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rugbymatt Feb 24th 2013 3:59 am

Re: Rugby in Spain
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10565672)
Funny, I seem to have noticed Union guys kicking the ball off the pitch every chance they get or lying in a heap every few minutes on both occasion stopping the game and having a nice rest, whilst the League guys keep on going non stop and hardly have time to spit. :confused:

That's because they never touch each other, in League its just run, get "tackled" by having a hand put in front of them, they go to the ground and it all starts again... In Union you have thinking, strategy, tactics. In league you have blokes running fast...


Besides, no one cares about league, no one ever has, Northerners and the French love it because both groups of people hate committing to a fight.

jimenato Feb 24th 2013 4:36 am

Re: Rugby in Spain
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10565495)
Yes and rightly so.

Footballers might moan a bit, but I think the biting off of ears, the blinding by poking out of eyes, the stamping on heads and numerous other recent revelations, drops the game, if you can call it that, way below even the barbaric level of cage fighting and right into the gutter. :thumbdown:

What on earth are you talking about? Biting of ears? Tuilagi got an (unintentional) elbow.:confused:

This is what football and ears is all about...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp_BvpNIONE

Yes and rightly so? :sneaky:

Bunch of overpaid, undertalented pantomime pansies. Surprised they don't figure more often in the OSCARS.

jimenato Feb 24th 2013 4:38 am

Re: Rugby in Spain
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10565495)
Yes and rightly so.

Footballers might moan a bit, but I think the biting off of ears, the blinding by poking out of eyes, the stamping on heads and numerous other recent revelations, drops the game, if you can call it that, way below even the barbaric level of cage fighting and right into the gutter. :thumbdown:

Kindly say when the last Union player was blinded.

jimenato Feb 24th 2013 4:40 am

Re: Rugby in Spain
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10565566)
Not at all, in fact I quite like Rugby League, far tougher and more of a mans game than Union will ever be.

Please don't try telling me Rugby Union players never complain, because the never ending stream of citations blows that fallacy clean out of the water.

Citing is done by the officials after the event - not by the players. You really don't know much about this do you?

Dick Dasterdly Feb 24th 2013 4:47 am

Re: Rugby in Spain
 

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 10565687)
In Union you have thinking, strategy, tactics.


Besides, no one cares about league, no one ever has, Northerners and the French love it because both groups of people hate committing to a fight.

A bit like American football then in one respect then "thinking, stategy, tactics", so a good idea to take a picnic hamper along and maybe a sleeping bag as well to relax and make the best of the endless breaks and interruptions.

You know there's a grain of truth in what you said previously, the League guys go hard at it all the game just as they would if grafting at work all day, whereas the jolly old rugger types are more used too sitting behind office desks and certainly no way can they be expected to stay on their feet or keep up the pace throughout a whole game.


As for the fighting bit being part of the game, does that include the biting off of ears, the poking out of eyes and the stamping on head etc ?

It's just not cricket old chap, eh what ? :lol:

Dick Dasterdly Feb 24th 2013 5:05 am

Re: Rugby in Spain
 

Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 10565755)
What on earth are you talking about? Biting of ears? Tuilagi got an (unintentional) elbow.:confused:

This is what football and ears is all about...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp_BvpNIONE

I actually posted that myself last week, just to show the lighter side of the game, something else that jolly old rugger is sadly lacking.

Though pardon me if I don't embarrass you with the notorious Bloodgate tape. Not an isolated occurance as it turned out, when all the beans were finally spilled.

You could post a thousand footie tapes and not come across anything so ridiculous and hypocritical as that.

As for the other things I mentioned, I am not referring to only one game but to numerous incidents which often come up in news reports.
It's far too boring a game for me to attempt to recall or even be seriously interested in such childish nonsense.

jimenato Feb 24th 2013 5:23 am

Re: Rugby in Spain
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10565798)

As for the other things I mentioned, I am not referring to only one game but to numerous incidents which often come up in news reports.
It's far too boring a game for me to attempt to recall or even be seriously interested in such childish nonsense.

OK - so no blindings and no examples of Union players citing then - contrary to what you said. As you say - childish nonsense and very boring. Give it up. If you want to talk about Rugby League (a game which I really enjoy by the way) start another thread. And good luck with it.

Dick Dasterdly Feb 24th 2013 5:41 am

Re: Rugby in Spain
 

Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 10565832)
OK - so no blindings and no examples of Unions players citing then - contrary to what you said. As you say - childish nonsense and very boring. Give it up. If you want to talk about Rugby League (a game which I really enjoy by the way) start another thread. And good luck with it.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dangero...in_rugby_union


So how about this for starters, all from Wiki ?

