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Old May 21st 2023, 9:26 am
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Good news (for a change!)

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Originally Posted by spainrico
Was even reported on the BBC early morning show weather slot yesterday
100% renewable for nine hours...

Im all for it, having the 100% renewable tariff from our electric supplier and having moved all of my pension pot to companies with a good renewable and sustainable business plans.. (ok Im not making any money but if more people did this it might force bad companies to look at their waste)

But and its going to remain a fairly large but, until battery storage becomes easily available for when the sun dont shine...

I still think the world is maybe 30 years away from a reliable (cheap) storage....
Again another BUT it dont matter what small countries like ours and in fact most of the world do, when China etc are not doing much if anything.

Top 10 carbon polluters in the world. Knock these off the list and you will actually see some progress.

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  1. China, with more than 10,065 million tons of CO2 released.
  2. United States, with 5,416 million tons of CO2
  3. India, with 2,654 million tons of CO2
  4. Russia, with 1,711 million tons of CO2
  5. Japan, 1,162 million tons of CO2
  6. Germany, 759 million tons of CO2 (set to get worse as they have closed the Nuclear power stations)
  7. Iran, 720 million tons of CO2
  8. South Korea, 659 million tons of CO2
  9. Saudi Arabia, 621 million tons of CO2
  10. Indonesia, 615 million tons of CO2
The Uk by comparison is only responsible for less than 6 million tons of the total and Spain 245 million tons...

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Wow that really is good news thanks.

We live about 80min drive from Sevilles solar tower its wonderful.... Take a look at the pictures..

https://www.amusingplanet.com/2013/0...spain.html?m=1

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I do remember driving towards Seville and seeing what I thought was the headlight of a plane in the sky - which then never moved and I couldn't work it out until I vaguely remembered this.
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this company is being backed by Jeff Bazos, Bill Gates and state of West Virginia


''Washing Machine size'' mean it can fit anywhere in the home may be entering the market late 2023/2025 add this to a 50% enhancement to solar panels giving 320 watts per 1000 watts instead 220watts . Perskovite based Solar panels also expected to have a commercial run at end of 2024 could be the start of something very very exciting and not too far away.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/20/a-bi...rs-future.html

I think 2030 may see thet start of a global shift
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I have plenty of spare land that I could install a hundred or so solar pv panels.
Was looking at Endesa website the other day to check out their feed-in figures.
They only buy electricity at 10 cents per kwh.
Also, seems I can only sell to Endesa up to the same amount I consume from them.
So I could generate a couple of hundred kwh a day but only get paid for the amount I purchase from Endesa, which is zero.
Who can I sell my electricity to?
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For autoconsumo con excedentes acogidos a compensación you can't, legally it's more like the supplier is applying a discount to your bill rather than buying it off you. I'm not sure if Endesa will also apply discounts to bills for other properties you have with them but Holaluz will, so e.g. solar panels on land at a house in the country could subsidise the electricity bill for a flat in the city. There is also a way for a third or more of the residents in a comunidad de vecinos to share the cost of solar panels on the roof (and presumably land in urbanizaciones) and getting discounts on their bills.

If you really want to sell electricity then you have to choose autoconsumo con excedentes no acogida a compensación and get legally set up as an electricity supplier, you could try that if you've got bored of the everyday boring bureaucracy you've faced so far.

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The real facts are that renewables cost a fortune compared to the usual methods so this must be paid for & guess who will be paying the bill.
So the last thing any of them want it to pay anyone for feeding into their grid (all IMO)
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Anything new costs a fortune, also anything old when it's scarce also costs a fortune, then it runs out and after that we've got a problem.
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Anything new costs a fortune, also anything old when it's scarce also costs a fortune, then it runs out and after that we've got a problem.
So what is running out then ?
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The real facts are that renewables cost a fortune compared to the usual methods so this must be paid for & guess who will be paying the bill.
So the last thing any of them want it to pay anyone for feeding into their grid (all IMO)
The ''cost of the fortune'' continues to come down, rapidly.

STORAGE

The solid state battery looking to go into production next year will be a fraction of retail cost experienced today and far lighter than lead acetate battery. Imagine a 1 kilo car battery delivering more wattage than the current very heavy car battery, no lead or other toxic by products.

Lighting up the iron rust battery which has a 100 hour charging life and looking to drive 1200watts per 1k weight, with a projected 30 year lifespan instead of a 3 year shelf life for a car battery.

GENERATION

WIND, WAVE AND HYDRO ALL PLAY A PART AS DOES LIGHT ENERGY

LIGHT ENERGY


Perskovite continues to evolve and will go into solar panel production at end of next year with 50% increase in output and at about 60% of the cost per current mass market 1000 watt panels. The work on perskovite as a form of spray paint can turn whole buildings and vehicles, land sea and air into the equivalent of a solar panel. The recent success at a sw wales university for 3 d printing of such panels at a fraction of the present cost is another step in the cost reduction pathway.

DELIVERY

By 2030 there is a real possibility/probability that many detached residential units can go off grid and be 100% clean electric. The grid will remain as a transition evolves. Instead of National grids there will be Regional grids
not delivering Parts of the world where I live there is no excuse for not delivering 100% solar generation and off grid power transmission. The majority of the planets population live in a light receptor zone of 8 hours per day.

Continued evolution, 2030 we may all be living the reality

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Yes, I had a quick look on the net at comparable costs of renewables vs nuclear and renewables seem to be a better bet and probably a lot safer and quicker to install and benefit.
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So what is running out then ?
Well we've just had a preview with Russia turning off the gas and fossil fuels are projected to run out in the latter half of this century.

Oil will end by 2052 – 30 years time
Gas will end by 2060 – 40 years time
Coal will last till 2090 – 70 years time
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Well we've just had a preview with Russia turning off the gas and fossil fuels are projected to run out in the latter half of this century.
I thought that we turned off the taps by refusing to buy it and the allowing old Uncle Sam to blow up the pipeline.

So this is what is planned & the cost will cripple most of the working class of that there is no doubt.

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I thought that we turned off the taps by refusing to buy it
Russia has cut off gas supplies to Europe indefinitely. Here’s what you need to know

and the allowing old Uncle Sam to blow up the pipeline.
Who blew up the Nord Stream pipelines?

The most important thing to bear in mind is the more scarce something is, the higher the price, so no matter what the reason (Putin or running out of fossil fuels) we collectively need to move to renewable energy sources before conventional energy supplies become scarce, we don't have any choice in the matter.

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