The Guy Jun 5th 2010 8:06 pm

Re: satellite problems
 

Originally Posted by CBANDY (Post 8613079)
I have lost Nik Junior. Has it changed frequency?

Done some digging and found that they have .

Nickelodeon Europe
Nick Replay
Nick Toons
Nick Junior

have all moved frequency this week, and are now on a north beam frequency, so reecption will be tricky in the afternoon, when the north beams are weakest.

stuart from barnsley Jun 5th 2010 8:15 pm

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Many thanks for you instant and detailed answers! When I connect another digibox everything is fine so the problem will be with the box and I will try your suggestions the next time I go back to Aquadulce near Seville. Thanks again Stuart.

stuart from barnsley Aug 14th 2010 5:57 pm

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Hi I tried your suggestions,after the first time with no success on the second try it wont go to 401 and gets stuck at 4. So it looks like it's dead.Another problem that I am having is that one of my white Sky freeview paid for life? with channel 5 access shows me the message--This card is not the card for this set top box etc. I had 4 sky boxes ( now 3 ) and two white cards and they were all interchangeable. The other white card is OK in all the boxes. I have fetched it back to the UK and phoned Sky and they want the onscreen model number before they can do anything. I have the model No of the box but that is not what they want. How come one of the cards has stopped working? Thanks Stuart.

The Guy Aug 14th 2010 7:08 pm

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Originally Posted by stuart from barnsley (Post 8778038)
Hi I tried your suggestions,after the first time with no success on the second try it wont go to 401 and gets stuck at 4..

when you do the services 401 to enter the installer set up menu, nothing actually happens wwhen you press 01, until you press select. the zero is not one the menu, and the 01 is the "secret" keystroke required to enter the menus.

I assume this is what you mean by "it gets stuck at 4"



Originally Posted by stuart from barnsley (Post 8778038)
.Another problem that I am having is that one of my white Sky freeview paid for life? with channel 5 access shows me the message--This card is not the card for this set top box etc. I had 4 sky boxes ( now 3 ) and two white cards and they were all interchangeable. The other white card is OK in all the boxes. I have fetched it back to the UK and phoned Sky and they want the onscreen model number before they can do anything. I have the model No of the box but that is not what they want. How come one of the cards has stopped working? Thanks Stuart.

If your sky card is showing "this is the wrong card" message on ALL FTV CHANNELS then your card has gone to sleep. Sky cards deactivate when they have no signal from the satellite for approx 4 weeks. When they have a signal again, and as long as the sky card is in the receiver it was activated in, they can be woken up over a period of 24 hours. If you do not have access to the sky box the card was activated in then you must either call sky to get the card reactivated, or get a new card.

Cards for viewing CHANNELS, apart from sports and movies, are interchangeable, but ideally must only be used in the boxes that they are paired / activated in.

Sky dont do freeview. Freeview is UK TV system via a TV aerial - ie terrestrial. Sky is satellite systems - ie extra terrestrial.

stuart from barnsley Aug 14th 2010 8:42 pm

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Thanks again for your quick reply and I will try your suggestions next week. Ta Stuart.

Dick Dasterdly Aug 18th 2010 2:20 am

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Interesting on-going case regarding the use of sky cards and reception of sky transmissions, which could have far reaching implications, if found in favour of the defendants who claim that EU free trade rules should take precedent over sky/prem restrictions.

http://www.euroviewsport.tv/legal-info.asp

The Guy Aug 18th 2010 4:58 am

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The EU must be careful on this - as it will have an effect on ALL EU broadcasters...some could go out of business as the more established players go for "European rights", which may be in contradicion to the EU "competition" policy...

And all broadcasters would have to renegiotiate (and pay more?) ALL their contracts for pan european coverage, as the card / contracts would only cover certain EU territories....thats the reason why cards and signals are restricted - its all down to contracts between the broadcasters and the programme makers...

And even if the outcome means a Sky card can be used outside the UK and ROI - does it say that Sky MUST provide a signal to that area.....

Its a minefield, and implications are, as you say, far reaching...

Dick Dasterdly Aug 18th 2010 9:07 am

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Originally Posted by The Guy (Post 8785975)
The EU must be careful on this - as it will have an effect on ALL EU broadcasters...some could go out of business as the more established players go for "European rights", which may be in contradicion to the EU "competition" policy...

And all broadcasters would have to renegiotiate (and pay more?) ALL their contracts for pan european coverage, as the card / contracts would only cover certain EU territories....thats the reason why cards and signals are restricted - its all down to contracts between the broadcasters and the programme makers...

And even if the outcome means a Sky card can be used outside the UK and ROI - does it say that Sky MUST provide a signal to that area.....

Its a minefield, and implications are, as you say, far reaching...

