Go Back  British Expats > Living & Moving Abroad > Europe > Spain
Reload this Page >

Regional differences

Regional differences

Old Dec 6th 2008, 9:14 pm
  #16  
Forum Regular
 
Sarleon's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Location: Gava, Barcelona
Posts: 101
Sarleon has a brilliant futureSarleon has a brilliant futureSarleon has a brilliant futureSarleon has a brilliant futureSarleon has a brilliant futureSarleon has a brilliant futureSarleon has a brilliant futureSarleon has a brilliant future
Default Re: Regional differences

I think they feel European, and admire London as a city and the UK for our once-strong economy.

They don't like our association with the US, but which nationality does!!!?!?!

I often find they are interested in our internal history in the UK, particularly the relationship between England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales.

My husband is Colombian and the South American's do get a different response from us from the Catalans to be honest!
Sarleon is offline  
Old Dec 6th 2008, 9:18 pm
  #17  
THR
Account Closed
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 383
THR is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Regional differences

The chauvinistic me again. Somehow I automatically assume that all the people I talk to here are males but your "my husband"-bit made me realise that perhaps not all of them are.
THR is offline  
Old Dec 6th 2008, 9:50 pm
  #18  
Forum Regular
 
Sarleon's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Location: Gava, Barcelona
Posts: 101
Sarleon has a brilliant futureSarleon has a brilliant futureSarleon has a brilliant futureSarleon has a brilliant futureSarleon has a brilliant futureSarleon has a brilliant futureSarleon has a brilliant futureSarleon has a brilliant future
Default Re: Regional differences

Sarleon is offline  
Old Dec 7th 2008, 5:02 am
  #19  
¿Dónde estoy?
 
lynnxa's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Location: my paradise - Jávea
Posts: 13,330
lynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Regional differences

Originally Posted by arko
I've been waiting to post a similar question so thought I'd incorporate it in this thread without starting a new one, if you don't mind. I was just wondering if any of you were living in regions where one of the regional languages was spoken apart from Spanish. Has anyone managed to learn the regional language as well as Spanish? Has anyone experienced any problems because they can't speak Catalan, Basque, Galician, Valencian, Aragonese, Bable......

I live in Andalucia. The people where I live feel quite remote from Madrid and always have a few words to say about the Catalans!!

Does anyone have any children who go to Spanish state school where their children are taught in one of the regional languages?

Thanks for bringing up a really interesting topic.
Both my kids speak Valenciano & Castellano

In the primary schools in this area, there is the 'linea castellana' & the 'linea valenciana'

In the 'linea castellana' they are taught roughly 60% in Castellano & 40% in Valenciano - the other way round in the 'linea valenciana'

In primary school, both my girls were in the castellano line, but my older dd has just started at the instituto & has chosen to switch to the valenciano line. She had a spoken test to check fluency. She now studies everything except Castellano & German in Valenciano.

She chose to swap because you get less foreigners in the classes for obvious reasons, and also teenagers brought here from other countries & dumped into secondary school without a word of spanish are put into the castellano line - they often don't want to be here, don't want to learn the language, and disrupt classes :curse: (don't get me started)

I don't speak Valenciano, but I can read it reasonably well, and understand it spoken - but have no real desire to learn it properly (I don't like the sound of it)

On the street you tend to find the locals speaking valenciano rather than castellano - although they will speak to you in castellano - in fact I have been told by locals that they would consider it disrespectful to speak to a foreigner in Valenciano

My older dd loves to 'butt in' in Valenciano in shops if the staff are speaking Valenciano

The expression on the faces of the shops assistants is a picture! This tall, blonde, obviously non-spaniard - speaking to them perfectly in their own secret language
lynnxa is offline  
Old Dec 7th 2008, 5:10 am
  #20  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
fionamw's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Location: near Colmenar, Prov de Malaga
Posts: 5,174
fionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Regional differences

Originally Posted by lynnxa
Both my kids speak Valenciano & Castellano

In the primary schools in this area, there is the 'linea castellana' & the 'linea valenciana'

In the 'linea castellana' they are taught roughly 60% in Castellano & 40% in Valenciano - the other way round in the 'linea valenciana'

In primary school, both my girls were in the castellano line, but my older dd has just started at the instituto & has chosen to switch to the valenciano line. She had a spoken test to check fluency. She now studies everything except Castellano & German in Valenciano.

