Plane crash in Madrid
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TVE have been saying that all afternoon, only 27 surivors
How must it feel to be on an aircraft, trying to take off, knowing that it failed the first time?
God that must be the worse thing, in hindsight if it ever happened to me id run up the plane saying I got a bomb in my bag, that way I dont think it would take off, In guess I would get banged up for it but safer.
I hope we can learn what has really happened very soon
How must it feel to be on an aircraft, trying to take off, knowing that it failed the first time?
God that must be the worse thing, in hindsight if it ever happened to me id run up the plane saying I got a bomb in my bag, that way I dont think it would take off, In guess I would get banged up for it but safer.
I hope we can learn what has really happened very soon
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Just one hour and half before, the same plane had to land once it had already taken off due to a breakdown, but half an hour later, the plane took off again and burned, crashed and broke into pieces
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My thoughts are with the victims families and friends and i hope any survivors make a speedy recovery
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Just hoping everyone's OK and not having to worry about loved one's, family, or friends. Nightmare stuff that happens occasionally. Thankfully it's a rare event!
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#23
This accident has remembered me to the accident of Los Rodeos, the worst accident in the whole history of the aviation (at least of the civil aviation): in 1977, in the airport of Los Rodeos (Tenerife) there was a collision between 2 airplanes 747 (for then, the biggest airplanes in that time): one of the KLM of Holland, and the other airplane of Panam, United States. Many factors intervened in this tragedy, as the fog. This accident produced many changes in the aviation. National Geographic made a video on The Rodeos. It is easy to find in youtube
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=qa4dr6...eature=related
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=qa4dr6...eature=related
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This accident has remembered me to the accident of Los Rodeos, the worst accident in the whole history of the aviation (at least of the civil aviation): in 1977, in the airport of Los Rodeos (Tenerife) there was a collision between 2 airplanes 747 (for then, the biggest airplanes in that time): one of the KLM of Holland, and the other airplane of Panam, United States. Many factors intervened in this tragedy, as the fog. This accident produced many changes in the aviation. National Geographic made a video on The Rodeos.
I had friends who were due to be on that flight but had changed at the last minute - still remember watching the footage from the time.
#25
Unfortunately, 146 people have died, only 26 people have survived and 11 of these 26 have been recognized.
Just one hour and half before, the same plane had to land once it had already taken off due to a breakdown, but half an hour later, the plane took off again and burned, crashed and broke into pieces
Just one hour and half before, the same plane had to land once it had already taken off due to a breakdown, but half an hour later, the plane took off again and burned, crashed and broke into pieces
My heart goes out to the relatives of all these victims, all accidents are sad, but the ones that could have been avoided even more so...
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It surely is a tragedy. My heart goes out to all the families and friends who will be affected by this dreadful accident.
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Only 19 survivors. Horrendous.
My thoughts are with their loved ones
My thoughts are with their loved ones
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Dreadful news 
Have been reading reports with growing horror since yesterday.
Such a tragic loss of life; and undoubtedly those few who have survived will have awful burn injuries
As everyone else, my thoughts are with the families of those killed and injured - and with those people who are helping them and caring for them.

Have been reading reports with growing horror since yesterday.
Such a tragic loss of life; and undoubtedly those few who have survived will have awful burn injuries

As everyone else, my thoughts are with the families of those killed and injured - and with those people who are helping them and caring for them.
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Looking at the footage of the Madrid crash, it would appear that the aircraft had attained V1, the speed on the runway at which the plane is committed to fly. Engine failure at this point would ultimately mean the aircraft taking off, making a circuit (or divert) then a landing. It's a highly practiced event - and all commercial airliners are designed to continue the take off, fly and land perfectly safely on a single engine.
The graphics on BBC World / Spanish channels show a possible fire / explosion from the left hand engine, yet the plane veering to the right, failing to attain and hold altitude. That would appear to suggest loss of thrust and/or vital control surfaces (rudder / elevator) and/or failure to attain V2, possibly as a result of catastrophic engine failure.
What is becoming very clear is that what happened at Madrid was absolutely not a 'normal' engine / system failure.
Our hearts go out to the families involved in this tragic accident.



