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growinspain Nov 13th 2024 8:05 am

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Originally Posted by Lynn R (Post 13285449)
I read today that Mercadona have made €40M available to pay compensation to their workers who were affected by the DANA in Valencia - €50,000 if their house was completely or partially destroyed, and €15,000 if they lost their car. They will get the money by 21 November. They have also started a fund to help small businesses and start ups which were affected. Good for them.

Mercadona dona 40 millones para ayudar a sus trabajadores afectados por la dana | Economía | EL PAÍS

Yes, the owners are pure Valencianos and have helped the community now and in the past.
Very good people...
They own the basket team here..
Sadly we lost 2 other prominent business owners here also

Pollyana Nov 13th 2024 11:30 am

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Originally Posted by Rosemary (Post 13285384)
Videos of the floods in Malaga are now on social media. I do not understand why people choose to stand in heavy rain beside flooded rivers watching the fast moving water and do not seem to see the danger that they are putting themselves in.

Rosemary

Always used to puzzle us at work back in Australia. We would be sending out warnings of "Threat to life" due to a tsunami" yet people would rush to the beach, wanting to watch the waves. Warnings of flash flooding, yet people still still tried to drive through flooded roads. "Severe Tropical Cyclone crossing the coast in 1 hour" and people would sit on their balconies in the impact area to watch.
Unfortunately the emergency services then have to go out and rescue these idiots.

growinspain Nov 13th 2024 11:49 am

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Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 13285480)
Always used to puzzle us at work back in Australia. We would be sending out warnings of "Threat to life" due to a tsunami" yet people would rush to the beach, wanting to watch the waves. Warnings of flash flooding, yet people still still tried to drive through flooded roads. "Severe Tropical Cyclone crossing the coast in 1 hour" and people would sit on their balconies in the impact area to watch.
Unfortunately the emergency services then have to go out and rescue these idiots.

These situations do not happen here in Europe.. They have no clue to what to do...
8 tornadoes above Valencia struck during the storm.... Never before...
it is a new world....

Rosemary Nov 13th 2024 5:24 pm

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Originally Posted by growinspain (Post 13285481)
These situations do not happen here in Europe.. They have no clue to what to do...
8 tornadoes above Valencia struck during the storm.... Never before...
it is a new world....

Warnings and alerts always state that people should safeguard themselves so common sense should kick in and stop them from putting themselves close to the dangerous situation. Whether or not they have any experience of what is happening is irrelevant really as sightseeing is sheer stupidity as it puts them in the worse position possible.

I believe that the authorities have taken the step of stopping private cars from using the roads in many places during the current rains because they know that some people will ignore the warnings and continue to drive around.

Rosemary

Mark604 Nov 13th 2024 5:42 pm

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I'd be interested to find out how many people go "sightseeing" just for their own curiosity and how many go just so they can take a tlktok type selfie video to improve their "likes".
I suspect nowadays the latter far, far outweigh the former.

Rosemary Nov 13th 2024 6:36 pm

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Originally Posted by Mark604 (Post 13285493)
I'd be interested to find out how many people go "sightseeing" just for their own curiosity and how many go just so they can take a tlktok type selfie video to improve their "likes".
I suspect nowadays the latter far, far outweigh the former.

Yes, I agree with you. Sightseeing was me avoiding the reality. There will always be people who want to see things for themselves as they will not believe anything unless they see it personally. The TikTok people are a different matter entirely, they seem to view life via their cameras and revel in their followers, strange bunch.

Rosemary

Rosemary Nov 13th 2024 6:38 pm

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Italy is suffering floods similar to Spain.

Rosemary

Lynn R Nov 13th 2024 6:51 pm

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Originally Posted by growinspain (Post 13285481)
These situations do not happen here in Europe.. They have no clue to what to do...
8 tornadoes above Valencia struck during the storm.... Never before...
it is a new world....

A tornado hit the city of Malaga on 1 February 2009, it took the roof off the main bus station and 21 people were injured. There were reports of smaller ones in some inland areas during yesterday's storms and some waterspouts out at sea.