She chose to swap because you get less foreigners in the classes for obvious reasons, and also teenagers brought here from other countries & dumped into secondary school without a word of spanish are put into the castellano line - they often don't want to be here, don't want to learn the language, and disrupt classes :curse: (don't get me started)

I don't speak Valenciano, but I can read it reasonably well, and understand it spoken - but have no real desire to learn it properly (I don't like the sound of it)

On the street you tend to find the locals speaking valenciano rather than castellano - although they will speak to you in castellano - in fact I have been told by locals that they would consider it disrespectful to speak to a foreigner in Valenciano

My older dd loves to 'butt in' in Valenciano in shops if the staff are speaking Valenciano

The expression on the faces of the shops assistants is a picture! This tall, blonde, obviously non-spaniard - speaking to them perfectly in their own secret language




(actually, I'm now wondering how much the various other languages deviate from Castillano. I'm familiar with how Catalan does, in terms of letters used, etc., but is it possible to give a simple example?)
fionamw is offline  
Old Dec 7th 2008, 12:51 pm
  #21  
Forum Regular
 
arko's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 181
arko is a name known to allarko is a name known to allarko is a name known to allarko is a name known to allarko is a name known to allarko is a name known to allarko is a name known to allarko is a name known to allarko is a name known to allarko is a name known to allarko is a name known to all
Default Re: Regional differences

Originally Posted by fionamw
[/COLOR]



(actually, I'm now wondering how much the various other languages deviate from Castillano. I'm familiar with how Catalan does, in terms of letters used, etc., but is it possible to give a simple example?)
Have a look at this.

http://www.xunta.es/linguagalega/an_...ician_language

Compared to the Basque Country, Catalonia, Valencia or the Balearics, a higher % of Galicians actually speak their own regional language. It's strange, as Galicians tend to be in the news less than the other regions because of their wish for more autonomy.

I don't speak Galego but I speak Portuguese and armed with Spanish, Galego is quite simple to decipher. It actually a language in its own right but as usual, because of it's unfortunate geographical location between two heavy-weight languages, it's often been considered an offshoot of either Portuguese or Castillian.



Hello Ola.
How are you? Como estás? Como está?
Fine, thank you. Moi ben, grazas.
What is your name? Como te chamas? (informal); Como se chama? (formal)
My name is ______ . Chámome ______ .
Nice to meet you. É un pracer.

I can't speak Galician [well]. Non falo [moi ben] o galego.
Do you speak English? falas inglés?
arko is offline  
Old Dec 8th 2008, 5:15 am
  #22  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
fionamw's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Location: near Colmenar, Prov de Malaga
Posts: 5,174
fionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Regional differences

Hello Ola.
How are you? Como estás? Como está?
Fine, thank you. Moi ben, grazas.
What is your name? Como te chamas? (informal); Como se chama? (formal)
My name is ______ . Chámome ______ .
Nice to meet you. É un pracer.

I can't speak Galician [well]. Non falo [moi ben] o galego.
Do you speak English? falas inglés?[/QUOTE]

Thanks for that...it often amazes me how similar many of the Latin languages are yet they're all distinct - we were in a pizza/pasta place last week & the woman asked my little boy his name & he answered (Spanish). Except I did a double take & twigged that she'd spoken to him in Italian & he'd answered in Spanish .. & I once had a not terribly fluent conversation with a woman in the Caribbean about Spain & things Spanish..... yet she was actually Portuguese & I don't speak a word of it
fionamw is offline  
Old Dec 8th 2008, 5:23 am
  #23  
¿Dónde estoy?
 
lynnxa's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Location: my paradise - Jávea
Posts: 13,330
lynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Regional differences

Originally Posted by fionamw
Hello Ola.
How are you? Como estás? Como está?
Fine, thank you. Moi ben, grazas.
What is your name? Como te chamas? (informal); Como se chama? (formal)
My name is ______ . Chámome ______ .
Nice to meet you. É un pracer.

I can't speak Galician [well]. Non falo [moi ben] o galego.
Do you speak English? falas inglés?
Thanks for that...it often amazes me how similar many of the Latin languages are yet they're all distinct - we were in a pizza/pasta place last week & the woman asked my little boy his name & he answered (Spanish). Except I did a double take & twigged that she'd spoken to him in Italian & he'd answered in Spanish .. & I once had a not terribly fluent conversation with a woman in the Caribbean about Spain & things Spanish..... yet she was actually Portuguese & I don't speak a word of it[/QUOTE]


I think many of the differences are written - verbally the Latin languages sound very similar........I can't speak Italian - though I can recognise it - and used to manage conversations with an Italian neighbour
lynnxa is offline  
Old Dec 8th 2008, 6:31 am
  #24  
jdr
RETIRED ;-))
 
jdr's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Location: Benalmadena Pueblo,Spain
Posts: 20,156
jdr has a reputation beyond reputejdr has a reputation beyond reputejdr has a reputation beyond reputejdr has a reputation beyond reputejdr has a reputation beyond reputejdr has a reputation beyond reputejdr has a reputation beyond reputejdr has a reputation beyond reputejdr has a reputation beyond reputejdr has a reputation beyond reputejdr has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Regional differences

