Proof of Builders Tax status??
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Proof of Builders Tax status??
Hi Everyone,
Sorry to make my first post about a problem, but I hope someone can help and I can move on to happier contributions!
I have recently been reluctantly invoiced by a builder who did everything he could to avoid sending a bill. Eventually agreed, but said he would have to add IVA. Ok, no problem, I don’t mind paying IVA, of course, but I’m not convinced he is registered self-employed and so will simply gain from the increased amount. Can I legitimately ask him for proof he is registered as an autonomo?
Thanks for any comments in advance,
Mike
Sorry to make my first post about a problem, but I hope someone can help and I can move on to happier contributions!
I have recently been reluctantly invoiced by a builder who did everything he could to avoid sending a bill. Eventually agreed, but said he would have to add IVA. Ok, no problem, I don’t mind paying IVA, of course, but I’m not convinced he is registered self-employed and so will simply gain from the increased amount. Can I legitimately ask him for proof he is registered as an autonomo?
Thanks for any comments in advance,
Mike
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Re: Proof of Builders Tax status??
Hi Everyone,
Sorry to make my first post about a problem, but I hope someone can help and I can move on to happier contributions!
I have recently been reluctantly invoiced by a builder who did everything he could to avoid sending a bill. Eventually agreed, but said he would have to add IVA. Ok, no problem, I don’t mind paying IVA, of course, but I’m not convinced he is registered self-employed and so will simply gain from the increased amount. Can I legitimately ask him for proof he is registered as an autonomo?
Thanks for any comments in advance,
Mike
Sorry to make my first post about a problem, but I hope someone can help and I can move on to happier contributions!
I have recently been reluctantly invoiced by a builder who did everything he could to avoid sending a bill. Eventually agreed, but said he would have to add IVA. Ok, no problem, I don’t mind paying IVA, of course, but I’m not convinced he is registered self-employed and so will simply gain from the increased amount. Can I legitimately ask him for proof he is registered as an autonomo?
Thanks for any comments in advance,
Mike
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Re: Proof of Builders Tax status??
Hi Jo,
Thanks for the reply.
I thought the NIF number was to say you were registered in Spain as a resident foreigner.
Does that also prove you are self-employed, can that number be checked anywhere?
Thanks,
Mike
Thanks for the reply.
I thought the NIF number was to say you were registered in Spain as a resident foreigner.
Does that also prove you are self-employed, can that number be checked anywhere?
Thanks,
Mike
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Re: Proof of Builders Tax status??
Hi,
Thanks.
He's a stroppy sort. Have I the right to demand these doc's, or perhaps a copy of his modelo 036 or 037. I'll demand anyway, just curious to see if I'm within my rights.
He's only given me his NIE.
Thanks again.
Mike
Thanks.
He's a stroppy sort. Have I the right to demand these doc's, or perhaps a copy of his modelo 036 or 037. I'll demand anyway, just curious to see if I'm within my rights.
He's only given me his NIE.
Thanks again.
Mike
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NIE - for people like us, foreigners
DNI - for Spanish nationals
NIF - for autonomos
CIF - for companies
... am I correct about the last 2?
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Did you make it clear you wanted a VAT reciept when you contracted him?
Why are you intent on paying IVA?You cant claim it back
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Re: Proof of Builders Tax status??
I could be wrong here, but if you're wanting a receipt/factura for insurance purposes, the insurance company wont pay without the correct numbers etc written on it
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Re: Proof of Builders Tax status??
Why do you care now, you should have checked before work was done.
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Re: Proof of Builders Tax status??
(a proper receipt with all the correct identification numbers is needed)
If any damage to the property results from bad workmanship then the contractor who caused the problem would be liable on his insurance.
And then the inevitable ping pong of blame would start, but without the relevant details, your insurance company would reject any claim that you make.
Also if there was a death or serious injury due to a botched job on your property the consequences could be dire.
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Re: Proof of Builders Tax status??
Getting back to the original question: yes, you can. If your builder is registered and he's charging IVA, his invoice must contain his IVA number and company name (or autonomo? name). The tax authorities will be able to confirm that the number and name refer to your builder .... or not.
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If your builder said he was not going to charge you IVA then you can not exopect an IVA reciept, this is common practice in many trades, my lawyer even knocked the VAT of for cash on a 2k bill!!!sure its illegal but its not like the UK here and you need to remember this if you want to get along in Spain.
If everyone suddenly went by the book unemployment would double overnight-fact!
I dont like it either but when in Rome.......
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Re: Proof of Builders Tax status??
Hi,
I said to him that I wanted an invoice for the work from the outset - the job was an expense against income. He agreed to this.
As I said, I have no objection to paying IVA - what if I had! - I simply don't want give him extra money which he will pocket.
Thanks for the input.
I'll just withold the tax element until he gives me some proof.
I don't think that is unreasonable.
Mike
I said to him that I wanted an invoice for the work from the outset - the job was an expense against income. He agreed to this.
As I said, I have no objection to paying IVA - what if I had! - I simply don't want give him extra money which he will pocket.
Thanks for the input.
I'll just withold the tax element until he gives me some proof.
I don't think that is unreasonable.
Mike
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Re: Proof of Builders Tax status??
Isn’t this a bit like standing at the checkout in Carrefour, with a TV in your trolley, and deducting the IVA before paying the bill unless they proved to you that they had paid their taxes? I wouldn’t try it.
Whether a trader has paid his tax bill is none of your business.
Whether a trader has paid his tax bill is none of your business.