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Old Dec 21st 2008 | 1:45 am
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Originally Posted by bigglesworth
Strangely - ALL income figures have now been removed from the ONS site.


http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=285
 
Old Dec 21st 2008 | 2:58 am
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When I lived there I found the average wage was always well over what I earned anyway. lol
 
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Originally Posted by leighbloke
My point was to point out that the rental costs you gave - (in a thread intended to inform people in a foregn land unfamiliar with the current cost of living in the UK) - were on their own sufficient to live off very comfortably in most places of the UK - and to use the average wage in the UK to demonstrate this to be the case.

You then said I was wrong, I corrected you, you confirmed my correction and asked why we are talking - this post is intended to clarify to you why we are toing and froing forum postings - if you can't keep up maybe an afternoon nap is in order??


oops - forgot - Think the income average includes pensions and benefits so the overall number of peeps considered in the figures would be nearer 40 - 45 million
My location is given as Kent.
My post is clearly labelled Kent.
About 18 percent of the population live in the North.
Nearly 30 percent live in London and the South East.

The fact that you pay less rent in parts of the country where fewer people want to live is a given. It is also a given that you are likely to get paid less there.
The average household income is very substantially higher in the South, but I absolutely would not dispute that the quality of life is very substantially higher in the North. In the South you would find it very hard if not impossible to live on 18K. I am happy for you that it is cheaper up North. But the chances of finding a job up there are also correspondingly smaller. Take home pay does not include, to the best of my knowledge benefits and pensions, although household income does. Let us not now get into average mean and median which will only confuse no statisticians further. I suggest we accept we are both "wrong" as neither of us is completely right and it is a side issue anyway.
 
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Even more sinister. The median is self-evidently always significantly lower than the average
 
Old Dec 21st 2008 | 5:50 am
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Originally Posted by bigglesworth
My location is given as Kent.
My post is clearly labelled Kent.
About 18 percent of the population live in the North.
Nearly 30 percent live in London and the South East.

The fact that you pay less rent in parts of the country where fewer people want to live is a given. It is also a given that you are likely to get paid less there.
The average household income is very substantially higher in the South, but I absolutely would not dispute that the quality of life is very substantially higher in the North. In the South you would find it very hard if not impossible to live on 18K. I am happy for you that it is cheaper up North. But the chances of finding a job up there are also correspondingly smaller. Take home pay does not include, to the best of my knowledge benefits and pensions, although household income does. Let us not now get into average mean and median which will only confuse no statisticians further. I suggest we accept we are both "wrong" as neither of us is completely right and it is a side issue anyway.
All I was doing was trying to point out to peeps your rent was not indicative of the whole country.
The point about the median is interesting as that really should be significantly higher than the mean if Pareto is right??
Just to defend us here in't frozen North - I don't know many peeps that earn less than the "average" that are in full time work - most of my friends, like me, earn either approching or above the upper threshold - but then I suppose that is typical of peeps sticking with "their own sort"?? Also as far as I can see there are still plenty people going to work in the mornings!!
 
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Actually as you well know i never suggested anything of the sort. In fact quite the opposite.
You seem to be on some weird sort of crusade. And have destroyed a perfectly useful thread. Which, after researching your posts, is plainly a habit. Perhaps I should have done that first
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Originally Posted by bigglesworth
Actually as you well know i never suggested anything of the sort. In fact quite the opposite.
You seem to be on some weird sort of crusade. And have destroyed a perfectly useful thread. Which, after researching your posts, is plainly a habit. Perhaps I should have done that first
Enjoy your self wherever you are.
Sorry that you think I am a crusade - I'm not, and what is it that I know you didn't suggest?? as I'm pretty certain I don't know what it is??
Also If you want to resurrect this topic do it in the general area rather than the Siesta time area - that is where useful stuff should really be posted.

Again sorry.
 
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We steer clear of supermarkets for veg. We go to the local farm shops - half the price and ten times tastier.

Diesel has come down a lot too. At top whack it was 119.9 pence a litre. Now it is 97.9 pence. Not cheap but better than in recent weeks.
 
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Originally Posted by bigglesworth
Actually as you well know i never suggested anything of the sort. In fact quite the opposite.
You seem to be on some weird sort of crusade. And have destroyed a perfectly useful thread. Which, after researching your posts, is plainly a habit. Perhaps I should have done that first
Enjoy your self wherever you are.
My god you do this quite a lot to posters on here!


The contempt you show your fellow forum users is reflection of you, not them....
 
Old Dec 21st 2008 | 7:32 am
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..and the mortgage is cheaper than ever with the interest rate drops. No doubt we will have to pay later
 
Old Dec 21st 2008 | 10:15 am
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Originally Posted by rugbymatt
My god you do this quite a lot to posters on here!


The contempt you show your fellow forum users is reflection of you, not them....
Are you suggesting Biggles is a serial dummy spitter???

Should I withdraw my apology?

I wasn't really sorry but thought he was getting all worked up, and as I don't really care how much rent anyone pays - except for our tenants of course, thought I'd try and calm the waters?
 
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Originally Posted by leighbloke
Are you suggesting Biggles is a serial dummy spitter???

Should I withdraw my apology?

I wasn't really sorry but thought he was getting all worked up, and as I don't really care how much rent anyone pays - except for our tenants of course, thought I'd try and calm the waters?
He had a pop at me the other day for ONLY posting crap, which to be honest isn't far from the truth but even so.....


So, how are you finding the prices in the UK?
 
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Originally Posted by rugbymatt
He had a pop at me the other day for ONLY posting crap, which to be honest isn't far from the truth but even so.....


So, how are you finding the prices in the UK?
I don't even look at the prices, but can't get get 60 quids worth of petrol in the motor anymore - so either someone has thrown a couple of bricks in the tank or petrol is cheaper than it was.
 
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I don't even look at the prices, but can't get get 60 quids worth of petrol in the motor anymore - so either someone has thrown a couple of bricks in the tank or it's cheaper than it was.
yeah here too, when we came up to Norphuk it cost nearly 110 to fill the tank, its about 80 now....
 
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Originally Posted by rugbymatt
yeah here too, when we came up to Norphuk it cost nearly 110 to fill the tank, its about 80 now....
Maybe it's a new form of flytipping - dodgy builders disposing of demolition waste in peeps fuel tanks??? bastards!!!
 


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