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Old Nov 1st 2011 | 5:25 am
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Originally Posted by Lenox
Coca Cola? Try and say 'Seven Up'. It's not 'siete oop' but 'Se-ben'. Turns out, they only had Sprite anyway (not 'espritay' but 'es-prai').
Brand names in general, pronounce them as a Spaniard would.!
why.?,
$billions has been spent on the brand, the writing, the name and the said words. Can I help it if a Spaniard cannot understand a simple double barrelled word that is known by that name from Aalborg to Zamboanga.!
its almost as well known as Manchester United.
 
Old Nov 1st 2011 | 5:38 am
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Originally Posted by Domino
why.?,
$billions has been spent on the brand, the writing, the name and the said words. Can I help it if a Spaniard cannot understand a simple double barrelled word that is known by that name from Aalborg to Zamboanga.!
its almost as well known as Manchester United.
To be fair most Brits seem to have problems pronouncing "San Miguel" or "plaza" correctly.
 
Old Nov 1st 2011 | 6:08 am
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Originally Posted by steviedeluxe
To be fair most Brits seem to have problems pronouncing "San Miguel" or "plaza" correctly.
I never had a problem with San Miguel in Hong Kong,,,

Coca-Cola is an international, no boundaries word.
 
Old Nov 1st 2011 | 6:12 am
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Originally Posted by stuboy
Whenever I try to pronounce words like

Hijo/hija/trabajar/and others similar I cant ever get it correct. People look at me odd and I can see they are trying to compute what i am trying to say.

Anybody got any tips?
the "j" is usually pronounced like the "ch" in Loch as in Loch Lomond. Listen to Diana Speed or other broadcasters reading the UK shipping forecasts on internet radio/satellite.
She's brilliant. The Loch sound is never voiced. That's roughly your "j".
I cannot for the life of me roll my r's.

Hope it helps.
 
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Originally Posted by Domino
I never had a problem with San Miguel in Hong Kong,,,

Coca-Cola is an international, no boundaries word.
So is "Zara", yet by your argument all Brits pronounce it wrong!

You are in Spain, you should learn how to say Coca Cola so Spanish people understand you. The responsibility lies with you
 
Old Nov 1st 2011 | 6:41 am
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Originally Posted by retired in euzkadi
the "j" is usually pronounced like the "ch" in Loch as in Loch Lomond. Listen to Diana Speed or other broadcasters reading the UK shipping forecasts on internet radio/satellite.
She's brilliant. The Loch sound is never voiced. That's roughly your "j".
I cannot for the life of me roll my r's.

Hope it helps.
funnily enough I was getting my group in the bar to practice rrrrrrrs this morning & an old Spanish gent on the next table interrupted the class & dictated this to me - he says it's really good practice for those rrrrrrrrrrrrrrs!

Había un perro debajo de un carro y vino otro perro y le mordió el rabo. Pobre perrito como lloraba sin su rabito.
 
Old Nov 1st 2011 | 6:49 am
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Originally Posted by lynnxa
funnily enough I was getting my group in the bar to practice rrrrrrrs this morning & an old Spanish gent on the next table interrupted the class & dictated this to me - he says it's really good practice for those rrrrrrrrrrrrrrs!

Había un perro debajo de un carro y vino otro perro y le mordió el rabo. Pobre perrito como lloraba sin su rabito.
I like

El perro de San Roque no tiene rabo, porque Ramon Ramirez ha robado.
 
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Originally Posted by retired in euzkadi
I cannot for the life of me roll my r's.

Hope it helps.
Hows your Euskera?

Last time I was in the Basque country I had to speak English because my friend said we wouldnt get served at the bar speaking in Castellano
 
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Originally Posted by bil
I like

El perro de San Roque no tiene rabo, porque Ramon Ramirez ha robado.
almost...

"El perro de San Roque no tiene rabo, porque Ramon Ramirez LO ha robado"
 
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Originally Posted by cricketman
So is "Zara", yet by your argument all Brits pronounce it wrong!

You are in Spain, you should learn how to say Coca Cola so Spanish people understand you. The responsibility lies with you
you have a point, it is not like pronouced like Zara Philips....
 
Old Nov 1st 2011 | 7:05 am
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Originally Posted by bil
I like

El perro de San Roque no tiene rabo, porque Ramon Ramirez ha robado.
I do too - but it doesn't have as many rrrrrrrrrrrrs!

we often have some fun with trabalenguas - they're really good for pronunciation & I have a few links to youtube trabalenguas on the blog I run for my students

here are a couple





 
Old Nov 1st 2011 | 8:19 am
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Originally Posted by cricketman
Hows your Euskera?

Last time I was in the Basque country I had to speak English because my friend said we wouldnt get served at the bar speaking in Castellano
nik euskera ikasten dut!! Baina apurtxa bat.
It's rudimentary, to say the least. Depends where you are; in Bilbao, not so much spoken, but here in Elorrio, quite a lot. In Donostia also, but there the Basque is nearer to Batua (cf BBC English!!).
If people think Tapas are good, down south, then they need educating with the "pintxos" here. (pronounced pincho). So much better, but then I'm biased!!
It's a devil of a language, but important to preserve. I fear the PP will win on Nov 20th, so not sure how things will pan out.
 
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Originally Posted by cricketman
almost...

"El perro de San Roque no tiene rabo, porque Ramon Ramirez LO ha robado"
impossible!!
 
Old Nov 1st 2011 | 10:05 am
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Originally Posted by cricketman
So is "Zara", yet by your argument all Brits pronounce it wrong!

You are in Spain, you should learn how to say Coca Cola so Spanish people understand you. The responsibility lies with you
Well I just ask for a Bacardi y Cola, and I get Coca Cola with the Bacardi.

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Originally Posted by Domino
so when asking for Coca Cola why do I get a blank look ?
Perhaps she thought you wanted a Spanish pizza = coca?

Why not order Pepsi instead?

Or, how about a zarzaparrilla? (Try saying that when you're thirsty)
 


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