Originally Posted by lynnxa
Thanks for that...it often amazes me how similar many of the Latin languages are yet they're all distinct - we were in a pizza/pasta place last week & the woman asked my little boy his name & he answered (Spanish). Except I did a double take & twigged that she'd spoken to him in Italian & he'd answered in Spanish .. & I once had a not terribly fluent conversation with a woman in the Caribbean about Spain & things Spanish..... yet she was actually Portuguese & I don't speak a word of it

I think many of the differences are written - verbally the Latin languages sound very similar........I can't speak Italian - though I can recognise it - and used to manage conversations with an Italian neighbour[/QUOTE]
I speak cockney, but can still converse with Brummies and scousers etc.

PS fiona don`t cut the quote tags off, look at what happens to the text. ;-(
jdr is offline  
Old Dec 8th 2008, 7:26 am
  #25  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
fionamw's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Location: near Colmenar, Prov de Malaga
Posts: 5,174
fionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Regional differences

Originally Posted by jdr
I think many of the differences are written - verbally the Latin languages sound very similar........I can't speak Italian - though I can recognise it - and used to manage conversations with an Italian neighbour
I speak cockney, but can still converse with Brummies and scousers etc.

PS fiona don`t cut the quote tags off, look at what happens to the text. ;-([/QUOTE]

Don't think it was me, guv.....honest
...or maybe it was...don't understand what's happening.

Just managed it in another thread, maybe it's when double-quoting it gets complicated

Last edited by fionamw; Dec 8th 2008 at 7:31 am.
fionamw is offline  
Old Dec 8th 2008, 7:40 am
  #26  
¿Dónde estoy?
 
lynnxa's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Location: my paradise - Jávea
Posts: 13,330
lynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Regional differences

Originally Posted by fionamw
I speak cockney, but can still converse with Brummies and scousers etc.

PS fiona don`t cut the quote tags off, look at what happens to the text. ;-(
Don't think it was me, guv.....honest
...or maybe it was...don't understand what's happening.

Just managed it in another thread, maybe it's when double-quoting it gets complicated[/QUOTE]

looking at it, I thought it was me - but I don't think it was
lynnxa is offline  
Old Dec 8th 2008, 7:43 am
  #27  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
fionamw's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Location: near Colmenar, Prov de Malaga
Posts: 5,174
fionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond reputefionamw has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Regional differences

Originally Posted by lynnxa
Don't think it was me, guv.....honest
...or maybe it was...don't understand what's happening.

Just managed it in another thread, maybe it's when double-quoting it gets complicated
looking at it, I thought it was me - but I don't think it was[/QUOTE]

Aha! happened again! Harrumph!

B*****.....and again. must be the double quote
fionamw is offline  
Old Dec 8th 2008, 7:45 am
  #28  
¿Dónde estoy?
 
lynnxa's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Location: my paradise - Jávea
Posts: 13,330
lynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Regional differences

Originally Posted by fionamw
looking at it, I thought it was me - but I don't think it was
Aha! happened again! Harrumph!

B*****.....and again. must be the double quote[/QUOTE]

lynnxa is offline  
Old Dec 8th 2008, 10:34 am
  #29  
jdr
RETIRED ;-))
 
jdr's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Location: Benalmadena Pueblo,Spain
Posts: 20,156
jdr has a reputation beyond reputejdr has a reputation beyond reputejdr has a reputation beyond reputejdr has a reputation beyond reputejdr has a reputation beyond reputejdr has a reputation beyond reputejdr has a reputation beyond reputejdr has a reputation beyond reputejdr has a reputation beyond reputejdr has a reputation beyond reputejdr has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Regional differences

Originally Posted by fionamw
looking at it, I thought it was me - but I don't think it was
Aha! happened again! Harrumph!

B*****.....and again. must be the double quote[/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by lynnxa
Aha! happened again! Harrumph!

B*****.....and again. must be the double quote
[/QUOTE]

Look at your text showing there is no quote tags at the front of the sentence, don`t quote for a while and it will sort itself out.
Do you use the multi quote box ?
jdr is offline  
Old Dec 8th 2008, 10:47 am
  #30  
¿Dónde estoy?
 
lynnxa's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Location: my paradise - Jávea
Posts: 13,330
lynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond reputelynnxa has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Regional differences

Originally Posted by jdr
Aha! happened again! Harrumph!

B*****.....and again. must be the double quote


[/QUOTE]

Look at your text showing there is no quote tags at the front of the sentence, don`t quote for a while and it will sort itself out.
Do you use the multi quote box ?[/QUOTE]

I know it definitely wasn't me that time
lynnxa is offline  

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.