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lynnxa Aug 9th 2012 7:02 pm

Re: Proof of income for residency
 

Originally Posted by billgates (Post 10219820)
When I first applied for residency my finger prints were taken.

When I applied to renew my residency they weren't, and I'm sure that no-one else had theirs taken either, and some of them were applying for their first residency.

So maybe this is something else they have stopped doing?

they haven't done that since they changed the rules from 'applying for residency' to 'registering as resident' in 2007

Rosemary Aug 9th 2012 8:39 pm

Re: Proof of income for residency
 

Originally Posted by lynnxa (Post 10219832)
they haven't done that since they changed the rules from 'applying for residency' to 'registering as resident' in 2007

We moved here and did ours in 2006 and did not have our fingerprint taken so maybe some offices started early.

Rosemary

mikeglover Aug 11th 2012 7:58 pm

Re: Proof of income for residency
 

Originally Posted by billgates (Post 10116264)
What's with the entitlement attitude that so many brits have?
I hear it all the time, just because someone has "been paying into the system all my life" why do they expect to be able to "get something back"?

I mean, you pay car insurance for years and never make a claim. Do you then expect a refund? No. And if you stop paying your car insurance and then have an accident you suddenly find that you aren't covered. As expected.
So why with the uk National Insurance that everyone in the uk pays do people still expect to be able to claim on it long after they have stopped actually paying into it?

Oh, and I agree about the bankers. They should be strung up.

Ive not reached retirement age yet but is it true that Brits who retire out here still get the UK winter fuel allowance? if so, do most of them opt out of receiving it ?

lynnxa Aug 11th 2012 8:05 pm

Re: Proof of income for residency
 

Originally Posted by mikeglover (Post 10222732)
Ive not reached retirement age yet but is it true that Brits who retire out here still get the UK winter fuel allowance? if so, do most of them opt out of receiving it ?

I doubt many would opt out of receiving it - it gets pretty chilly in winter here & the houses tend to be really expensive to heat - I know my heating bills in winter are far more than my dad's were in the UK & he kept his house sweltering, whereas mine rarely gets up to 20º


it used to be that if you got the winter fuel allowance before leaving the UK you continued to get it - but I think the rules have changed now & all pensioners can claim it

http://ukinspain.fco.gov.uk/en/help-...fits/benefits/

whitelinen Aug 11th 2012 8:07 pm

Re: Proof of income for residency
 

Originally Posted by mikeglover (Post 10222732)
Ive not reached retirement age yet but is it true that Brits who retire out here still get the UK winter fuel allowance? if so, do most of them opt out of receiving it ?


Do millionaires opt out of receiving benefits, thinking here of Cameron not opting out..............

I wouldnt opt out either if I was eligible for winter fuel allowance, my heating oil bill is well over €1400 for the winter.

Lynn R Aug 11th 2012 8:08 pm

Re: Proof of income for residency
 

Originally Posted by mikeglover (Post 10222732)
Ive not reached retirement age yet but is it true that Brits who retire out here still get the UK winter fuel allowance? if so, do most of them opt out of receiving it ?

I didn't think it was possible to "opt out" of receiving the winter fuel allowance - I seem to remember a campaign endorsed by a number of celebrities to encourage people who felt they didn't need it to donate it to charity or pass it on to a less well off pensioner?

mikeglover Aug 11th 2012 8:22 pm

Re: Proof of income for residency
 
Well said all, i agree that as i have paid into the system and the system allows me to have a winter fuel allowance when i retire (sods law, they will scrap it just as i reach retirement age - which also keeps changing before i can reach it), i will gladly accept the allowance (it gets pretty chill up here in the mountains). I wonder also, how many of the people who reckon that as we have left the UK, we are not entitled to anything, still decided to get a S1 from Newcastle before they came over here (before state retirement age). Which reminds me, as i live over here, can i still get one when i reach retirement age?

