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steviedeluxe Mar 28th 2012 3:57 am

Property prices increase...
 
Ok, so it's probably a rare occurrence, but it shows that there are still buyers out there when the price is right.

Santander decided to offload properties in Seseña (an infamous building development in Toledo province).
In just 3 weeks the minimum price of a property there has gone from 65,000 to 78,000.
It's not a place that would appeal to anyone here I think - it's aimed more at families who commute to Madrid and can't afford the high property prices there.

Article is in Spanish

http://www.idealista.com/news/archiv...-sesena-toledo

According to this news report, more than 400 units sold! Astounding, really.

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2012/0...332876562.html

steviedeluxe Mar 28th 2012 7:01 am

Re: Property prices increase...
 
Apparently this was a video promo by Santander for these properties. I suppose they look fine inside, but very bleak from the outside!


fionamw Mar 28th 2012 7:15 am

Re: Property prices increase...
 

Originally Posted by steviedeluxe (Post 9977365)
Apparently this was a video promo by Santander for these properties. I suppose they look fine inside, but very bleak from the outside!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=w748QMOwmSs

Bleak's not the word:ohmy:

steviedeluxe Mar 28th 2012 7:22 am

Re: Property prices increase...
 

Originally Posted by fionamw (Post 9977381)
Bleak's not the word:ohmy:

Well yes, and yet the buyers have swarmed in apparently. Just shows how tight the market must be for reasonably priced places in Madrid - I'm assuming most of the buyers work in Madrid but want to have a place their family can live.

Dick Dasterdly Mar 28th 2012 10:52 am

Re: Property prices increase...
 

Originally Posted by steviedeluxe (Post 9977112)
Ok, so it's probably a rare occurrence, but it shows that there are still buyers out there when the price is right.

Santander decided to offload properties in Seseña (an infamous building development in Toledo province).
In just 3 weeks the minimum price of a property there has gone from 65,000 to 78,000.
It's not a place that would appeal to anyone here I think - it's aimed more at families who commute to Madrid and can't afford the high property prices there.



According to this news report, more than 400 units sold! Astounding, really.

Ever the eternal optimist Stevie, though I suppose it's kind of you to try lifting a little bit of the doom and gloom for a short while at least.

Not really astounding though at those sort of prices.

More a sign of desperation unfortunately methinks, that such a godforsaken place is the best many can hope for at present.

steviedeluxe Mar 28th 2012 7:16 pm

Re: Property prices increase...
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 9977712)
Ever the eternal optimist Stevie, though I suppose it's kind of you to try lifting a little bit of the doom and gloom for a short while at least.

Not really astounding though at those sort of prices.

More a sign of desperation unfortunately methinks, that such a godforsaken place is the best many can hope for at present.

Actually, if a an average wage is say 18k, then I don't think 65 or 73k is an astonishing low price , in fact that should be more the level for a starter place. It's only about 12 years ago that you could get houses in many midlands and northern cities starting from about 35k.
400 homes sold in just 3 days. I still think it's quite astonishing considering no-one's supposed to have any money.

avocados Mar 28th 2012 8:23 pm

Re: Property prices increase...
 
As I've said before, the market for good properties is very strong. They are getting snapped up very quickly by clever buyers.

It's only the rubbish that is left and they'll dump that on foreigners when the time is right.

Spain has a very bright future. By 2025, I expect Spain to be the number 2 country, not only in the Eurozone, but in Europe, overtaking UK, France and Italy who are all a bit jaded.

The Spanish are very good at adapting to changing circumstances or austerity as it's currently called. Today's strike will be forgotten in a couple of days.

Don't be fooled by the doom and gloom, it's all just media spin.

jackytoo Mar 28th 2012 10:10 pm

Re: Property prices increase...
 
many Spanish dismiss this story as sales hype. Perhaps there were only a couple of tempters at 65,000 to generate interest. Businesses do this all the time. How many times have we seen in the media, and on this forum that agents are selling them like pasties. They have been saying it for years yet sales and prices are still dropping. On one spanish forum this comment says it is lies and trolling, it points out that to sell 400 in that amount of time is impossible administrationally!

