Running your car on sunflower oil
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Running your car on sunflower oil
Are you aware if you can get diesel you can run your car / 4x4 on sunflower / veg oil ?,it costs the about the same as diesel but if you dont have a choice you can mix it at upto a ratio of 50/50 in a warm climate,
Warning -Dont try this with the later common rail type engines ,only the older ones,usually pre 98
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Warning -Dont try this with the later common rail type engines ,only the older ones,usually pre 98
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Re: Running your car on sunflower oil
Saw on Top Gear a while back that, apparently the diesel engine was actually designed to run on chip oil,(or something similar),the fuel we call diesel was actually invented after the engines when the oil companies saw an opportunity!
Whats the tax situation regarding doing this in Spain, in GB its full tax (obviously!:curse, I heard in Germany its tax free!
PS;could there be a market for organic fuel in Spain,theres a fella I know in Sussex who buys used oil, cleans it up and add's something and ,then sells it to motorists,would this work in Spain?
Whats the tax situation regarding doing this in Spain, in GB its full tax (obviously!:curse, I heard in Germany its tax free!
PS;could there be a market for organic fuel in Spain,theres a fella I know in Sussex who buys used oil, cleans it up and add's something and ,then sells it to motorists,would this work in Spain?
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Re: Running your car on sunflower oil
Are you aware if you can get diesel you can run your car / 4x4 on sunflower / veg oil ?,it costs the about the same as diesel but if you dont have a choice you can mix it at upto a ratio of 50/50 in a warm climate,
Warning -Dont try this with the later common rail type engines ,only the older ones,usually pre 98
Rgds
Rotor
Warning -Dont try this with the later common rail type engines ,only the older ones,usually pre 98
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Rotor
Here are the facts http://www.veggiepower.org.uk/qswhichcars.html
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Re: Running your car on sunflower oil
Are you aware if you can get diesel you can run your car / 4x4 on sunflower / veg oil ?,it costs the about the same as diesel but if you dont have a choice you can mix it at upto a ratio of 50/50 in a warm climate,
Warning -Dont try this with the later common rail type engines ,only the older ones,usually pre 98
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Rotor
Warning -Dont try this with the later common rail type engines ,only the older ones,usually pre 98
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Please let me know if this is your professional advice as it would appear that you are suggesting its OK.
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Re: Running your car on sunflower oil
Lokking at the posted web link it would appear to be,provided you have the relevant injector kit!
Seem to recall seeing/hearing somewhere, that the engine has to be flushed through to clear any buildups out as well
Doesnt seem to be as straightforward as its made out to be,but then nothing ever is
Seem to recall seeing/hearing somewhere, that the engine has to be flushed through to clear any buildups out as well
Doesnt seem to be as straightforward as its made out to be,but then nothing ever is
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Re: Running your car on sunflower oil
50% is the minimum by the way....for winter use they actually advise somewhere in the region of 10-15%
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Re: Running your car on sunflower oil
Are you aware if you can get diesel you can run your car / 4x4 on sunflower / veg oil ?,it costs the about the same as diesel but if you dont have a choice you can mix it at upto a ratio of 50/50 in a warm climate,
Warning -Dont try this with the later common rail type engines ,only the older ones,usually pre 98
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Rotor
Warning -Dont try this with the later common rail type engines ,only the older ones,usually pre 98
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Rotor
However if you do not pay fuel duty on anything you put in the tank of a vehicle if so then what you are suggesting is not illegal?
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Re: Running your car on sunflower oil
I dont quite understand your reply, over 50% of veg oil you will have to fit a fuel heater due to its viscosity, changing the fuel filter very regulary should not be required with new oil , hell its clean enough to eat on your salad! anyway fuel filters on tdi`s are less than 10 euro each, with regards to winter use I assumed you live in Spain, not the UK, BUT its all irrelevent after the fuel strikes as veg oil prices are fixed at much the same as diesel, thieving anti green supermarkets!!
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Yeah, fuel filters don't really cost much, but some of us don't want to be changing them every 2000 miles, which is just over every month for me at the moment, and its the fact that the oil clogs them up that is the problem.
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The figures from the Landrover people state that winter use OF VEG OIL should only ever be about 10-15%
Yeah, fuel filters don't really cost much, but some of us don't want to be changing them every 2000 miles, which is just over every month for me at the moment, and its the fact that the oil clogs them up that is the problem.
Yeah, fuel filters don't really cost much, but some of us don't want to be changing them every 2000 miles, which is just over every month for me at the moment, and its the fact that the oil clogs them up that is the problem.
I guess your talking about "Land Rover people" in the UK where its obviosly much cooler than Spain , unless you live on the top of Mulhacen!!, I can only tell you what Ive done,I dont sell or fit oil conversion kits but any DIY mechanic could easly fabricate a oil heater system but as I said before the stuff is no cheaper in Spain so theres little point unless own a chip shop and filter your old oil!!
Its not a bad idea to change your oil and fuel filters every 3000 miles even if you run on pump diesel.
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Re: Running your car on sunflower oil
Just beware before you try it, i ran my 97 Terrano on "proper" biodiesel for over a year without any problems tried it with a few litres of sunflower oil it clogged all my fuel lines and filters within a day of putting it in, my mechanic said i was very lucky it didnt knacker the fuel pump.
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Re: Running your car on sunflower oil
Just beware before you try it, i ran my 97 Terrano on "proper" biodiesel for over a year without any problems tried it with a few litres of sunflower oil it clogged all my fuel lines and filters within a day of putting it in, my mechanic said i was very lucky it didnt knacker the fuel pump.
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Re: Running your car on sunflower oil
So call my cynical here!
But you're a self confessed all above board, professional parts supplying outfit and you're suggesting to people or at least giving them the info about running their vehicles on sunflower oil?
Now, one COULD see it as possibly lining your own pockets since the majority of people who read such posts don't know one end of a car to another and will try anything and mess up...
AND...
Then need parts....
Hmm... I think I've been on forums to long!
Either way it's no way to give an image of a professional, trust worthy outfit doing posts like that IMO. Might want to rethink it next time.
But you're a self confessed all above board, professional parts supplying outfit and you're suggesting to people or at least giving them the info about running their vehicles on sunflower oil?
Now, one COULD see it as possibly lining your own pockets since the majority of people who read such posts don't know one end of a car to another and will try anything and mess up...
AND...
Then need parts....
Hmm... I think I've been on forums to long!
Either way it's no way to give an image of a professional, trust worthy outfit doing posts like that IMO. Might want to rethink it next time.
Last edited by zel; Jun 12th 2008 at 4:52 pm.