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Old Sep 6th 2013 | 10:02 am
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Originally Posted by andyrich666
I do get a touch brassed off when the chavs say things like 'we were talking to these Spanish lads..........and they robbed us' were they Spanish ?? or did they just look Spanish ??

What does a Spanish lad look like ?

Im not defending them (spanish lads) but how can they be sure ?
Why does tha bother you?

It doesn´t bother my OH and he is Spanish, and I am, sort of.

I don´t understand all this "being offended on behalf of others" way of thnking.

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Old Sep 6th 2013 | 10:04 am
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That was worth watching, thanks for the heads up
 
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Well, Jonboy, I can only presume that you have not had your wife/partner/daughter arrive home after some incident where they have felt vunerable and afraid.

If a bit more of this type of emails going around helps the likes of Milly Dowler, Suzy Lamplugh etc, what is the problem.

A few days ago there was a "stranger danger" excersise in a park in the UK, some of the children in question went with the stranger without hesitation.
The entire (reposted) article from Tommy.Irene encourages the notion of vulnerability and fear, does it mention men as victims? No it does not. Yet I think a young man is probably more likely to end up battered, stabbed or dead than a young woman. Just my thoughts and no statistics to back it up as yet.
So why target women? I think it is from the notion that they are the weaker sex and need to be taken care of by? Well you guessed it Men
 
Old Sep 6th 2013 | 10:12 am
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Originally Posted by me me
Why does bother you?

It doesn´t bother my OH and he is Spanish, and I am, sort of.

I don´t understand all this "being offended on behalf of others" way of thnking.
It does not bother me that you do not understand others way of thinking.

Im not offended on behalf of others, I just do not like presumption they made.

That program clearly showed the majority of it was from Eastern European the same in UK really, Maybe the way we are told not to racial stereotype in the UK brings us to the way of thinking we/I have.

It would annoy me if a load of Canadians came to the UK and were robbed by Irish travellers and they said, we was speaking to this English lad.............and then he robbed us, for me that is offensive to English who don't do immoral crimes that travellers carry out on a daily basis.
 
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The entire (reposted) article from Tommy.Irene encourages the notion of vulnerability and fear, does it mention men as victims? No it does not. Yet I think a young man is probably more likely to end up battered, stabbed or dead than a young woman. Just my thoughts and no statistics to back it up as yet.
So why target women? I think it is from the notion that they are the weaker sex and need to be taken care of by? Well you guessed it Men
Well yes it is targeted at women, usually the woman is the weaker because the attacker is usually a man.

If you read the article it is not about women needing to be taken care of by men, it is for women who find themselves alone.

Are you trying to say that Tommy should not have posted the article, if that is not the case, what is your point?
 
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Originally Posted by andyrich666
It does not bother me that you do not understand others way of thinking.

Im not offended on behalf of others, I just do not like presumption they made.

That program clearly showed the majority of it was from Eastern European the same in UK really, Maybe the way we are told not to racial stereotype in the UK brings us to the way of thinking we/I have.

It would annoy me if a load of Canadians came to the UK and were robbed by Irish travellers and they said, we was speaking to this English lad.............and then he robbed us, for me that is offensive to English who don't do immoral crimes that travellers carry out on a daily basis.



If I was robbed in the middle of Paris by a French speaker I would rightly or wrongly presume they were French, wuuld that not be the same for you.

Or would you want to know their nationality, just to make sure that you did not blame the wrong nation?
 
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Originally Posted by andyrich666
It does not bother me that you do not understand others way of thinking.

Im not offended on behalf of others, I just do not like presumption they made.

That program clearly showed the majority of it was from Eastern European the same in UK really, Maybe the way we are told not to racial stereotype in the UK brings us to the way of thinking we/I have.

It would annoy me if a load of Canadians came to the UK and were robbed by Irish travellers and they said, we was speaking to this English lad.............and then he robbed us, for me that is offensive to English who don't do immoral crimes that travellers carry out on a daily basis.
For someone who doesn´t like people making presumptions, you have just done so yourself (see highlighted in red)about the Irish travellers.


From your post I presume that your don´t read what you are writing.
 
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If I was robbed in the middle of Paris by a French speaker I would rightly or wrongly presume they were French, wuuld that not be the same for you.