Stamping and kicking

In a 1927 match involving Quillan, the strongest team in the country at the time, and Perpignan, the Quillan hooker Gaston Riviere received such a kicking that he died from his injuries.[11]Welsh fullback JPR Williams was the victim of stamping by touring New Zealand prop John Ashworth in 1978.[9] After receiving 30 stitches from his father he returned to the game. A player for Welsh club Pontycymmer was jailed for 15 months after stomping on an opposition players head during a rugby game in 2005.[12] In 2006 a South African rugby player from the Western Cape died after allegedly being kicked in the head during a rugby match.[13]
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Biting

South African prop Johan Le Roux bit New Zealand hooker Sean Fitzpatrick's ear during a scrum during a test in 1994, receiving an 18 month ban.[9] After the disciplinary hearing he stated that "For an 18-month suspension, I feel I probably should have torn it off". Kevin Yates, an English international, was cited for foul play in 1998 by London Scottish after a player suffered a serious injury to his left ear[14] and subsequently received a six month ban.[15] In 2008 an English club player was banned for eighty weeks following a biting incident that left a player with "a partial amputation of the right index finger".[16] A Welsh club rugby player was jailed for a year in 2008 for biting an opponents earlobe off.[17] After a scuffle during a 2009 rugby match in the Cape Town suburb of Brackenfell, a player had to have his fingertip reattached after an alleged biting incident.[18]
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Eye-gouging

For more details on this topic, see Eye-gouging (rugby union).
Eye-gouging is a serious offence where a player uses hands or fingers to inflict pain in an opponent's eyes. The game's laws refer to it as "contact with eyes or the eye area of an opponent" but such incidents are usually referred to as "eye-gouging" among players and in the media.[20] The IRB has made special mention of eye gouging, describing it as "particularly heinous".[21] Following two high-profile test match incidents, involving Schalk Burger and Sergio Parisse, during the same week in June 2009, the IRB stated that it would review the sanction structure for this type of offence "in order to send out the strongest possible message that such acts will not be tolerated".[21]
On 2 October 2010, Gavin Quinnell of the Welsh regional team Scarlets suffered an eye injury 30 minutes into a game between Scarlets feeder club Llanelli and Cross Keys. The following Thursday it was confirmed that, despite the best efforts of surgeons, he had lost the sight in his left eye.[22] The incident is currently being investigated by the Welsh Rugby Union and Gwent Police. Clarence Harding, an amateur player, lost sight in his right eye after an incident.[23][24][25] On 24 November 2010 the player alleged to have been responsible was cleared of all charges due to lack of evidence.[26]


Well you did ask :cool:

...and they only refer to the more prominent players and incidents.

Once you've digested that, I'd also be interested to hear your views on Bloodgate ? :unsure:

jimenato Feb 24th 2013 7:41 am

Re: Rugby in Spain
 
Ye gods! You are a seriously ****ing boring **** aren't you?:amen:

Lets do a bit of league baiting then...



Entirely happy with all of that?

Dick Dasterdly Feb 24th 2013 8:51 am

Re: Rugby in Spain
 

Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 10566031)
Ye gods! You are a seriously ****ing boring **** aren't you?:amen:

Lets do a bit of league baiting then...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=81INRrap8Is

Entirely happy with all of that?

Well I'm quite happy that I've made my point at least, ........but what your's is I haven't the faintest clue,......... other than making a mockery of Matts post no 46.
:confused:

rugbymatt Feb 24th 2013 8:51 am

Re: Rugby in Spain
 
Has the league boredom stopped yet?

agoreira Feb 24th 2013 9:53 am

Re: Rugby in Spain
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10566163)
I haven't the faintest clue,.........
:confused:

Well, that's the only sensible thing you've contributed today. :rofl: I agree with you on that point at least.

Dick Dasterdly Feb 24th 2013 10:33 am

Re: Rugby in Spain
 

Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 10566252)
Well, that's the only sensible thing you've contributed today. :rofl: I agree with you on that point at least.

Not having been seriously challenged on any point I made and clearly demonstrated, the best you can do is take 2 or 3 words as you are very well aware totally out of context. :zzz:

It appears you can't even find a single straw to grasp, so I think I can contentedly rest my case. :thumbup:

You rugger types are even easier meat than I thought. :rofl:

fionamw Feb 24th 2013 5:15 pm

Re: Rugby in Spain
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10566301)
Not having been seriously challenged on any point I made and clearly demonstrated, the best you can do is take 2 or 3 words as you are very well aware totally out of context. :zzz:

It appears you can't even find a single straw to grasp, so I think I can contentedly rest my case. :thumbup:

You rugger types are even easier meat than I thought. :rofl:


And all of you chaps whether jolly rugby sticks types or nancy footballistas or whatever, how about the original thread? Which was, to me and a few others at least, rather interesting?

jimenato Feb 24th 2013 8:03 pm

Re: Rugby in Spain
 

Originally Posted by fionamw (Post 10566687)
And all of you chaps whether jolly rugby sticks types or nancy footballistas or whatever, how about the original thread? Which was, to me and a few others at least, rather interesting?

Well said. The thread is about Ruby Union and, in particular, about rugby in Spain - it's not about football nor league. I have no idea why someone would want to come and spoil this thread for others. Well I have actually - it's called trolling as...


You rugger types are even easier meat than I thought..
...that line clearly demonstrates - just on some stupid wind-up trip.

Perhaps they would like to start their own thread and talk to themselves there.


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