Doubt if the other EU broadcasters would pay the same extortionate fees as in the UK. They have competition to contend with over there and they also have plenty of other alternatives to Premier league football.
However Sky wouldn't want to lose their business.The income they get from other broadcasters both in Europe and Worldwide must be massive.

Don't think any ruling will say Sky have to provide a signal outside the UK.
However they already do that, as obviously there is a limit to how much they can narrow their beams and limit signals without seriously affecting reception within the UK.
Little doubt the case could carry on for years with Murdoch throwing money at it from every direction,slush money as well no doubt, however I don't think he'll have the same amount of clout with the EU courts as in the UK.
Interesting that Sky have meantime dropped their actions against the UK publicans who were receiving EU transmissions.
Most pubs in the UK can no longer can afford to pay Sky's extortionate fees which now come to many thousands of pound per annum, just to add to the depression in the pub trade.
Obviously Sky think that for every pub they help to put out of business, they will pick up a few hundred extra normal household subscriptions.

derek500 Aug 18th 2010 9:28 am

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 8786425)
However Sky wouldn't want to lose their business.The income they get from other broadcasters both in Europe and Worldwide must be massive.

What 'massive' income do Sky get from foreign broadcasters?

Dick Dasterdly Aug 18th 2010 9:56 am

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Originally Posted by derek500 (Post 8786482)
What 'massive' income do Sky get from foreign broadcasters?

Should read Premier league.
However they both pee in the same pot and have jointly sewn up the rights to give themselves both maximum possible income from the market as a whole, and as I understand it are jointly fighting this case together.
Interesting to note that whilst there are restrictions on reception of foreign broadcasts from outside the EU without a special licence, the premier league clubs themselves have been using them for years in order to keep tabs on foreign players.
Do as we say, not as we do.

The Guy Aug 18th 2010 10:08 am

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Doubt if the other EU broadcasters would pay the same extortionate fees as in the UK
Spanish PAY TV pay high prices for domestic Spanish rights for La Liga - huge problems re payments and TV blackout over the last few years
Italian TV channels pay per club extortional amounts for exclusivity in Italy for the big three or four teams
Lots of money for French Legaues also between the broadcasters
So it is not just in the UK...
But then the Uk is also one of the main areas of PAY TV, and so prices (like most things in the UK) are higher.

But the thing is everyone blames Sky... when this case is about the FA and its rights.....

IF the FA allocate rights ot a broadcaster for a territory then that broadcaster pays a premiums for those exclusive rights - for the UK it is Sky and ESPN, for Spain it is GOL and D+.

IF these boradcasters paid 2 billion GBP for 3 years, and the EU says its Ok for all broadcasters from all EU countires with rights for those countries to be made available in the UK, then Sky and ESPNS premium exclusivity rights would be worth a lot less - and so the FA would get less money....as they would not be able to expoit the exclusivity...

It may mean a subscription pay TV battle and good for customers, but then you may need several dishes fopr the various satellite that carry all the pay tv operators, and several subscription as, for example, LOST could be only on French Pay TV providers, Simpsons on German, Prem League on UK, Rugby on Spanish etc....

jimenato Aug 18th 2010 10:18 am

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Originally Posted by The Guy (Post 8786554)
and several subscription as, for example, LOST could be only on French Pay TV providers, Simpsons on German, Prem League on UK, Rugby on Spanish etc....

Or all direct to your laptop via a suitable, cheap proxy service...

Dick Dasterdly Aug 18th 2010 10:35 am

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Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 8786566)
Or all direct to your laptop via a suitable, cheap proxy service...

I think thats the way more ppl. are going.
I cancelled my Sky sub for the Summer, but had no problem watching Man U v Newcastle free on the laptop on Mon night.

michaleen oge Aug 18th 2010 10:27 pm

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 8786594)
I think thats the way more ppl. are going.
I cancelled my Sky sub for the Summer, but had no problem watching Man U v Newcastle free on the laptop on Mon night.

I love my football and watch any match I want to on my laptop. Perfect stream every time and to hell with sky subscriptions. I used to pay £42 a month sky sub about five years ago when I lived in Garrucha,mainly for the football. Sky found out I lived in Spain and cancelled my card,but no refund.
Now I can watch what I want,or download it for later viewing. The tinterweb is the greatest invention of the 20th and 21st century,it has brought freedom to millions and frightened the crap out of petty tyrants abroad who like to keep their subjects in the dark.
viva la tinterweb...:thumbsup:

stuart from barnsley Aug 29th 2010 4:40 am

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Hi I have just returned and after leaving the Sky card in overnight it has indeed "Woken up" even though it was not the in box that it was orignally activated in. Thanks again Stuart.


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