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zimzam Jun 17th 2010 3:13 am

Returning with car
 
I left Spain begining of last year and returned to the UK with my Spanish car, the tax and ITV have both expired but want to drive it back to Spain. Any ideas what to do apart from running the gauntlet down the east coast one night.

Fred James Jun 17th 2010 3:43 am

Re: Returning with car
 
Spanish road tax, unlike the UK, is a municipal tax so the Guardia are not really interested in whether it has been paid.

As for the ITV, if you book an appointment to have it done, www.itvcita.es , and print out the appointment details I doubt that you would have a problem if stopped.

Dave n Dee Jun 17th 2010 3:44 am

Re: Returning with car
 
Yes a really good idea,! no different than driving while drunk!
you have a car that should not be on the road, ie- no Insurance etc-
Hope you don't knock anyone down, I bet prison food is great.

Fred James Jun 17th 2010 3:46 am

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Originally Posted by Dave n Dee (Post 8639083)
Yes a really good idea,! no different than driving while drunk!
you have a car that should not be on the road, ie- no Insurance etc-
Hope you don't knock anyone down, I bet prison food is great.

Who said it wasn't insured?

Dave n Dee Jun 17th 2010 3:47 am

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No ITV /Mot no insurance.

zimzam Jun 17th 2010 3:54 am

Re: Returning with car
 
Have kept the insurance going on the car so still insured for another 3 months, thanks Fred will try your idea

Fred James Jun 17th 2010 3:57 am

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"No ITV /Mot no insurance."

Why do you assume that is the case?

I am insured with Linea Directa and I asked them that specific question. Their reply was that a valid ITV is NOT a condition of the insurance policy.

I suggest you check the small print on your policy and see where the need for an ITV is mentioned.

An ITV only proves that the vehicle was roadworthy for the few minutes that it was tested - the brakes could fail 5 minutes later.

Bomber Harris Jun 17th 2010 4:03 am

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Originally Posted by Dave n Dee (Post 8639093)
No ITV /Mot no insurance.

Whilst I cannot speak regarding France or Spain regarding insurance I have to wonder where the urban myth began in the UK that not having an MOT on your car invalidates the insurance, it doesnt!
All UK insurance companies have a standard clause that your car must be maintained in a roadworthy condition, if it isn't & they can substantiate that fact, they will not pay for the damage to your car. They still have to pay for the damage/injury that has been caused to the third party. The MIB (Motor Insurers Bureau have lost this argument in the UK Appeal Courts when their members tried to avoid paying out to the third party. Just because a car doesn't have a current MOT does not mean it is not roadworthy, just the same as a car that does have an MOT can be unroadworthy (i.e. a bald tyre).

Notwithstanding that, I personally would not take the chance of driving a vehicle without current valid documentation as I'm too tight to pay the fine if stopped.

Fredbargate Jun 17th 2010 4:10 am

Re: Returning with car
 

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 8639113)
"No ITV /Mot no insurance."

Why do you assume that is the case?

Just checked the wife's motorbike policy.

Requirement to keep the vehicle in a legal roadworthy condition

No Mot not legal.

How do you prove you have been keeping the vehicle in a roadworthy condition without an MOT, agreed it only proves that it was OK at the time, but it also proves that you have been making the effort.

zimzam Jun 17th 2010 4:16 am

Re: Returning with car
 
Dave, all I was asking was any ideas on what to do apart from driving down the east coast one night, but thanks for your valid input.

Bomber Harris Jun 17th 2010 4:20 am

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 8639151)
Just checked the wife's motorbike policy.

No Mot not legal.

Don't write as if your quoting from the policy, it is misleading. That phrase is not in any UK motor policy, only the bit about keeping it roadworthy is.
The abscence of a current MOT will just send the insurers round to examine the vehicle to see if they can find a fault with it.

Fredbargate Jun 17th 2010 4:27 am

Re: Returning with car
 
The phrase in the policy quote

" To maintain the vehicle in a legal and roadworthy condition "

Later in the policy quote

" You or any permitted driver are required to maintain the insured vehicle in a legal and roadworthy condition "

Bomber Harris Jun 17th 2010 4:33 am

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 8639193)
The phrase in the policy quote

" To maintain the vehicle in a legal and roadworthy condition "

The same phrase I have used throughout, you chose to add immediately afterwards in your first posting "no MOT not legal", which could be misconstrued as still qoting from the policy as you chose not to use quotation marks in that first post.

Dave n Dee Jun 17th 2010 4:57 am

Re: Returning with car
 

Originally Posted by zimzam (Post 8639172)
Dave, all I was asking was any ideas on what to do apart from driving down the east coast one night, but thanks for your valid input.

contact your insurance co, tell them you will be driving say from London to Portsmouth on the 17th June, to catch the Spanish ferry,
make a appointment for a IVA test on your arrival in Spain.
Take the test, and if all is well, then you will be fully insured. to carry on your journey.

Emma-Louise Jun 17th 2010 5:48 am

Re: Returning with car
 
I wouldn't drive through France, you wouldn't want to get a French bobby on a bad day!

I'd get the ferry straight to the North of Spain and book it in an ITV center near the ferry terminal......

As for the tax, do you have someone looking after your Spanish post? As by now you would have been sent the payment slip through the post, ask a friend to pay it for you and transfer them the money?


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