lynnxa Aug 11th 2012 8:27 pm

Re: Proof of income for residency
 

Originally Posted by mikeglover (Post 10222758)
Well said all, i agree that as i have paid into the system and the system allows me to have a winter fuel allowance when i retire (sods law, they will scrap it just as i reach retirement age - which also keeps changing before i can reach it), i will gladly accept the allowance (it gets pretty chill up here in the mountains). I wonder also, how many of the people who reckon that as we have left the UK, we are not entitled to anything, still decided to get a S1 from Newcastle before they came over here (before state retirement age). Which reminds me, as i live over here, can i still get one when i reach retirement age?

once you reach retirement age you will automatically have your healthcare here paid by the UK via the S1 - they'll send it to you



as it stands atm of course...............

tommy.irene Aug 11th 2012 9:58 pm

Re: Proof of income for residency
 

Originally Posted by lynnxa (Post 10222765)
once you reach retirement age you will automatically have your healthcare here paid by the UK via the S1 - they'll send it to you



as it stands atm of course...............

Only if you ask them.. how does a computer know you moved to Spain,,, and yes we still get the winter fuel payment..:thumbsup:

lynnxa Aug 11th 2012 10:06 pm

Re: Proof of income for residency
 

Originally Posted by tommy.irene (Post 10222898)
Only if you ask them.. how does a computer know you moved to Spain,,, and yes we still get the winter fuel payment..:thumbsup:

the computer will surely have your address

how else will it know where to send the pension info letters ?

tommy.irene Aug 12th 2012 3:46 am

Re: Proof of income for residency
 

Originally Posted by lynnxa (Post 10222905)
the computer will surely have your address

how else will it know where to send the pension info letters ?

I had to ring the penson office and fill the form in over the phone ,that i had moved to Spain..they dont inform you.. you inform them..

lynnxa Aug 12th 2012 4:09 am

Re: Proof of income for residency
 

Originally Posted by tommy.irene (Post 10223247)
I had to ring the penson office and fill the form in over the phone ,that i had moved to Spain..they dont inform you.. you inform them..


of course you had to inform them that you live in Spain - wouldn't you tell them of any change of address:confused:

what I mean is - assuming they know your address (wherever that may be) - the forms would be sent to you & when you get your pension you will automatically get the S1 if that address is in Spain (or anywhere else you can use it)

I recently received S1 forms from myself & my children - I didn't have to ask for them - they just appeared in my letter box

snikpoh Aug 12th 2012 4:23 am

Re: Proof of income for residency
 

Originally Posted by lynnxa (Post 10223273)
of course you had to inform them that you live in Spain - wouldn't you tell them of any change of address:confused:

what I mean is - assuming they know your address (wherever that may be) - the forms would be sent to you & when you get your pension you will automatically get the S1 if that address is in Spain (or anywhere else you can use it)

I recently received S1 forms from myself & my children - I didn't have to ask for them - they just appeared in my letter box


I think something has been lost in translation.

As an early retiree, I haven't informed the 'pensions office' (DWP I assume) that I am in Spain. Should I have done?

When I get close to retirement age, I assume that I will have to inform them then and wait for the forms - they won't be able to send them to me which I think is what was being said.

Rosemary Aug 12th 2012 4:31 am

Re: Proof of income for residency
 

Originally Posted by snikpoh (Post 10223289)
I think something has been lost in translation.

As an early retiree, I haven't informed the 'pensions office' (DWP I assume) that I am in Spain. Should I have done?

When I get close to retirement age, I assume that I will have to inform them then and wait for the forms - they won't be able to send them to me which I think is what was being said.

We retired early and requested the relevant form at that time to enable us to receive the 2 years healthcare. However, 3 or 4 months before each of us were due to receive our state pension we had to contact them to ensure that we could complete the pensions forms. Maybe things have changed but this was only a couple of years ago and as far as I remember we had to request further forms for the healthcare element.

Rosemary

lynnxa Aug 12th 2012 4:39 am

Re: Proof of income for residency
 

Originally Posted by snikpoh (Post 10223289)
I think something has been lost in translation.

As an early retiree, I haven't informed the 'pensions office' (DWP I assume) that I am in Spain. Should I have done?

When I get close to retirement age, I assume that I will have to inform them then and wait for the forms - they won't be able to send them to me which I think is what was being said.

I hadn't either until recently

I thought you'd had S1s when you came over though?

they'd know you live in Spain then, surely


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