Is it possible to maintain the same NIE with a different passport?
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Dear all, hope someone can help me with this question.
I am dual national British/Irish.
I lived and worked in Spain for 18 years (1995 - 2014) paying tax and social security with a NIE registered with my British passport.
Can I return to Spain using my Irish passport and continue my contributions using the same NIE in order to safeguard my Spanish pension rights?
Thanks for any input!
Rich
I am dual national British/Irish.
I lived and worked in Spain for 18 years (1995 - 2014) paying tax and social security with a NIE registered with my British passport.
Can I return to Spain using my Irish passport and continue my contributions using the same NIE in order to safeguard my Spanish pension rights?
Thanks for any input!
Rich
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Dear all, hope someone can help me with this question.
I am dual national British/Irish.
I lived and worked in Spain for 18 years (1995 - 2014) paying tax and social security with a NIE registered with my British passport.
Can I return to Spain using my Irish passport and continue my contributions using the same NIE in order to safeguard my Spanish pension rights?
Thanks for any input!
Rich
I am dual national British/Irish.
I lived and worked in Spain for 18 years (1995 - 2014) paying tax and social security with a NIE registered with my British passport.
Can I return to Spain using my Irish passport and continue my contributions using the same NIE in order to safeguard my Spanish pension rights?
Thanks for any input!
Rich
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I'm in a similar situation. I am not resident in Spain but I am now fortunate enough to have an Irish passport and was wondering if I should go to a notary with my NIE certificate to get my nationality changed?
It's a very old style NIE certificate obtained in May 1998 so it might need to be updated anyway.
It's a very old style NIE certificate obtained in May 1998 so it might need to be updated anyway.
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Thanks, how do I link that green card to my NIE? How do I prove that I am the same person, or will they even ask?
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I'm in a similar situation. I am not resident in Spain but I am now fortunate enough to have an Irish passport and was wondering if I should go to a notary with my NIE certificate to get my nationality changed?
It's a very old style NIE certificate obtained in May 1998 so it might need to be updated anyway.
It's a very old style NIE certificate obtained in May 1998 so it might need to be updated anyway.
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I suppose the answer is that it's just a Foreign National ID. Regardless of Nationality, it's not a green card and you still have to register residency. Obviously being Irish and still in the EU the normal regulations apply.
https://www.dfa.ie/irish-embassy/spa...-requirements/
https://www.dfa.ie/irish-embassy/spa...-requirements/
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I suppose the answer is that it's just a Foreign National ID. Regardless of Nationality, it's not a green card and you still have to register residency. Obviously being Irish and still in the EU the normal regulations apply.
https://www.dfa.ie/irish-embassy/spa...-requirements/
https://www.dfa.ie/irish-embassy/spa...-requirements/
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I guess you can show both an Irish and a British passport when renewing the green card. Maybe even show them the original expired British passport if you've still kept it so they can check it against the passport number they have on file.
I don't think your nationality (or rather, what nationality Spain thinks you are) affects your ability to draw a pension based on what you've already paid into Spanish social security. The only thing is things are much easier if you apply for residency as an Irish citizen.
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Although you have to show your passport to get either an NIE, Green Residencia or TIE. The passport is not identified on either green residencia or TIE. So on your residencia the number it shows is your NIE which is for life. I'm not sure about Irish passports but Spanish passports I believe retain the same number on renewal but UK ones don't.
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Spanish passports used to just have the DNI as the passport number but that got changed to be a new different number on each new passport, even so the DNI is still present on the details page.
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Not sure, I wish I had your problem. 
I guess you can show both an Irish and a British passport when renewing the green card. Maybe even show them the original expired British passport if you've still kept it so they can check it against the passport number they have on file.
I don't think your nationality (or rather, what nationality Spain thinks you are) affects your ability to draw a pension based on what you've already paid into Spanish social security. The only thing is things are much easier if you apply for residency as an Irish citizen.

I guess you can show both an Irish and a British passport when renewing the green card. Maybe even show them the original expired British passport if you've still kept it so they can check it against the passport number they have on file.
I don't think your nationality (or rather, what nationality Spain thinks you are) affects your ability to draw a pension based on what you've already paid into Spanish social security. The only thing is things are much easier if you apply for residency as an Irish citizen.
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The only time it might come into play is if you wanted to overstay your 90 days because unlike a UK passport an Irish one would not be stamped in and out.



