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Re: Running out of gas ...
See the price of a Bombona is up 5% today. We once hired 2 heaters whilst waiting for a part for the CH. We used 2 bombonas in a week!
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Re: Running out of gas ...
Get fracking moving !
When all the fu#king numpties around realise the ‘Global/Climate/Warming/Change religion for what it really is.....A conspired scam to create a bulti-billion dollar a year industry that continually feeds itself and its zealot and fanatical devotees by punishing the plebs and the masses for placing their bins an inch to the left and rewarding with massive subsidies those who can already afford to own great swathes of the countryside and can cough up, without batting an eyelid, the initial down payment for another near useless wind farm that desecrates a landscape that the very Earth they are purporting to protect took millions of years to create....Whilst the creators of this religion spend most of their time hurtling through the skies in vast machines that spew more carbon than a small town like Wigan , in an earnest haste to meet each other, back slap their ingenuity and wail at the ignorant and downright foolish negligence of Mrs Higgingbottom from Cleckheaton who forgot to separate her lawn cuttings from the dried dog shite she found in the garden that morning and got smacked with a £100 multa.... Then and only then will the closing of power stations in the UK to meet EU regulations as the Chinese hump another coal burning mega-city into existence appear to be what it so plainly is....Sheer and utter folly! So as you fire up your wood burner, order your next 1000 litres gasoil and top up the old water bottles....Remember....It’s getting warmer out there!..... What a load of Bollix! :thumbup: |
Re: Running out of gas ...
Well I have to agree with you:thumbsup:
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Re: Running out of gas ...
Originally Posted by jimenato
(Post 10622582)
Send them to aggro and J2 so they can live the dream:amen:
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Re: Running out of gas ...
Originally Posted by jackytoo
(Post 10622654)
Weather is crap...no snow here though. Think we live in a bubble:lol:,
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Re: Running out of gas ...
Originally Posted by The Beast
(Post 10624513)
Get fracking moving !
When all the fu#king numpties around realise the ‘Global/Climate/Warming/Change religion for what it really is.....A conspired scam to create a bulti-billion dollar a year industry that continually feeds itself and its zealot and fanatical devotees by punishing the plebs and the masses for placing their bins an inch to the left and rewarding with massive subsidies those who can already afford to own great swathes of the countryside and can cough up, without batting an eyelid, the initial down payment for another near useless wind farm that desecrates a landscape that the very Earth they are purporting to protect took millions of years to create....Whilst the creators of this religion spend most of their time hurtling through the skies in vast machines that spew more carbon than a small town like Wigan , in an earnest haste to meet each other, back slap their ingenuity and wail at the ignorant and downright foolish negligence of Mrs Higgingbottom from Cleckheaton who forgot to separate her lawn cuttings from the dried dog shite she found in the garden that morning and got smacked with a £100 multa.... Then and only then will the closing of power stations in the UK to meet EU regulations as the Chinese hump another coal burning mega-city into existence appear to be what it so plainly is....Sheer and utter folly! So as you fire up your wood burner, order your next 1000 litres gasoil and top up the old water bottles....Remember....It’s getting warmer out there!..... What a load of Bollix! :thumbup: One - global warming, which is measurable since polar ice caps are melting too fast, cooling the oceans and causing weird weather patterns all over the globe. Whether you believe it's man-made or cyclical, you can't deny it is happening. Two - the human response to it, which I agree is totally crazy. People are pursuing short-term financial profit and leaving their descendants to clean up the mess. (Nothing new there then.) |
Re: Running out of gas ...
Originally Posted by Pocaloca
(Post 10624653)
You are confusing two issues here.
One - global warming, which is measurable since polar ice caps are melting too fast, cooling the oceans and causing weird weather patterns all over the globe. Whether you believe it's man-made or cyclical, you can't deny it is happening. Two - the human response to it, which I agree is totally crazy. People are pursuing short-term financial profit and leaving their descendants to clean up the mess. (Nothing new there then.) |
Re: Running out of gas ...