Or would you want to know their nationality, just to make sure that you did not blame the wrong nation?
I don't speak French so it would not be the same for me no
 
Old Sep 6th 2013 | 10:29 am
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For someone who doesn´t like people making presumptions, you have just done so yourself (see highlighted in red)about the Irish travellers.


From your post I presume that your don´t read what you are writing.
Indeed, I was hoping you would point that out
 
Old Sep 6th 2013 | 11:01 am
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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
I've not been turned over myself though it's been tried a few times, and I've seen too many who have been done at close hand.

The result is I'm almost paranoid about it now, suspicious of almost everything and everybody, not sure if it's a good thing or a bad.

I only properly relax now when I'm well away from busy cities, towns and roads back out on my typical traditional home ground out in the sticks or in some remote mountain village.
What are you like outside a cashpoint ? No matter where I am in the world I am bothered if the machine could have been tampered with and if there is people around as they come from nowehere - I am very wary, I don't like it, day or night.

I really think with the technology now we have in the world we could be rid of cards or having to carry cash, I know that does not protect Jewellery but it would go some way to stop muggings.
 
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Well yes it is targeted at women, usually the woman is the weaker because the attacker is usually a man.

If you read the article it is not about women needing to be taken care of by men, it is for women who find themselves alone.

Are you trying to say that Tommy should not have posted the article, if that is not the case, what is your point?
The end of Tommy.Irenes post says

"Send this to any woman you know that may need
to be reminded that the world we live in has a lot of crazies in it
and it's better to be safe than sorry..
Everyone should take 5 minutes to read this. It may save your life or
a loved one's life."

The above is just another type of scaremongering serial letter which is reposted time after time. Next our Good old Tommy.Irene will be telling us to avoid the cinema as people may inject us with drugs and we will magically become drug addicts
 
Old Sep 6th 2013 | 11:41 am
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Originally Posted by andyrich666
What are you like outside a cashpoint ? No matter where I am in the world I am bothered if the machine could have been tampered with and if there is people around as they come from nowehere - I am very wary, I don't like it, day or night.

I really think with the technology now we have in the world we could be rid of cards or having to carry cash, I know that does not protect Jewellery but it would go some way to stop muggings.
I don't use cashpoints myself, though I sometimes carry a card just in case of an emergency.
I don't like them and couldn't do with the hassle and inconvenience but having seen my girlfriend turned over with one which had been fixed I would recommend folk not to use them unless they're inside secure premises.

You mention jewellry, but what's the point of it, if it only attracts thieves ?
I never wear anything but a cheapish reliable watch that would be no great loss if it was stolen.

I probably give the impression of not having a penny to scratch my arse, both around my home QTH and when out and about.
I don't care a toss what folk think, it suits me fine and I think goes down ok with my friends and neighbours most of whom probably don't have a clue if I've got a bit stashed away or I'm deep in the mire and being the nice genuine ppl. they are, probably think like me and don't care a toss either.
 
Old Sep 6th 2013 | 11:47 am
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Originally Posted by jonboy
The end of Tommy.Irenes post says

"Send this to any woman you know that may need
to be reminded that the world we live in has a lot of crazies in it
and it's better to be safe than sorry..
Everyone should take 5 minutes to read this. It may save your life or
a loved one's life."

The above is just another type of scaremongering serial letter which is reposted time after time. Next our Good old Tommy.Irene will be telling us to avoid the cinema as people may inject us with drugs and we will magically become drug addicts
If Tommy had taken the trouble to watch that CH4 Prog, he'd be aware that there's almost as many women out on the streets praying on vulnerably guys as visa versa.

The weaker sex ???

I should coco.
 
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Tommy I believe is a sincere guy. He makes a post that he thinks will genuinely help others. If you are or consider yourself to be streetwise then it's of no use to you apart from serving as an aide memoire.

Some people may find it useful and informative as is Jimentao's link.

But what does he get for his trouble? Same old. Same old.
 
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Tommy I believe is a sincere guy. He makes a post that he thinks will genuinely help others. If you are or consider yourself to be streetwise then it's of no use to you apart from serving as an aide memoire.

Some people may find it useful and informative as is Jimentao's link.

But what does he get for his trouble? Same old. Same old.
So he types three words of his own and copies and pastes a chain letter. Is it any wonder I am not hailing him as some sort of genius.
Lets hope he doesn't get religion, he'll post the Bible
 


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