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Old Oct 9th 2017 | 6:47 am
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I know nobody has got a crystal ball re Brexit etc but I would really appreciate some advice.

We have received an offer on our house today, so on one hand I'm thrilled but on the other hand I'm wondering if we're making a big mistake? We have resigned ourselves to the fact that we may have to pay for our own healthcare forever so that's not the most pressing issue but I'm really worried that all the UK government seem concerned about is the rights of EU citizens in the UK-nothing is ever said about UK citizens in the EU!

What are the chances (hopefully we'll have residencia by then) that come 2019, Spain would kick us out?

Thanks a lot
 
Old Oct 9th 2017 | 7:46 am
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No-one can possibly answer your question, none of us know. The subject is discussed thoroughly in Take It Outside so maybe the thought of members in that section will help you.

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Where is Take it Outside located please Rosemary?
 
Old Oct 9th 2017 | 8:17 am
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Originally Posted by infomaniac

What are the chances (hopefully we'll have residencia by then) that come 2019, Spain would kick us out?

Thanks a lot
Why would Spain kick us out??

English residents, holidaymakers and house buyers bring more money into Spain than any other nation.
 
Old Oct 9th 2017 | 8:53 am
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Hola

Prime minister Rajoy has publically stated he wants people from the UK to continue coming to Spain. Pensioners get paid monthly and non resident home owners pay taxes for owning a home here.

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Where is Take it Outside located please Rosemary?
In the General section here...

Take it Outside! - British Expats
 
Old Oct 9th 2017 | 9:15 am
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If you have signed on the register of foreigners and have been on it for 5 years or more, you have the legal right of permanent residence in Spain, whatever happens with Brexit.
 
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Originally Posted by infomaniac
I'm really worried that all the UK government seem concerned about is the rights of EU citizens in the UK-nothing is ever said about UK citizens in the EU
That is taking the UK only view though. As far as I see from what I have seen and heard the EU is insisting that residents rights both EU residents in UK and UK residents in EU at time of leaving must be sorted out and dealt with the same by all parties to negotiations. The uk has stated if agreement is reached in negotiations it intends to retain in the final deal health care for pensioners resident using, continue Ehic and annual state pension increases. Obviously if negotiations fail and no deal is done then who knows? They have only this week it would seem started looking at that possibility. As for being thrown out I can't see that at all.
 
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Originally Posted by Fred James
If you have signed on the register of foreigners and have been on it for 5 years or more, you have the legal right of permanent residence in Spain, whatever happens with Brexit.
As we are still in the UK we won't have been on it for 5 years or more though
 
Old Oct 9th 2017 | 7:40 pm
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Originally Posted by bobd22
That is taking the UK only view though. As far as I see from what I have seen and heard the EU is insisting that residents rights both EU residents in UK and UK residents in EU at time of leaving must be sorted out and dealt with the same by all parties to negotiations. The uk has stated if agreement is reached in negotiations it intends to retain in the final deal health care for pensioners resident using, continue Ehic and annual state pension increases. Obviously if negotiations fail and no deal is done then who knows? They have only this week it would seem started looking at that possibility. As for being thrown out I can't see that at all.
That's great, thanks. I agree that it's very unlikely so you have all put my mind at rest...a bit!
 
Old Oct 11th 2017 | 8:07 am
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Keep your UK house ,rent it out then rent in Spain , this will give you the freedom to move around in Spain til you find a place you are comfortable in , if it all goes wrong in Spain you can move back into your UK house ....simples......good luck,

I dont think Spain will chuck Brits out however it could become more complicated (expensive) to reside in Spain.

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Old Oct 11th 2017 | 8:18 am
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From what I have discovered so far, even if Brexit goes pear-shaped you are able to fall back on some sensible EU laws that allow you some accrued rights. (As mentioned above in the case of Spain.) Many expats have been out of the UK for some time and besides being denied any kind of say in the Brexit vote, UK doesn't really have much interest in you any more once you've been away for 15 years or more. A lot of what is flying about is just scaremongering. Nobody can predict the future..that doesn't mean you should give up on yours. Good luck!
 
Old Oct 11th 2017 | 8:55 am
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Rotor & Calman, thanks very much for your replies.

I can see how it would be a good idea to keep our house in the UK on, but we would never do it...heard too many horror stories. We know where we want to be but just can't find a house there at the moment :-(
 
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Originally Posted by infomaniac
Rotor & Calman, thanks very much for your replies.

I can see how it would be a good idea to keep our house in the UK on, but we would never do it...heard too many horror stories. We know where we want to be but just can't find a house there at the moment :-(
You`ll hear a huge amount more horror stories about house ownership in Spain...seriously!

It would be very naive /foolhardy to buy in Spain in the current political climate , dont make yourself a victim!
 
Old Oct 11th 2017 | 7:18 pm
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Thanks Rotor. In my opinion the whole world is going to hell in a handcart and anything could happen so I want to have a bit of fun while I still can!
 


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