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Xisle Jun 4th 2022 5:41 am

Re: Problems at Manchester airport
 
https://onemileatatime.com/news/heat...senger-charge/

and just to rub a little salt in your wound…

olivefarmer Jun 4th 2022 8:54 am

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That is an interesting article. I think it reflects what all businesses must be thinking.

we can all see inflation, fuel and energy costs rocketing and yet there are folk who think everything should be back to normal as in pre Covid times. Eg cheap flights to the sun.

I agree with Elon Musk that the worlds economy is heading for a downturn. Buy gold.

rspltd Jun 8th 2022 7:29 pm

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The one statistic that seems to be being kept very quiet, is the number of airline staff off sick with Covid due to the removal of the requirement to wear masks. Perhaps having trumpeted how ‘safe’ air travel was, they are now reaping the harvest?

scrubbedexpat147 Jun 12th 2022 7:47 pm

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Originally Posted by rspltd (Post 13120825)
The one statistic that seems to be being kept very quiet, is the number of airline staff off sick with Covid due to the removal of the requirement to wear masks. Perhaps having trumpeted how ‘safe’ air travel was, they are now reaping the harvest?

So you suggest bringing back covid restrictions? Restrictions brought the industry to its knees. People who were layed off have got other jobs in other sectors which can offer better pay and don’t have the paranoia about getting closed by the never ending covid hysteria.

Barriej Jun 12th 2022 9:04 pm

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Originally Posted by rspltd (Post 13120825)
The one statistic that seems to be being kept very quiet, is the number of airline staff off sick with Covid due to the removal of the requirement to wear masks. Perhaps having trumpeted how ‘safe’ air travel was, they are now reaping the harvest?

Air travel 'was' and still is safe from a covid or other airborne virus, the filters on modern aircraft can easily remove 99% of all airborne particles and could have even if planes were allowed to fly and no body wore masks. The incident rate would in all probability been low to acceptable, as long as certain requirements were observed (i.e. having a test at the airport prior to departure and one at the destination, lets say).

The issue with the airlines is simply that most are not actually very good business models and the link I have provided will explain the pain the airline industry was going through before covid. Pay for most budget airlines is at or below minimum due to the contracts that the cabin crew etc sign up for.

Anyway. There you go. read it, its very interesting.

https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/...lobal-aviation



DLC Jun 14th 2022 7:13 am

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Originally Posted by Stingychips (Post 13121500)
So you suggest bringing back covid restrictions? Restrictions brought the industry to its knees. People who were layed off have got other jobs in other sectors which can offer better pay and don’t have the paranoia about getting closed by the never ending covid hysteria.

Well that's a bunch of nonsense, unsurprisingly. How would wearing a mask in a public-facing job and reducing the chances of spreading the virus bring the industry to its knees?

scrubbedexpat147 Jun 15th 2022 2:11 am

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Originally Posted by DLC (Post 13121896)
Well that's a bunch of nonsense, unsurprisingly. How would wearing a mask in a public-facing job and reducing the chances of spreading the virus bring the industry to its knees?

Covid restrictions absolutely devastated the airline industry and the tourism industry. But according to you that is nonsense?

Fredbargate Jun 15th 2022 5:17 am

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I flew into Manchester yesterday
Flight was 20 mins early
Through passport control no real problems
Then to baggage, after 90 mins Gibbraltar was taken off the carousel anouncement
Enquiries revealed this is normal after 90 mins
Enquiries to easyjet revealed that either someone had died or was Killed!!!
This person was an easyjet employee
2+ hours and carousel started and baggage arrived
Through customs no real delay and out
Then my train developed a fault
They were really against me.
Got up 4am UK time arrived at deatination 7-30pm
all for a 3 hour flight

This morning I attended a solicitors office where it transpired that one of their staff was on the flight who confirmed the easyjet death, who was apparently a baggage handler

scrubbedexpat142 Jun 15th 2022 9:08 am

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 13122126)
This morning I attended a solicitors office where it transpired that one of their staff was on the flight who confirmed the easyjet death, who was apparently a baggage handler

How inconsiderate!

DLC Jun 16th 2022 8:16 am

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Originally Posted by Stingychips (Post 13122050)
Covid restrictions absolutely devastated the airline industry and the tourism industry. But according to you that is nonsense?

How does wearing a mask impair airline employees from working? Answer - it doesn't.

scrubbedexpat147 Jun 16th 2022 6:24 pm

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Originally Posted by DLC (Post 13122416)
How does wearing a mask impair airline employees from working? Answer - it doesn't.

i wouldn’t want to be loading suitcases on planes with a face mask on. But I’m sure if people want to wear one they are welcome to do so.

Rosemary Jun 16th 2022 6:48 pm

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Originally Posted by Stingychips (Post 13122475)
i wouldn’t want to be loading suitcases on planes with a face mask on. But I’m sure if people want to wear one they are welcome to do so.

In post 36 DLC emphasized "public facng" employees. No mention of those behind the scenes.

Rosemary

scrubbedexpat147 Jun 16th 2022 10:05 pm

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Originally Posted by Rosemary (Post 13122480)
In post 36 DLC emphasized "public facng" employees. No mention of those behind the scenes.

Rosemary

people can do what they like now which for me is the best solution.Why would airports want more draconian laws forcing people to do things they don’t necessarily want to do. Masks , social distancing , stopping flights coming in and out. Why would airports and holiday makers want a return to this?

old.sparkles Jun 16th 2022 10:28 pm

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Originally Posted by Stingychips (Post 13122532)
people can do what they like now which for me is the best solution.Why would airports want more draconian laws forcing people to do things they don’t necessarily want to do. Masks , social distancing , stopping flights coming in and out. Why would airports and holiday makers want a return to this?

Maybe for the same reasons there are masks on planes?

To keep the business functioning by reducing the number of frontline staff getting covid.

Rosemary Jun 16th 2022 11:07 pm

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Originally Posted by Stingychips (Post 13122532)
people can do what they like now which for me is the best solution.Why would airports want more draconian laws forcing people to do things they don’t necessarily want to do. Masks , social distancing , stopping flights coming in and out. Why would airports and holiday makers want a return to this?

The best solution is never that everyone can do what they like. Ever heard of health and safety? Wearing a mask is the responsible thing to do. Airlines want to continue to provide a service but they will not be able to do this if everyone has a cavalier attitude. Their frontline staff need to be protected from the more ignorant members of the general public. You say draconian laws whilst others are saying that it is common sense to do all that is necessary to maintain peoples health.

Rosemary


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