Originally Posted by jimenato
(Post 10624769)
What is 'the human response to it which you agree is totally crazy'?:confused:
(b) govts having world summit meetings and making commitments which they have no real intention of honouring (c) profiteering by manufacturers of renewable energy products (d) lies issued by the petroleum industry (e) eco-fascists who believe they can save the world by recycling their yoghurt pots and make you feel guilty for not pulling out your TV plug at night (it's industry rather than individuals who are the real energy-wasters) and so forth. |
Re: Running out of gas ...
Originally Posted by Pocaloca
(Post 10624653)
You are confusing two issues here.
Whatever is happening to the beloved planet cannot be altered by the feeble and somewhat draconian manner in which the rules and regulations are administered to and laid down by a fanatically driven belief that its all our fault and some of us must pay dearly for it. Buuuut....Not Everyone! Nations are signing up to measures the consequences of which will be detrimental and in some cases fatal to millions of people now and in the future in the belief in something that is intangible and impossible to prove either way no matter at whose feet the blame lies, if there is any blame to lay. That’s fu#king madness! Not only have the various nations who have signed on the dotted line making plans for huge cutbacks in carbon emissions....Those who ironically know these targets are unachievable cos they need to burn stuff to live.... go around buying up allowances from other stupid nations who haven’t the ability to burn enough shite to fill up their ALLOWED tonnage of crap?? More fu#king madness! Meanwhile, all the possible good these ‘’signed up’’ nations are achieving isn’t worth a piece of p#ss cos the other half of the planet are torching anything and everything they can lay their hands on to build and live and expand???? The whole place is fu#ked up girl! |
Re: Running out of gas ...
Originally Posted by The Beast
(Post 10624866)
Pocagirl, I ain’t the one confused......
Originally Posted by The Beast
(Post 10624866)
Whatever is happening to the beloved planet cannot be altered by the feeble and somewhat draconian manner in which the rules and regulations are administered to and laid down by a fanatically driven belief that its all our fault and some of us must pay dearly for it. Buuuut....Not Everyone!
Originally Posted by The Beast
(Post 10624866)
Nations are signing up to measures the consequences of which will be detrimental and in some cases fatal to millions of people now and in the future in the belief in something that is intangible and impossible to prove either way no matter at whose feet the blame lies, if there is any blame to lay. That’s fu#king madness!
Originally Posted by The Beast
(Post 10624866)
Not only have the various nations who have signed on the dotted line making plans for huge cutbacks in carbon emissions....Those who ironically know these targets are unachievable cos they need to burn stuff to live.... go around buying up allowances from other stupid nations who haven’t the ability to burn enough shite to fill up their ALLOWED tonnage of crap?? More fu#king madness!
Originally Posted by The Beast
(Post 10624866)
Meanwhile, all the possible good these ‘’signed up’’ nations are achieving isn’t worth a piece of p#ss cos the other half of the planet are torching anything and everything they can lay their hands on to build and live and expand???? The whole place is fu#ked up girl!
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Re: Running out of gas ...
Originally Posted by Pocaloca
(Post 10624851)
(a) trying to pretend it's not happening or claiming it's some sort of conspiracy theory
Agreed (b) govts having world summit meetings and making commitments which they have no real intention of honouring Agreed (c) profiteering by manufacturers of renewable energy products Not sure about that. Any examples/evidence? (d) lies issued by the petroleum industry Again - not sure. What lies? (e) eco-fascists who believe they can save the world by recycling their yoghurt pots and make you feel guilty for not pulling out your TV plug at night agreed, but (it's industry rather than individuals who are the real energy-wasters) Power generation and transport account for a large slice of fossil fuel usage. Are you counting those as 'industry'? Look at the pie charts down the page here Also are you saying that industry uses a lot of energy or uses a lot of energy that it doesn't need to (big difference). and so forth. Let's face it, none of us are going to give up our cars/flights/kids (not that I've got any but you get the point) so why should developing countries not do the same as we have been doing for the last 100 years? We need to fuel our lifestyles somehow - get fracking, expand nuclear and hang the consequences. |
Re: Running out of gas ...