1 February 2009: Tornado causes eight million euros of damage across Malaga | Sur in English

We had more rain overnight but nothing out of the ordinary. This morning it looks beautiful and sunny, no more rain on the weather forecast until next Tuesday at the moment. We will venture out later and go down to the coast, I don't think there will be any hazardous conditions apart from maybe some residual standing water on the roads in places. A few years ago there was bad flooding in the centre of Málaga and pictures in the press of people canoeing down main roads, and 48 hours later it was as though nothing had happened.

There was some quite extensive flooding down near Torre del Mar yesterday after a river burst its banks, and two campsites and the "shanty town" on the outskirts of the town were evacuated and the people taken to emergency reception centres. But the authorities in general seemed to handle the situation pretty well and put predetermined plans into action.

El desbordamiento del río Vélez obliga al desalojo de 1.000 personas

1sexsmith Nov 13th 2024 6:57 pm

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On La Hora just now they are talking about how all construction of essentially tourist homes / second homes should be immediately halted in high risk zones. They are really angry that many of the areas do not have a anything like the required infra structures to deal with the numbers of people simply visiting these areas and that public investment needs to be focussed on drainage systems and replanning not attracting private investors in property. So again this points to Spain starting to reevalue it's bloated tourist and construction industry and the need for locals to be safely provided with homes

Rosemary Nov 13th 2024 7:31 pm

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It has rained constantly here and still ongoing with messages from the town hall reminding people of the dangers.

Rosemary

Plorntus Nov 13th 2024 7:41 pm

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Last night the rain woke us up at 3-4am, some of the worst I've heard with constant thunder. We rent a top floor apartment in Marbella center and this morning woke up to a puddle in one of the rooms so that's going to be fun to get the landlord/I guess building owners to fix.

It was enough of a leak to be concerned (I suppose any amount is concerning) but thankfully not enough to damage anything yet.

Lynn R Nov 13th 2024 7:53 pm

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Originally Posted by Plorntus (Post 13285519)
Last night the rain woke us up at 3-4am, some of the worst I've heard with constant thunder. We rent a top floor apartment in Marbella center and this morning woke up to a puddle in one of the rooms so that's going to be fun to get the landlord/I guess building owners to fix.

It was enough of a leak to be concerned (I suppose any amount is concerning) but thankfully not enough to damage anything yet.

I hope you get it sorted soon, although people to affect the repairs will probably be very busy because of demand following these storms, so delays are to be expected. We also live on the top floor and possible leaks from the roof were my main concern yesterday, although we've had heavy rain before and never any problems. I put my head out of the door yesterday afternoon just to check there wasn't any water getting in on the corridor or down the stairs if water was seeping under the door to the roof, but it was all dry thankfully. The drain for our terrace is actually on next door's terrace so my husband asked the neighbour if he could remove the grating before the heaviest rain started, as it can be slow to drain sometimes with that in place. He obliged immediately and the terrace drained well.

Lynn R Nov 13th 2024 8:03 pm

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35 years almost to the day since the last really serious floods in the city of Málaga, when 6 people were killed on 14 November 1989. The precautions put in place since that time prevented a repetition of that at least.

¿La historia se repite? Hoy se cumplen 35 años de las inundaciones en Málaga de 1989 | Diario Sur

The worst ever flooding in this area was in 1907, however, when 21 people were killed in the city and over 200 in the province as a whole. That was the fourth in a series of serious floods since the beginning of the 20th century.

Flood of 1907 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Joppa Nov 13th 2024 8:13 pm

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Originally Posted by Lynn R (Post 13285523)
35 years almost to the day since the last really serious floods in the city of Málaga, when 6 people were killed on 14 November 1989. The precautions put in place since that time prevented a repetition of that at least.

What happened in Valencia was that when the last big flooding happened, it struck the historical centre and they did extensive flood precaution works to prevent its recurrence. So this time around the old centre was more or less unaffected (and most of the volunteers came from there) but hit the inner and outer suburbs hard.

Rosemary Nov 13th 2024 8:21 pm

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Alert has changed from red to orange so that is one step forward (hopefully).

Rosemary


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