I noticed today that PP are proposing that if elected visas will require certain added things than simply financial. They propose a point system as used in UK and other countries. Culture awareness is one such thing and those means you would need some degree of language competence ( same as UK). Might be something to think about if it extends to all Visas.

Other countries in the EU already do this, such as France, where you must show your reasons for living there and demonstrate a reasonable level of proficiency in the language.
I struggle with learning Spanish and might fail if it came to it, but I would agree that you should at least be able to do simple things in the language of the country you choose to emigrate to.

At the end of the day, nothing should be about how rich you may be.

If the UK still had EU freedom of movement it wouldn't be an issue would it and people could still come and go like residential tourists in the same way as Dutch, Belgian, French and German people. EU freedom of movement doesn't involve full scale immigration, that's the beauty of it.

You do realise that the Uk is just one of the 160 odd countries that this will apply to dont you?
You keep bringing up the same old stuff, even though you have an EU passport.
I and many others on this forum who do not have that luxury, make no comments as this is the way it is.
Take it or leave it, its happened and no bleating about it like a little lost lamb will change anything.

Anyway, I have more important things to do and should Spain etc do this, then why not? They can make any requirements for immigrants who wish to live in their countries as easy or as hard as they like to obtain a visa.
EU or not.

If you say so. Yes, I agree that I'm very fortunate to have an Irish passport but not everyone is so lucky and I don't happen to be a selfish "I'm alright Jack" kind of person.

You had better hope that a future (and highly likely) PP/Vox government don't significantly change the rules and make your future in Spain unviable hadn't you. Think about what Farage is proposing in the UK.

Good luck.

Most of us that post on here have the protection of the withdrawal agreement this is to do with visas. Farage had to backtrack after saying he would remove those with indefinite right to remain because those EU citizens resident in the UK pre Brexit have same withdrawal agreement protections. Yes this if it is brought in will be of concern to people wanting to move that need a visa but it's not really different to UK rules.

If the PP governs alone - little will change, the PP does what business wants. If the points-based visa is introduced, the points will add up to make little difference.

If Feijoó's dancing to Abascal's tune - lots of things will change. Vox said they wanted to send back 8 million people - including children born in Spain. Then hours later they said they never said it was 8 million and whoever claimed they did was lying outrageously...

The immigration debate is heating up in Spain as in UK. It's popular with Spanish voters. Again yesterday PP said if elected all foreign residents will need Spanish. If UK elect Farage and he starts to apply strict immigration rules that effect all immigrants even EU ones- the EU will obviously react in kind. Whoever wins next elections in Spain or UK immigration will be the big thing and it is almost certain that residency requirements will include language and culture tests.
https://elpais.com/espana/2025-09-30/puntuar-al-inmigrante-asi-es-el-sistema-anglosajon-de-acogida-que-seduce-a-feijoo.html

Farage has already backtracked re EU residents who were resident in the UK pre Brexit. He had to their rights are protected by withdrawal agreement same for those of us resident in the eu who were resident pre brexit, they are EU protections not individual countries the EU negotiated them. Vox also needs to take into account freedom of movement for EU citizens to stop them becoming resident Vox would need to take Spain out of the EU.

"PP said if elected all foreign residents will need Spanish"

Surly this will apply to new applications and not any resident who already has a permanent TIE?

You're link to elpais is on a subscription page!

Steve

Yep. I would doubt any country, let alone one in a rag tag group that allows free movement without conditions to introduce rules that penalise those already in the country legally.

Could you imagine the court cases from those imergants who have been in the country 20 plus years but don't fully understand the language or know any of the history of the place they moved to. Being threatened with expulsion if they don't comply?
I have friends from school who's parents came from India 60 years ago and who still cannot speak English, would they be included in such a scheme if the UK followed what the idiots here are proposing?

Such a desicion would basically ruin any country that tried it and if that country was an EU one, I reckon it would lead to that country being expelled by the union.

Exactly those of us with TIE issued under the withdrawal agreement have fulfilled the requirements for residency and that cant simply be changed at the whim of a new Spanish government. As Farage has realised same applies to EU citizens with residency in UK protected by withdrawal agreement. Vox could change the requirements for future 3rd country nationals but not future EU citizens without agreement from EU.

El Diario said that the PP's proposal defied analysis because there were so few details given. Also, Rajoy promised a points-based visa in 2008 but nothing came of it. All it looks like at the moment is they just want to stay in the headlines.

If Brexit didn't get us out of Spain, then this headline-grabbing nonsense won't either. End of.