Originally Posted by jimenato
(Post 10625097)
I would add that there's not a lot of point in any of us doing anything as China/India/Brazil will undo anything the rest of the world could do, even if the rest of the world had the will to do anything which it hasn't. It's too late. We might as well enjoy life and stop worrying about it.
Let's face it, none of us are going to give up our cars/flights/kids (not that I've got any but you get the point) so why should developing countries not do the same as we have been doing for the last 100 years? We need to fuel our lifestyles somehow - get fracking, expand nuclear and hang the consequences. That just about sums it up in a nutshell. |
Re: Running out of gas ...
Originally Posted by jimenato
(Post 10625097)
I would add that there's not a lot of point in any of us doing anything as China/India/Brazil will undo anything the rest of the world could do, even if the rest of the world had the will to do anything which it hasn't. It's too late. We might as well enjoy life and stop worrying about it.
Let's face it, none of us are going to give up our cars/flights/kids (not that I've got any but you get the point) so why should developing countries not do the same as we have been doing for the last 100 years? We need to fuel our lifestyles somehow - get fracking, expand nuclear and hang the consequences.
Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
(Post 10625356)
Agreed.
That just about sums it up in a nutshell. its too late, we are too old, just go and enjoy it, if your grandchildren haven't been killed in a smog or tsunami or something then you won't be around to see it anyway those with big ideas like China and Brazil who are buying up all the copper, manhole covers etc to keep their industries operating are doing 500 times more damage to a fragile eco-system than Britain did in Victoria's time. ` |
Re: Running out of gas ...
Originally Posted by Domino
(Post 10625449)
Also agree
its too late, we are too old, just go and enjoy it, if your grandchildren haven't been killed in a smog or tsunami or something then you won't be around to see it anyway those with big ideas like China and Brazil who are buying up all the copper, manhole covers etc to keep their industries operating are doing 500 times more damage to a fragile eco-system than Britain did in Victoria's time. ` I've just been through this thread and the old fracking thread and the only people who seem to be against it are Lynn R and RedDragon2008. Pocaloca is alright if there is a man with a red flag walking in front of it. Pretty good consensus for a change. :) |
Re: Running out of gas ...
Originally Posted by jimenato
(Post 10625097)
(c) profiteering by manufacturers of renewable energy products
Not sure about that. Any examples/evidence? Everything from the price of low-energy light bulbs to energy companies putting surcharges on customers' bills for R&D while continuing to receive public subsidies and make massive profits. (d) lies issued by the petroleum industry Again - not sure. What lies? Greedy Lying Bastards: US filmmaker attacks oil industry (e) ...it's industry rather than individuals who are the real energy-wasters Power generation and transport account for a large slice of fossil fuel usage. Are you counting those as 'industry'? Look at the pie charts down the page here. Also are you saying that industry uses a lot of energy or uses a lot of energy that it doesn't need to (big difference). It's the whole system really. A lot of energy is wasted on producing, promoting and transporting goods that serve no real purpose, e.g. all the junk we import from China which ends up in landfill after a few months. Consumerism makes the world go round, we have to have a new kitchen or car every three years, a new techno-gadget every three months, food has to be shipped halfway round the world because we want it out of season, that sort of thing. Also there are multinational companies who jet their staff round the world instead of using video-conferencing; my friend has just flown from Madrid to San Francisco for a meeting! Totally ridiculous. I would add that there's not a lot of point in any of us doing anything as China/India/Brazil will undo anything the rest of the world could do, even if the rest of the world had the will to do anything which it hasn't. It's too late. We might as well enjoy life and stop worrying about it. Let's face it, none of us are going to give up our cars/flights/kids (not that I've got any but you get the point) so why should developing countries not do the same as we have been doing for the last 100 years? We need to fuel our lifestyles somehow - get fracking, expand nuclear and hang the consequences. http://thepostapoc.com/wp-content/up...terworld-j.jpg |
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