Mentira y GORDA. Para vender 400 pisos en 3 dias tendrian que haber ido a un ritmo de 2 o 3 minutos por piso y eso es imposible, solamente en sentarse a la mesa y explicarles la financiacion o caracteristicas de la vivienda se va mucho mas de eso. Una trola intentando crear sensación de que se acaban y luego van a estar mas caros. Lo dicho MENTIRA.

steviedeluxe Mar 28th 2012 10:20 pm

Re: Property prices increase...
 
Poor Jacky. Getting upset by positive news in Spain.

Domino Mar 28th 2012 10:22 pm

Re: Property prices increase...
 

Originally Posted by steviedeluxe (Post 9978373)
Poor Jacky. Getting upset by positive news in Spain.

especially if she is reminded that many of those who are watching but not contributing cannot speak or read Spanish
:rofl:

Domino Mar 28th 2012 10:24 pm

Re: Property prices increase...
 

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 9978364)
many Spanish dismiss this story as sales hype. Perhaps there were only a couple of tempters at 65,000 to generate interest. Businesses do this all the time. How many times have we seen in the media, and on this forum that agents are selling them like pasties. They have been saying it for years yet sales and prices are still dropping. On one spanish forum this comment says it is lies and trolling, it points out that to sell 400 in that amount of time is impossible administrationally!

Mentira y GORDA. Para vender 400 pisos en 3 dias tendrian que haber ido a un ritmo de 2 o 3 minutos por piso y eso es imposible, solamente en sentarse a la mesa y explicarles la financiacion o caracteristicas de la vivienda se va mucho mas de eso. Una trola intentando crear sensación de que se acaban y luego van a estar mas caros. Lo dicho MENTIRA.

thought Pasties were a rude word in the UK at the moment over VAT but also since Mr Cameroon professed a love for them but the BBC has reported the company concerned ceased trading 5 years ago.

jackytoo Mar 28th 2012 10:26 pm

Re: Property prices increase...
 
Well there weren't my comments:p Anyway that positive story is a flea on an elephants ear. Why would it upset me:confused: I have friends and relatives in Spain who i am very fond of and feel sorry for them. Just balancing out the hype to prevent others making the mistake of thinking there will be a turnaround soon...cos there won't!

steviedeluxe Mar 28th 2012 10:26 pm

Re: Property prices increase...
 

Originally Posted by Domino (Post 9978377)
especially if she is reminded that many of those who are watching but not contributing cannot speak or read Spanish
:rofl:

Well she's probably (edit, cant be 100%) quoting from a comment posted on Burbuja - the Spanish equivalent of HousePriceCrash forum - a site she's rubbished in the past!

jackytoo Mar 28th 2012 10:30 pm

Re: Property prices increase...
 

Originally Posted by Domino (Post 9978377)
especially if she is reminded that many of those who are watching but not contributing cannot speak or read Spanish
:rofl:

Well I did translate the gist of it and how difficult is it to change it to English, not a novel just 3 sentences. :rofl:

Domino Mar 28th 2012 10:39 pm

Re: Property prices increase...
 

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 9978382)
Well there weren't my comments:p Anyway that positive story is a flea on an elephants ear. Why would it upset me:confused: I have friends and relatives in Spain who i am very fond of and feel sorry for them. Just balancing out the hype to prevent others making the mistake of thinking there will be a turnaround soon...cos there won't!

Jacky its nice to have feelings for the friends and family, things will change, but it will take time. In the same way as it did 20-25 years ago.

What Spain needs now is really positive stories about export wins, large companies moving in etc etc not gum flapping from a house salesman

who if employing 10 sales people on commission only would probably be able to make those sales if the buyers are really there and ready to go. Its surprising how fast a gullible buyer will gobble up the patter and sign on the dotted line if they think they are getting something someone else isnt.

Pride and Fall come into it somewhere


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