Re gassing a fridge
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Anyone ever had this done in Spain?
Is it done by an air con engineer or by a white goods repair person? Or sub contracted out by white goods repair man!
Symptoms are compressor on all the time and hot, top of fridge frozen. Doesn't switch off even with thermostat turned down to Min.
Is it done by an air con engineer or by a white goods repair person? Or sub contracted out by white goods repair man!
Symptoms are compressor on all the time and hot, top of fridge frozen. Doesn't switch off even with thermostat turned down to Min.

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Anyone ever had this done in Spain?
Is it done by an air con engineer or by a white goods repair person? Or sub contracted out by white goods repair man!
Symptoms are compressor on all the time and hot, top of fridge frozen. Doesn't switch off even with thermostat turned down to Min.
Is it done by an air con engineer or by a white goods repair person? Or sub contracted out by white goods repair man!
Symptoms are compressor on all the time and hot, top of fridge frozen. Doesn't switch off even with thermostat turned down to Min.
In both cases it was a white goods repair service.

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I don't think you have a "gas" problem, I think you have a thermostat issue. If the problem was no refrigerant it wouldn't get cold.
Anyone ever had this done in Spain?
Is it done by an air con engineer or by a white goods repair person? Or sub contracted out by white goods repair man!
Symptoms are compressor on all the time and hot, top of fridge frozen. Doesn't switch off even with thermostat turned down to Min.
Is it done by an air con engineer or by a white goods repair person? Or sub contracted out by white goods repair man!
Symptoms are compressor on all the time and hot, top of fridge frozen. Doesn't switch off even with thermostat turned down to Min.

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concur.
although it may be the copper constantan thermocouple that is detecting the temperature
same problem happens with gas central heating boilers, but more often as they are detecting heat rather than cold
if you can get a meter across the thermocouple sensing temp set meter to continuity/resistance and see if you get a reading - if it is zero or less then the thermocouple is shot.
how much is a new fridge ??
rgds
although it may be the copper constantan thermocouple that is detecting the temperature
same problem happens with gas central heating boilers, but more often as they are detecting heat rather than cold
if you can get a meter across the thermocouple sensing temp set meter to continuity/resistance and see if you get a reading - if it is zero or less then the thermocouple is shot.
how much is a new fridge ??
rgds

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3- 400 euros?
Sadly I don't live in the " just throw it away and buy another world". I'll get a thermostat (20 euros) and try that after Easter.
Haven't got a meter.
Sadly I don't live in the " just throw it away and buy another world". I'll get a thermostat (20 euros) and try that after Easter.
Haven't got a meter.

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if no meter to measure continuity then get a car light bulb, a PP3 battery and a couple of pieces of electric string.
if the light bulb lights you have continuity across the thermocouple "hot junction"

tech note -
with the low cost "throw away" copper constantan thermocouples, they are made by taking a piece of soft copper tubing, filling with a non-conductive powder and forcing a piece of constantan wire down the centre. welding/soldering at one end forms the hot junction. Some have used no powder and an insulating sleeve on the inner conductor
no animals will be injured in the carrying out of this exercise
no animals will be injured in the carrying out of this exercise
Last edited by Domino; Mar 26th 2013 at 5:21 pm. Reason: techy note

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Remember Confucius, he says go to Chinese shop, buy test meter less than €5

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Oh, sorry, "assembled" in Germany or somewhere, so they can get 3000% more for Germans snapping the lid on it. I'm sure that makes it a whole lot better.

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or go to local shop buy light bulb and electric string €7.50 made in China.
Long time since I've seen an Avo


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I wonder, did the rest of the world feel the same way about our manufacturing for the world as we now do about the Chinese.


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Anyone ever had this done in Spain?
Is it done by an air con engineer or by a white goods repair person? Or sub contracted out by white goods repair man!
Symptoms are compressor on all the time and hot, top of fridge frozen. Doesn't switch off even with thermostat turned down to Min.
Is it done by an air con engineer or by a white goods repair person? Or sub contracted out by white goods repair man!
Symptoms are compressor on all the time and hot, top of fridge frozen. Doesn't switch off even with thermostat turned down to Min.

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allways good to have very useful out of date info,and you call me a scumbag?
regassing a fridge,prob costs the guy 30 euros
regassing a fridge,prob costs the guy 30 euros

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The refrigerant gas R22 was very common in all sorts of applications including white goods. But this has been found to be carcinogenic and bad for the ozone layer as with other less common CFC/HCFC gases.
The Montreal Protocol of 1985 called for a halt to the use of such gases and of course the EU took it under its wing and legislated in 2000 for a phased withdrawal of such gases.
Since 2010 there have been no virgin stocks of R22 and the name of the game has been for repairers to recycle where appropriate. As time goes by this means the gas available will become dirtier (causing compressor problems) and more expensive as demand increases.
What has this got to do with me
you ask........
If you have old refrigeration equipment gassed with R22 you may find it impossible to get it regassed. This applies to Fridges, Freezers and AC units.
The new "safer" gases require different pressures and cool at, generally, higher temperatures, so regassing an old unit can cause other problems.
All I am saying is, if there is nothing wrong with a unit and it retains all its gas then fine. If it requires regassing expect problems.
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The Montreal Protocol of 1985 called for a halt to the use of such gases and of course the EU took it under its wing and legislated in 2000 for a phased withdrawal of such gases.
Since 2010 there have been no virgin stocks of R22 and the name of the game has been for repairers to recycle where appropriate. As time goes by this means the gas available will become dirtier (causing compressor problems) and more expensive as demand increases.
What has this got to do with me

If you have old refrigeration equipment gassed with R22 you may find it impossible to get it regassed. This applies to Fridges, Freezers and AC units.
The new "safer" gases require different pressures and cool at, generally, higher temperatures, so regassing an old unit can cause other problems.
All I am saying is, if there is nothing wrong with a unit and it retains all its gas then fine. If it requires regassing expect problems.
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